Mormons about...

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2003-12-02 06:14pm

Men with shirts and ties with backpacks are about the neighborhood. They went to my neighbors yesterday, so I can only assume that I am next on the list.

They just opened a temple or something down the road.

What I need is the greatest religious smackdown that anyone can come up with using any sect of christianity, or any other monotheistic religion to debunk Mormonism.

Failing that, I will attempt to use the power of logic on these poor souls.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-12-02 06:21pm

Call them morons, when they go after you tell them to prove they aren't, by asking them to provide hard evidence that their god exists. Shoot down the bullshit they try to sell you with Occam's razor, logical debunking and of course lots and lots of guns.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2003-12-02 06:26pm

Hmm. I could bring in some people who could provide a theological argument against Mormonism. But I think that that's not what you're looking for. I suggest that you try telling them that you're not interested and leave it at that. That ever occur to you? There's no need to attack them.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2003-12-02 06:52pm

When they will start telling you about how this prophet guy sailed from Israel to the Americas and founded a colony here, ask them to provide evidence of the existance of said colony. Most likely this will break their standard recruitment routine, and the ywill just stand there, with their mouth open. Tell them to fuck off then.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-02 06:59pm

you don't get it. proof is irrelevant to fundies. The whole bedrock of their belief is having 'faith' in something that cannot possibly be proven.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-02 07:00pm

Falkenhayn wrote: What I need is the greatest religious smackdown that anyone can come up with using any sect of christianity, or any other monotheistic religion to debunk Mormonism.

Failing that, I will attempt to use the power of logic on these poor souls.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Nice job of being an ass, newb. You do realize that there ARE Christians and other people of religion on this board, don't you?

Heck, I'm not a Mormon, far from it, but just tell them you're not interested and shut the door, don't be an asshole about it.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-02 07:06pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:you don't get it. proof is irrelevant to fundies. The whole bedrock of their belief is having 'faith' in something that cannot possibly be proven.

Come now, is there a religion that doesn't involve faith or at least a measure of it? I find proof relevant, but I also have faith in my religious beliefs.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-02 07:27pm

Nathan F wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:you don't get it. proof is irrelevant to fundies. The whole bedrock of their belief is having 'faith' in something that cannot possibly be proven.
Come now, is there a religion that doesn't involve faith or at least a measure of it? I find proof relevant, but I also have faith in my religious beliefs.

i said fundies, you aren't a fundie.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-12-02 07:36pm

Nathan F wrote:
Falkenhayn wrote: What I need is the greatest religious smackdown that anyone can come up with using any sect of christianity, or any other monotheistic religion to debunk Mormonism.

Failing that, I will attempt to use the power of logic on these poor souls.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nice job of being an ass, newb. You do realize that there ARE Christians and other people of religion on this board, don't you?

And? He asked for religious arguments against mormon fundamentalists, not advice on how to torture random Christians.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-02 10:55pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:you don't get it. proof is irrelevant to fundies. The whole bedrock of their belief is having 'faith' in something that cannot possibly be proven.
Come now, is there a religion that doesn't involve faith or at least a measure of it? I find proof relevant, but I also have faith in my religious beliefs.
i said fundies, you aren't a fundie.

Alright, it's cool then.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-02 10:57pm

Colonel Olrik wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
Falkenhayn wrote: What I need is the greatest religious smackdown that anyone can come up with using any sect of christianity, or any other monotheistic religion to debunk Mormonism.

Failing that, I will attempt to use the power of logic on these poor souls.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nice job of being an ass, newb. You do realize that there ARE Christians and other people of religion on this board, don't you?
And? He asked for religious arguments against mormon fundamentalists, not advice on how to torture random Christians.

AAAAH, I see, I misread it. Guess I'm the one being the ass now. By bad, Falken.

Rye · Post by **Rye** » 2003-12-02 11:03pm

Hm, the ones that came to our house only knew the basic fundamentalism about intelligent design and crap, my brother and i quickly debated them away. Not been back since. Although the Jehovah's Witnesses sent a hot goth chick around to our house, i was powerless to resist, unfair tactics on their part i think.

Vertigo1 · Post by **Vertigo1** » 2003-12-03 12:21am

Don't bother using logic. It just won't work.

Besides, there are far more....inventive methods of messing with them.

When they show up, say out loud "Billy, quit humping the damn dog already!" and show up at the door with nothing but a smile.

(make sure your front door is secluded from the street so they can't use "indecent exposure" against you) Then when they tell you what they're there for, tell them that you don't have time and that you're too busy drawing pentagrams and having fantastic sex.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-12-03 12:41am

When Mormons came around these parts, my wife asked them to show her a picture of the Mormon Quorum of the Twelve. They did. She asked "why is every single one of them an old white male?" They had no answer. She told them to get back to her when they had one.

Johonebesus · Post by **Johonebesus** » 2003-12-03 03:42am

If you want a religious argument, point out that they are not Christian. Ask them if Jesus and the Father are the same being, and if Satan is Jesus' brother. If they answer "no, yes," then recite the Nicene Creed and explain that the Credo sums up most of the core beliefs of Christianity, as accepted by all the denominations, and if they reject the doctrine of the Trinity, they reject one of the defining doctrines of Christianity, so they aren't any more Christian than was Mohamed or Moon. That will make them real mad.

If you just want to play with them, make up your own religion and try to convert them. Make it no more out there than their own beliefs, but completely different, so they will be horrified and disgusted. That is much more fun than just offending them with a few dirty remarks.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-03 03:44am

Ask for a picture of the golden plates. Then tell them when they produce one, you'll consider joining.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-12-03 03:46am

Tell them you are a follower of Ivar Chu McDaniel, the great 24th century prophet who led his people to a higher plane of existance. Then attempt to fry their brains out using your superpowers. Works every time.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2003-12-03 03:47am

Alternatively: Tell them you're Jesus.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-12-03 04:03am

Knife wrote:Ask for a picture of the golden plates. Then tell them when they produce one, you'll consider joining.

Then watch as they produce giant foil-wrapped chocolate coins

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-03 12:01pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
Knife wrote:Ask for a picture of the golden plates. Then tell them when they produce one, you'll consider joining.
Then watch as they produce giant foil-wrapped chocolate coins

[Homer]Hmmmm, candy.[/Homer]

Falkenhayn · Post by **Falkenhayn** » 2003-12-04 04:43pm

Well as it turns out, they didn't come by. Maybe they have a list of hostile Catholics with my family's name on it.

But thanks for the suggestions, I'll keep them in mind in the future.

CrimsonRaine · Post by **CrimsonRaine** » 2003-12-04 08:45pm

Falkenhayn wrote:Men with shirts and ties with backpacks are about the neighborhood. They went to my neighbors yesterday, so I can only assume that I am next on the list.

They just opened a temple or something down the road.

What I need is the greatest religious smackdown that anyone can come up with using any sect of christianity, or any other monotheistic religion to debunk Mormonism.

Failing that, I will attempt to use the power of logic on these poor souls.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Have they said anything to you yet? Have they tried to convert you? If not, why do you insist on putting up this post? I'm not even Mormon and even I'm insulted.

Mormons can be very nice, and although I know they try to canvass, your post is completely single-minded and down-right rude. It's one thing to have a debate with someone who has different beliefs; it's another to be an absolute asshole.

Congradulations. You made yourself look like the latter.

Crimson Raine

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-12-04 09:07pm

I had some Jehova's Witnesses come to my house a few weeks ago in the early morning on Saturday. I had been visited by them before, so I did the best thing I new how to get rid of them permenetly and with little hassle. I stripped down to my bare ass and answered the door with a smile. They fled.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2003-12-04 09:28pm

Get a salami and beat them with it till they leave (no, not that salami)

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2003-12-04 09:39pm

The Kernel wrote:I had some Jehova's Witnesses come to my house a few weeks ago in the early morning on Saturday. I had been visited by them before, so I did the best thing I new how to get rid of them permenetly and with little hassle. I stripped down to my bare ass and answered the door with a smile. They fled.

That's a bit of an overreaction, don't you think? Besides, you don't know the Jehovah's Witnesses around here. That would make them more determined.

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