Retro Racer

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-01 07:25pm

Well, i thought I'd do something completely off the wall... I'm building a car! This is about the 4th attempt at a bodyshell, I've never built a car before so I spent a couple of hours last night making this basic shape and the simple wheels, and i thought I'd quickly colour in some windows and let you guys rip it to bits. It's just a rough body shape at the moment, I need to cut in proper windows, doors, panels and so forth, as well as add all the other bits and pieces that go to make up a normal car. My first major decision however is whether to go with retro stlye wheels as in the first couple of pics, or to go with newer, thinner rubber and a more modern wheel design. If I go retro then I'll have to make the car detailing more retro as well, so it's a major decision at this stage. The shape itself just came from 15 minutes of sketching, I think it's reminiscent of Aston Martins and maybe a couple of American muscle cars such as the newer Corvettes or the earlyier Mustangs. I wanted something that James Bonds American cousin woulddn't mind being seen driving, something with a bit of style but obviously well muscled. Anyway, this is what I'm going to try and persevere with, comments welcomed.

http://www.axeman3d.com/posts/car1.jpg
http://www.axeman3d.com/posts/car2.jpg
http://www.axeman3d.com/posts/car3.jpg
http://www.axeman3d.com/posts/car4.jpg

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-12-01 07:30pm

Other than the complete lack of doors, lights, etc, it looks pretty slick.

So... where do the machine guns pop out?

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-01 07:55pm

I LIKE IT!!!

Are you going for the Chevy corvette look or the Ford GT40 look?

EDIT: What happened in the second pic? BTW you might want to inline a small version of the pics and link em to the big ones like so:

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Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-12-01 09:40pm

Looks Italian.

Tranan · Post by **Tranan** » 2003-12-01 09:49pm

were can i get my hands on that car!!!

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-12-01 10:03pm

By touching yourself at night.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-12-01 10:51pm

here he comes, here comes speed racer, he's a demon on wheels...

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-02 03:12am

And here is the set of keys to your new car, 007.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-02 12:55pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:I LIKE IT!!!

Are you going for the Chevy corvette look or the Ford GT40 look?

EDIT: What happened in the second pic? BTW you might want to inline a small version of the pics and link em to the big ones like so:
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Yes, please inline a small version.

The Third Man · Post by **The Third Man** » 2003-12-02 02:48pm

Love the way you've done the rear-end, it's spot-on for a late 60s design. Therefore I think you should go down the retro route.

I have an issue with the front wheels though. Construction and Use Regs prohibit wheels that protrude beyond the bodywork like yours do - it wouldn't get type approved like that. I once had a RL modified motor that got me into trouble for infringing this one. All it takes to be legal BTW is a token bulging somewhere at the top - there's no regulation for how far around the wheel the coverage should go - although bear in mind the problem of dirt and stones getting sprayed onto the side bodywork.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-12-02 03:33pm

nice design. . . .only one question. how do you get in? i don't see any doors on it. . . .

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-02 06:27pm

Darth_Zod wrote:nice design. . . .only one question. how do you get in? i don't see any doors on it. . . .

Read the OP. He's not done yet. Therefore, don't comment on anything except the shape.

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-02 10:08pm

Thanks for the comments guys, always good to get some input on a design like this. I suppose everyone knows exactly what they like when it comes to cars, which makes it hard to design the bloody things and this is my first real attempt that looks anything like a car and that I might actually finish! I've played around with some ideas for a couple of hours and come up with this. It's not technically brilliant, I might have to go back to an earlier incarnation and redo some of the panels and details, but this is the direction it appears to be going. the door lines are a bit *meh*, and I now think the spoilers a bit tacky, but at the time it looked like it needed something at the back.

I did base the rear on the 68 Mustang as i remember it from bullet, but i thought I'd try and make it more modern with the cut-out for a rear window and make this a mid-engined beasty. I'll add a vented bonnet in the cut-out area so we know there's a beefy powerplant under there, and continue adding all the other details and styling cues. You'll also notice the GT-40 style lights, which i went for after trying square lights. Good God the square ones looked shit! I need to add the lens and suchlike of course, but you can get the idea from the covers. I have to admit that I'm not too worried about type regs, this is after all my flight of fancy and not a real vehicle. Comments again, are welcome...

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-12-02 10:11pm

It is good.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-12-02 10:47pm

I see GT 40...(Rear)

Corvette (Basic shape)

Porsche boxster (Headlights)

Viper (wheels)

'vette again (Cabin area)

'vette again....'78 stingray-like (the body skirting)

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-02 11:22pm

Another idea:

See the 'reverse' hood scoops on this GT40? That's actually a front wing in disguise. Your car is just *begging* for something like that as well as a slightly lengthened nose.

Note: Pic taken from this website about the 2004 Ford GT40. Yes, Ford is making the GT40 again (even in limited numbers)! W3w7!

EDIT: Hey Kenny, ever considered a career in concept car design?

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-03 06:16am

I am toying with the idea of bonnet scoops similar to the GT-40 and the Lotus Elise, but I'll have to try it out first to check the feasability of even doing it to this mesh. Right now it looks like a Marcos racing car, something I'd rather avoid if I could. I think maybe it's that spoiler that's causing it to look that way, I might have to redesign the rear end a little when I put in the louvred engine bay cover.

On a slightly different note, anyone got a good idea for a name for it, I'm stumped?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-12-03 07:19am

Paladin XR

the Kenco Wicked Chicken GT

Kenco Ferret TL (F....TL get it?

)

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-03 05:17pm

Chardok wrote:Paladin XR

Never heard of it. *starts worshiping the Google gods*

Chardok wrote:the Kenco Wicked Chicken GT

Wicked... Chicken?

Chardok wrote:Kenco Ferret TL (F....TL get it? )

LMAO!!!

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-04 10:58pm

Update:

Changed it to a red colour, since it will be turned into a full-on race car and everyone knows red ones go faster. I've added detail to the rear and front, changed the wheels for slightly more retro looking ones that aren't a rip-off from the Viper and gave it some exhausts. Still needs a lot of details, a race paint-job and a name. I tried bonnet vents like the elise and the GT-40 but it sucked hard. The more little details I add the more it becomes believable as it is, without drastic changes to it's shape. Once I've got it near complete I'll do an HDRI lit picture, to try and get as realistic as possible an image as I can.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2003-12-04 11:47pm

YAH, Ein! Wicked chicken!

Monty python wrote:Sir Robin the-not-quite-so-brave-as-Sir-Lancelot, who had nearly fought the Dragon of Angnor, who had nearly stood up to the vicious Chicken of Bristol, and who had personally wet himself at the Battle of Badon Hill.

I made up the Paladin XR (I was suggesting names for teh k00lx00r k4r!!

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-12-04 11:51pm

Einhander Sn0m4n wrote:Another idea:

http://www.car-data.com/photos.previews ... 0.30.2.jpg

See the 'reverse' hood scoops on this GT40? That's actually a front wing in disguise. Your car is just *begging* for something like that as well as a slightly lengthened nose.

Note: Pic taken from this website about the 2004 Ford GT40. Yes, Ford is making the GT40 again (even in limited numbers)! W3w7!

EDIT: Hey Kenny, ever considered a career in concept car design?

That is a cool car Einy

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-06 08:44pm

OK, final update before i finish all the detailing and race colouring, i wont bug you all with any more minor changes. This time I'm trying yet another set of wheels for size and I've addedthe headlights themselves, along with some vents under the chin and a few minor additions like the filler cap and bonnet louvres above the engine. Still to add wipers, rear lights and details, race colours, basic interior, etc etc... Notice I also tried out HDRI lighting and reflections to give it a little more realistic look this time, the last renders looked almost like cel-shaded pictures.

As for names, I think Paladin was used either in Midtown Madness or another game for the race-car design used in that. I dont think Paladin really suits this machine, so I await any further suggestions. I need to name it and then I'll need a logo to stick on the rear and bonnet badges in order to finish it.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-07 10:08pm

How about the name "Hurricane Blackguard"?

Kenny_10_Bellys · Post by **Kenny_10_Bellys** » 2003-12-08 05:37am

Hurricane has the right connotations, but 'blackguard'? Are you aware that's like calling it the Hurricane Bastard or Hurricane Traitor? I think not, but Hurricane I like...