RIAA spreading the love!

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 08:44am

http://www.nj.com/news/ledger/jersey/in ... 367240.xml

if you want to force the kid to do community service, or some other type of punishment, i can almost understand that. But to financially ruin a family for the actions of a kid.....that's just disgraceful.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2003-12-09 08:54am

We're talking about people who have surgically excised their sense of shame. Anything is acceptable to the RIAA in the name of hanging onto their monopolistic status just a little while longer - it doesn't matter whose lives they ruin as long as they're making money.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2003-12-09 09:58am

Fuck this. I don't download music illegally; I can get all the MP3s I want from my CDs or from the artists themselves. But you know what? I've still had enough of this shit. If I get them as gifts, fine, but I've bought my last CD. Music on average has been going down the shitter anyway.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-12-09 10:15am

Utter fucktard bullshit!

"How can you blame a 13-year-old child for doing something they didn't know was illegal?"

Bollocks! There's no way you can tell me she never heard of Napster!! For fucks sake! She's 13, she's old enough to read isn't she?! There's no way she didn't know downloading music was illegal.

It's not fair

The mum sounds about as old as the kid is.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 10:27am

Dorsk 81 wrote:Utter fucktard bullshit!

"How can you blame a 13-year-old child for doing something they didn't know was illegal?"
Bollocks! There's no way you can tell me she never heard of Napster!! For fucks sake! She's 13, she's old enough to read isn't she?! There's no way she didn't know downloading music was illegal.

It's not fair
The mum sounds about as old as the kid is.

so you feel it is acceptable for a strong-arm front for a group of multinational corporations to bankrupt a family because of a minor tort committed by a minor? Because that is what this is about.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-09 10:29am

Another day, another case of the RIAA using the legal system as a metaphorical Ethereal Scythe to cut down the defenseless. It's bad enough the Legal System is already a weapon forged of pure evil as it is...

Lord Sauron and his One Ring have nothing on the RIAA and their lawyers. Nothing at all!

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-12-09 10:34am

If i was a conspiracy theorist i`d say the RIAA are making music accessible for download just to sue the little guy.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2003-12-09 11:32am

Ha,

I can only say "the more brutal your methodes, the more they are against you". the RIAA, which can fuck my knee (love it to be outside of thier area of power) not realizes, that such behaviour only accelerates the unwillingness to buy music.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-09 11:33am

Montcalm wrote:If i was a conspiracy theorist i`d say the RIAA are making music accessible for download just to sue the little guy.

And if I wasn't an American programmed to discredit every conspiracy theory I hear no matter how plausible and well-supported by evidence, I'd agree.

<-CRACK!->

Oh wait, That was just the sound of me breaking my programming! Besides, where are all these _REALLY_ good DVD rips of movies coming from? Ah yes, MPAA Insiders!

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-12-09 11:50am

Shit like this is why I don't listin to vocal music. Well, that and the fact that most of it sucks mucho donky balls anyway. It's just soundtracks for me.

Here's an appropreate quote.

"The more you tighten your grip Tarkin, the more star systems will slip through your fingers."

If you don't know what movie that's from, you don't belong on this board.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-09 11:55am

And the RIAA continues to piss off the American populace. And they wonder why sales are slipping...morons.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2003-12-09 12:18pm

Stealing the music is starting to look like the correct moral choice because funding these prats and their jack booted lawyers is certainly morally indefensible.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 12:35pm

the last time i bought CD's was a year ago when i purchased 3: Tenatious D, a Miles Davis and John Coltraine disc, and the remasterd Freddie Hubbard Red Clay LP. Two of those were classics and the Tenatious D disc was IMHO one of the few albums to come on the market in the last few years that was worth the price. I won't buy another single album until the RIAA cuts the shit.

RedImperator · Post by **RedImperator** » 2003-12-09 12:44pm

I'm starting to seriously think about how effective a grassroots level general boycott of the RIAA would be--actually I know it would be devestating, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to organize.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-12-09 12:57pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Dorsk 81 wrote:Utter fucktard bullshit!

"How can you blame a 13-year-old child for doing something they didn't know was illegal?"
Bollocks! There's no way you can tell me she never heard of Napster!! For fucks sake! She's 13, she's old enough to read isn't she?! There's no way she didn't know downloading music was illegal.

It's not fair
The mum sounds about as old as the kid is.
so you feel it is acceptable for a strong-arm front for a group of multinational corporations to bankrupt a family because of a minor tort committed by a minor? Because that is what this is about.

No! Dear God no!
But no one's guna beleive she didn't know it was ilegal, I said to Ein on msn earlier that it was fucked up that they go for a family that couldn't even afford a lawyer and therefore removing pretty much any chance of finding a possible loop hole or something.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2003-12-09 01:55pm

Annoyingly, Academy Award movie screeners typically are of higher quality than the commercial release.

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2003-12-09 02:00pm

RedImperator wrote:I'm starting to seriously think about how effective a grassroots level general boycott of the RIAA would be--actually I know it would be devestating, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to organize.

I'd be one of the first to join, I'll say that now.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2003-12-09 02:06pm

Nathan F wrote:
RedImperator wrote:I'm starting to seriously think about how effective a grassroots level general boycott of the RIAA would be--actually I know it would be devestating, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to organize.
I'd be one of the first to join, I'll say that now.

i'm already boycotting. just show me where to sign.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-12-09 05:28pm

Thank god i live in England where i can stick 2 fingers up at the RIAA!

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-12-09 05:48pm

I haven't bought a CD since Toxicity, but I really do want that Jack Black Album.

Einhander Sn0m4n · Post by **Einhander Sn0m4n** » 2003-12-09 06:08pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Nathan F wrote:
RedImperator wrote:I'm starting to seriously think about how effective a grassroots level general boycott of the RIAA would be--actually I know it would be devestating, but I'm wondering how difficult it would be to organize.
I'd be one of the first to join, I'll say that now.
i'm already boycotting. just show me where to sign.

I never was not boycotting.

With only one exception: I got the Presidents of the United States of America tape for their song "Peaches".

Everything else?

Macross · Post by **Macross** » 2003-12-09 06:14pm

Anyone remember when the RIAA used to make money by selling records instead of sueing people?

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-12-09 06:20pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:the last time i bought CD's was a year ago when i purchased 3: Tenatious D, a Miles Davis and John Coltraine disc, and the remasterd Freddie Hubbard Red Clay LP. Two of those were classics and the Tenatious D disc was IMHO one of the few albums to come on the market in the last few years that was worth the price. I won't buy another single album until the RIAA cuts the shit.

Why should they stop what they're doing? It's quite clearly working. Thanks to everybody who does buy CDs, they have pockets that are far deeper than anybody they've chosen to sue. Worse, the government has done everything in it's power to help them (DMCA anyone?) And on top of that, you've got computer companies falling all over themselves to feed the copyright cartel by supplying services such as iTunes (and the ten or fifteen clones launching next year) which infects computers with DRM and funnels the money back to the RIAA.

People are still going to buy CDs, unfortunately. Worse, they're being acclimated to DRM, which will lock them into "legitimate" use of digital multimedia in the future (among all the things they don't tell you about.) As much as us tech-savvy digital libertarians hate it, let's face it, the RIAA is going about this ham-fisted approach because they already know they've won.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2003-12-09 06:34pm

Macross wrote:Anyone remember when the RIAA used to make money by selling records instead of sueing people?

They're still seling records. Just not as many because they lack appeal, cost too much, and only have one or two good songs on them, so they've decided to use people downloading music as a scapegoat.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-12-09 07:04pm

They didn't even manage to sue someone who was pirating good music.