Stuart Mackey wrote:
Sill silly Knife.
Your first mistake was to assume that these type of protestors understand such logic.
Your seconed mistake was to assume that they can think.
Your right, wouldn't want reality to get in the way of a good protest.
They say, "the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of tyrants and patriots." I suppose it never occurred to them that they are the tyrants, not the patriots. Those weapons are not being used to fight some kind of tyranny; they are bringing them to an event where people are getting together to talk. -Mike Wong
But as far as board culture in general, I do think that young male overaggression is a contributing factor to the general atmosphere of hostility. It's not SOS and the Mess throwing hand grenades all over the forum- Red
Vympel wrote:IMO, a waste of time and money- billions of dollars and creative energy better spent elsewhere.
You wont be thinking that when the Red commie pinko liberal Chinese missile hordes come your way!
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Sill silly Knife.
Your first mistake was to assume that these type of protestors understand such logic.
Your seconed mistake was to assume that they can think.
Your right, wouldn't want reality to get in the way of a good protest.
Fuck no..it would deprive me of at least three minutes of endless entertainment
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
SDI is a fucking waste of money that would be better spent on building space satellites that can beam Star Trek: Voyager to all six billion people on Earth simultaneously.
Granted, that'd be a fucking waste of money, too, but at least not as severely a waste of money.
Uraniun235 wrote:SDI is a fucking waste of money that would be better spent on building space satellites that can beam Star Trek: Voyager to all six billion people on Earth simultaneously.
Granted, that'd be a fucking waste of money, too, but at least not as severely a waste of money.
You just wait untill you see the cost of mental heath spiral out of control as a result, you inhuman bastard.
Via money Europe could become political in five years" "... the current communities should be completed by a Finance Common Market which would lead us to European economic unity. Only then would ... the mutual commitments make it fairly easy to produce the political union which is the goal"
Clearly if we'd had BMD in 2001, we would have been able to stop the terrorists when they launched a series of slow-moving, predictable ballistic missiles into major American landmarks...
Oh, wait...
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Vympel wrote:IMO, a waste of time and money- billions of dollars and creative energy better spent elsewhere.
Does it spend money that could be more profitably spent elsewhere? Yes, there are any number of things that it could be better employed in.
Is it a waste? No, given states like North Korea and Iran it's something we might well need down the road. As nukes and long range ballistic missles spread to progressively more unstable countries the chances that some psycho deciding to take world down with him grow. It's for circumstances like that we'd need it and which it's able enough.
Vympel wrote:IMO, a waste of time and money- billions of dollars and creative energy better spent elsewhere.
Does it spend money that could be more profitably spent elsewhere? Yes, there are any number of things that it could be better employed in.
Is it a waste? No, given states like North Korea and Iran it's something we might well need down the road. As nukes and long range ballistic missles spread to progressively more unstable countries the chances that some psycho deciding to take world down with him grow. It's for circumstances like that we'd need it and which it's able enough.
But how plausible is .... this scenario anyway? I gather its even more unlikely than the orginal scenario.
There's tons of things that money could be better used on. Better pay for intelligence anaylsts and Arabic translators, creating and supporting Western friendly media and religious cliques, the usual cloak and dagger stuff than this "shield" that's postulated use is being guarded against by the two other twin shields of US military power and non-profilteration.
Sure, ABM will ensure America is relatively secure against enemy ballistic missiles, but fuck! Isn't there more relevent threats, that desperately need more resources and uses technology that isn't controversial?
Let him land on any Lyran world to taste firsthand the wrath of peace loving people thwarted by the myopic greed of a few miserly old farts- Katrina Steiner
weemadando wrote:
Would the US use any interceptors to help us? Or would all of them go to minimising damage over there?
I only ask, because, well - it seems like a fuck in the arse if we put time and effort into working with the US to build this thing and we never get any assistance from it?
The US couldn't do so regardless as to weather or not it wanted to, the interceptors wouldn't have the reach or anything like the cross range capability needed for the job. In ordered to defend Australia there would need to be interceptor missiles based there, which in turn would be useless for protecting the US. But anyway I don't think Australia is actually spending a dime on the US program, the US is just asking if it can use its existing satellite communications equipment for somthing else.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
HemlockGrey wrote:Don't we have lasers now? Has no one ever played Missle Command? We should send up satillites with lasers and use them to blow up missiles!
Satellite lasers are part of distant US plans for BDM. But there many years off.
"This cult of special forces is as sensible as to form a Royal Corps of Tree Climbers and say that no soldier who does not wear its green hat with a bunch of oak leaves stuck in it should be expected to climb a tree"
— Field Marshal William Slim 1956
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
Iceberg wrote:Clearly if we'd had BMD in 2001, we would have been able to stop the terrorists when they launched a series of slow-moving, predictable ballistic missiles into major American landmarks...
Oh, wait...
No, that's what SOCOM is for. I don't see any more terrorist attacks
since W unleashed SOCOM onto the Islamofascists.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
No, that's what SOCOM is for. I don't see any more terrorist attacks
since W unleashed SOCOM onto the Islamofascists.
SOCOM ain't gonna do shit since some nut can hijack a plane with cardboard cutters at any time. All thanks to the PC mongruls who refuse to arm pilots
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
Hamel wrote:
SOCOM ain't gonna do shit since some nut can hijack a plane with cardboard cutters at any time.
SOCOM ensures that they will end up dead in some shithole in the turd
world long before they get out of the planning phase and into the
"hijack aircraft" phase.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
SOCOM ensures that they will end up dead in some shithole in the turd
world long before they get out of the planning phase and into the
"hijack aircraft" phase.
That's not going to cover all of them, Sheparooni
"Right now we can tell you a report was filed by the family of a 12 year old boy yesterday afternoon alleging Mr. Michael Jackson of criminal activity. A search warrant has been filed and that search is currently taking place. Mr. Jackson has not been charged with any crime. We cannot specifically address the content of the police report as it is confidential information at the present time, however, we can confirm that Mr. Jackson forced the boy to listen to the Howard Stern show and watch the movie Private Parts over and over again."
No, that's what SOCOM is for. I don't see any more terrorist attacks
since W unleashed SOCOM onto the Islamofascists.
SOCOM ain't gonna do shit since some nut can hijack a plane with cardboard cutters at any time. All thanks to the PC mongruls who refuse to arm pilots
Really we should have all passengers armed. Make it a mandatory requirement. You think you'd have any hijackings if they knew everyone was armed? Didn't think so.
Hamel wrote:
SOCOM ain't gonna do shit since some nut can hijack a plane with cardboard cutters at any time.
SOCOM ensures that they will end up dead in some shithole in the turd
world long before they get out of the planning phase and into the
"hijack aircraft" phase.
The point of my statement flies over Shep's head and makes a nice whooshing noise.
"Carriers dispense fighters, which dispense assbeatings." - White Haven
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If only one rock and roll song echoes into tomorrow
There won't be anything to keep you from the distant morning glow.
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Iceberg wrote:
The point of my statement flies over Shep's head and makes a nice whooshing noise.
You conviently forget that Mr Kim Dong Small is developing ever long
ranged ICBMs, and is close to having nukes. And he is a raving looney.
Want to pit the costs of NMD compared to rebuilding a west coast city
after Kim Dong Small nukes it?
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
Course, to Iceberg, a ICBM is worthless because you can't selectively
eliminate someone with it. There's a reason we have large conventional
forces, to allow us to have a choice between "Do Nothing" and "Nuke them
into glowing ash piles". Same thing with NMD, it gives us an option to
destroy an incoming ICBM, other than "do Nothing", and "Execute full SIOP
warplan and nuke the bastards into glowing dust in return."
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
Iceberg wrote:
The point of my statement flies over Shep's head and makes a nice whooshing noise.
You conviently forget that Mr Kim Dong Small is developing ever long
ranged ICBMs, and is close to having nukes. And he is a raving looney.
Want to pit the costs of NMD compared to rebuilding a west coast city
after Kim Dong Small nukes it?
I doubt he's enough of a raving loony to think that Los Angeles is a fair trade for us turning South Korea into an island free of charge (Godzilla awakening also free of charge). And Bush was pushing NMD before he knew that KJI was developing nuclear missiles, while he was busy running Operation Ignore on the antiterrorism plan handed to him by the outgoing Clinton Administration.
"Carriers dispense fighters, which dispense assbeatings." - White Haven
| Hyperactive Gundam Pilot of MM | GALE | ASVS | Cleaners | Kibologist (beable) | DFB |
If only one rock and roll song echoes into tomorrow
There won't be anything to keep you from the distant morning glow.
I'm not a man. I just portrayed one for 15 years.
And australia buying into the US NMD program to
counter the South East Asian region's nuclear arms
buildup in the Indo-Pakistan region would be cheaper
and more politically acceptable to aussie pols than setting
up an Aussie Hanford and cranking out A-Bombs enmasse.
"If scientists and inventors who develop disease cures and useful technologies don't get lifetime royalties, I'd like to know what fucking rationale you have for some guy getting lifetime royalties for writing an episode of Full House." - Mike Wong
"The present air situation in the Pacific is entirely the result of fighting a fifth rate air power." - U.S. Navy Memo - 24 July 1944
Iceberg wrote:
The point of my statement flies over Shep's head and makes a nice whooshing noise.
You conviently forget that Mr Kim Dong Small is developing ever long
ranged ICBMs, and is close to having nukes. And he is a raving looney.
Want to pit the costs of NMD compared to rebuilding a west coast city
after Kim Dong Small nukes it?
1) They have done exactly how many successful ICBM tests?
2) Ever hear of a little thing called MAD? Well in this case, it isn't even MAD. It's simply AD, Assured Destruction. They may be Totalitarian, but that just means that they want to hang onto their power more then ever, not throw it away by commiting suicide. Jesus Shep, these people are dictators, not religious fundementalists.
On a related note; I was slightly perturbed by the hyper-positive, best-case-scenario article on the Airborne Laser project in Combat Aircraft, where a AL-1 shoots down a North Korean IRBM - and the warhead survives the explosion, drops to earth, detonates and wipes out a section of the Demilitarized Zone.
Er, okay.
"Oh, a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-My-Own-Grandpa! Let's get the hell out of here already! Screw history!" - Professor Farnsworth
