Gore endorses Dean

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-12-09 01:42pm

It's too early yet to say "President Dean," but methinks we just got an important step closer.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-12-09 01:54pm

President of what???? The University of Vermont??

I'll take that bet anytime......

This is Gore's way of getting back at the Clintons.....

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-09 02:15pm

Poor Joe. He's probably pretty pissed and he should be. Thats fucked up, but thats politics. If Lieberman had any supporters, Dean would have lost them because of Gore.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 02:17pm

theski wrote:President of what???? The University of Vermont??

I'll take that bet anytime......

This is Gore's way of getting back at the Clintons.....

LMFAO!

Seriously though we are watching a split in the DNC right now. The Dean/Pelosi/Gore/Fat Bastard (ted kennedy) 'progressive' hard left liberals are putting a lot of distance between themselves and the more moderate bloc of Clinton/Gephardt/Wes Clark. Gore Has completely abandoned the his moderate roots (the DLC) and is now blatantly sucking Dean's cock in the hopes of getting a job in a potential McGove...er.. Dean administration.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2003-12-09 02:30pm

Gore is endorsing Dean because he's the only Dem who has a shot at beating Bush. Endorsing Lieberman would have been utterly pointless.

Worlds Spanner · Post by **Worlds Spanner** » 2003-12-09 02:32pm

And Lieberman sucks anyway.

He's more conservative than Bush on some policy issues, he's the standard bearer of the anti-video game crusade, and he was the first Democrat to stand up with the Republicans and condemn (Our Lord and Savior) Bill Clinton.

For that last crime alone he should be thrown out of the party.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-09 02:33pm

Iceberg wrote:It's too early yet to say "President Dean," but methinks we just got an important step closer.

Only if he's running for class president. Gore has got to be one of the singularly dullest men alive today. The symbolism is a minor benefit until people remember who the hell Gore is.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-09 02:34pm

GrandAdmiralPrawn wrote:Gore is endorsing Dean because he's the only Dem who has a shot at beating Bush. Endorsing Lieberman would have been utterly pointless.

True, but it's still fucked up. I don't think your going to see Joe supporting jack shit of Dean nor any pet projects of Gore in the near future.

Sorry, but it's as fucked up as when Bob Dole said he was supporting Bush instead of his wife. Sometimes, especially when your really not part of the ratrace any more like Gore and Dole, it's better to shut the fuck up.

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-12-09 02:35pm

By abandoning what Clinton proved beyond a shadow of a doubt TWICE that the Dems can only win running in the center, they have now handed W the presidency. Go Democrats, way to prove how utterly retarded the leadership is.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 02:48pm

It's more than that Stravo. Systemicly the nomination process is flawed. It is set up so that only the most liberal or conservative of the respective party candidates wins the nomination. Clinton was merely an anomoly. Chalk it up to even a broken clock being right twice a day. Other than Clinton, Look at the democratic nominees for the past 30 years: Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, McGovern.... at the time these men were Presidential nominees they were just this side of Martin Sheen on the political compass. Then bam! They put a moderate (Clinton) on the ticket, and they get their first 2 term president since Harry fucking Truman! You'd think they'd make the connection.

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-12-09 02:56pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Iceberg wrote:It's too early yet to say "President Dean," but methinks we just got an important step closer.
Only if he's running for class president. Gore has got to be one of the singularly dullest men alive today. The symbolism is a minor benefit until people remember who the hell Gore is.

The guy who won the popular vote in the last presidential election, you mean?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 02:58pm

Durandal wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Iceberg wrote:It's too early yet to say "President Dean," but methinks we just got an important step closer.
Only if he's running for class president. Gore has got to be one of the singularly dullest men alive today. The symbolism is a minor benefit until people remember who the hell Gore is.
The guy who won the popular vote in the last presidential election, you mean?

yeah, the guy who won on peace and prosperity and couldn't win his own home state

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-12-09 02:59pm

I'm getting tired of this "Gore won the popular vote nonsense." You can't possibly make that argument given his tiny statistical margin of victory, not when as estimated 5 percent of the vote is fraudulent.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2003-12-09 03:03pm

Durran Korr wrote:I'm getting tired of this "Gore won the popular vote nonsense." You can't possibly make that argument given his tiny statistical margin of victory, not when as estimated 5 percent of the vote is fraudulent.

That and I don't think I have ever read/heard the total number after all of the abenstee ballots. Everytime you see the # its the one from election night/week. There was something akin to a million AB in California alone.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-09 03:09pm

Durandal wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Iceberg wrote:It's too early yet to say "President Dean," but methinks we just got an important step closer.
Only if he's running for class president. Gore has got to be one of the singularly dullest men alive today. The symbolism is a minor benefit until people remember who the hell Gore is.
The guy who won the popular vote in the last presidential election, you mean?

You in the election with one of the lowest voter turn-out rates in the last century?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-12-09 03:30pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:It's more than that Stravo. Systemicly the nomination process is flawed. It is set up so that only the most liberal or conservative of the respective party candidates wins the nomination.

If this were true, why isn't Dennis Kucinich winning right now? He's certainly FAR more liberal than Howard Dean (hint: Kucinich is significantly left of Paul Wellstone).

Clinton was merely an anomoly. Chalk it up to even a broken clock being right twice a day. Other than Clinton, Look at the democratic nominees for the past 30 years: Gore, Dukakis, Mondale, Carter, McGovern.... at the time these men were Presidential nominees they were just this side of Martin Sheen on the political compass.

Carter WON, BTW. He lost in 1980 for issues not relating to left/right political scales (hint: see the Iran hostage situation, which Reagan heavily exploited for his own political gain), and also because Reagan was - credit IS due here - a very charismatic individual. Bush does not share Reagan's charisma.

Then bam! They put a moderate (Clinton) on the ticket, and they get their first 2 term president since Harry fucking Truman! You'd think they'd make the connection.

Funny, the Clinton faction's been steadily losing seats for the last decade.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-12-09 04:16pm

Iceberg wrote:

If this were true, why isn't Dennis Kucinich winning right now? He's certainly FAR more liberal than Howard Dean (hint: Kucinich is significantly left of Paul Wellstone).

Its because the Most of the Democrats can see what a wack-job Kucinich is...

and

Funny, the Clinton faction's been steadily losing seats for the last decade.

Clinton won the election by being a Centrist... That does not work as well in Senate and House races.... That is more of a local flavor..

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-12-09 04:32pm

Stormbringer wrote:You in the election with one of the lowest voter turn-out rates in the last century?

If Gore hadn't waited until October to try to distinguish himself from Bush, he might have won the electoral vote as well as the popular vote.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2003-12-09 04:37pm

Iceberg wrote:

If Gore hadn't waited until October to try to distinguish himself from Bush, he might have won the electoral vote as well as the popular vote.

Was that before or after Naomi told him to wear the Brown sweater to look more Macho for the "Soccer Moms"??

Stravo · Post by **Stravo** » 2003-12-09 04:42pm

Iceberg wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:You in the election with one of the lowest voter turn-out rates in the last century?
If Gore hadn't waited until October to try to distinguish himself from Bush, he might have won the electoral vote as well as the popular vote.

Can I borrow your palantir?

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 04:42pm

Iceberg wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:You in the election with one of the lowest voter turn-out rates in the last century?
If Gore hadn't waited until October to try to distinguish himself from Bush, he might have won the electoral vote as well as the popular vote.

puh-lease. Gore had to be told how to distinguish himself. How many times did he 'reinvent himself'?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2003-12-09 04:58pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:yeah, the guy who won on peace and prosperity and couldn't win his own home state

Irrelevant. Roughly half of those who voted voted for Gore. Not everyone hates him, far from it. His endorsement does mean something for Dean.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-12-09 05:38pm

I predict we're going to witness shitslinging from the right about how this endorsement is going to make the dems run off the left-wing cliff

Oh wait a second, ALREADY FUCKING HAPPENED

No tears for Lieberman, btw

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-09 10:49pm

Iceberg wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:You in the election with one of the lowest voter turn-out rates in the last century?
If Gore hadn't waited until October to try to distinguish himself from Bush, he might have won the electoral vote as well as the popular vote.

Now if he just had a personality he might have generated some appeal beyond the party faithful. As it was none of the transplants took and he lost.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-12-09 10:50pm

The complete dumbfuck who needs Rove to change his diapers or the guy with no personality

Ahhh, the choices one makes in life

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