Tarot, Palms, Other Clairvoyancies (& Homosexuality?)

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 08:43am

1st, how the hell are you gonna sue me if youre dead?

Second, accuracy of the future depends on with what willingness you have to keep your current lifestyle.

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2002-10-07 08:48am

verilon wrote:1st, how the hell are you gonna sue me if youre dead?

read my new sig

Second, accuracy of the future depends on with what willingness you have to keep your current lifestyle.

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Sorry, but I don't buy that. My life style is constantly changing. I cannot say what my life will be in the next month. But I will not consciously change it. It will be the result of things happening to me, and not only of situations that I provoke.

And those are what you should predict. For example, will I meet a nice girl and start dating her next week?

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 08:50am

Colonel Olrik wrote:And those are what you should predict. For example, will I meet a nice girl and start dating her next week?

Had you told me I would be going out with my current girlfriend anywhere up to 1 hours before we started going out I would have laughed at you.

"Clouded the future is..."

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 08:51am

Colonel Olrik wrote:
verilon wrote:1st, how the hell are you gonna sue me if youre dead?
read my new sig
Second, accuracy of the future depends on with what willingness you have to keep your current lifestyle.
Sorry, but I don't buy that. My life style is constantly changing. I cannot say what my life will be in the next month. But I will not consciously change it. It will be the result of things happening to me, and not only of situations that I provoke.

And those are what you should predict. For example, will I meet a nice girl and start dating her next week?

I'm not willing to say next week. I can't say anything about you at all. I am in a good "spot," but I really can't feel anything from you. I said before, though, it comes and goes.

But I would be willing to give you a reading, if you could get down here.

Also, the change is part of your lifestyle. My life is ENCOMPASSED by change, and yes, I do complain, but you know what? It is part of who I am. Get over it. You keep with your path, and you will get the future in the reading. Of course, you could do one thing in one day that will affect things, and you could get a completely new reading the next day. But I won't do that, it drains my physical energy.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 08:52am

Do you need to be face to face for a reading or could you throw me a five card horse-shoe and PM me the results?

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:05am

ftf is, for the most part, the only way to do a true Tarot reading. I am willing to try an online one, but I have to find soemwhere with enough space to be able to do it. And fyi, its called an "ellipse," not a horseshoe.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:09am

Sure... Whats the other common one, the Tree? Or something like that?

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:11am

Tree of Life, Celtic Cross, Seven-Card Ellipse, Chakra Reading, Four Seasons, this pyramid layout I do, 1,3,5 card readings (they have no special names), 12 houses...could go on and on, but I don't know that many layouts.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:14am

Tree of life, bingo...

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:15am

What was your pont, exactly...?

+1 post count

+1 evil count

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:17am

So do you want to attempt a "remote" 5 card ellipse, as it is the most "simple" of the patterns and as such, most likely to be the easiest to do "remotely"..

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:19am

actually, one card would be easiest to do remotely, but I have no idea what you look like, plus I never shuffle the cards before a reading...I always have the readee (word? well, if not, it is now!) shuffle,s o that is their energy, not mine...plus, I don't have my cards with me. Either deck. I could get my Dragon Tarot and try later, but I would rather it be thru AIM, because I know we are interacting.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-07 09:34am

verilon, they are only skeptic because it's something they can't see. If you notice, these are the same logics they use against the Christians.

I had a friend who is psychic. He could read for everyone, but himself. He could also sense ghosts.

Even I have a bit of psychic in me. I can read the tarot and am also sensitive to spectral beings. There are a lot of things science can't explain. There are a lot of things that aren't logical. There are many skeptics in this world.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:38am

Cool. My AIM title is listed. I'm online utterly randomly, so...

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-07 09:41am

And I have a Dragon in my Garage

That is the classic example of why Skeptics, Are well Skeptics

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-07 09:43am

Kelly Antilles wrote:Even I have a bit of psychic in me. I can read the tarot and am also sensitive to spectral beings. There are a lot of things science can't explain. There are a lot of things that aren't logical. There are many skeptics in this world.

Psychic ability...well, meh. But ghosts are neat. I'm actually a folklore collector (hobby). I collect ghost stories from around the globe. I always love a good one. I don't *believe* in ghosts, but I damn well like a good story, and hanging out in haunted places is better than the BEST horror movie out there.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-07 09:44am

I never said there was anything wrong with being a Skeptic. I was merely trying to calm verilon down a bit. I'm skeptic about many things, but I have first-hand been present when several odd things have happened.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:46am

Kelly Antilles wrote:verilon, they are only skeptic because it's something they can't see. If you notice, these are the same logics they use against the Christians.

I had a friend who is psychic. He could read for everyone, but himself. He could also sense ghosts.

Even I have a bit of psychic in me. I can read the tarot and am also sensitive to spectral beings. There are a lot of things science can't explain. There are a lot of things that aren't logical. There are many skeptics in this world.

Ghosts/spirits I do believe in. Why? Because I myself have seen some shit I really would rather not have and that cannot be easily explained. This ranges from simple foot-steps up and down an empty hallway, weird figures moving, lights, stereos and the rest switching on and off and manipulating volume etc and my personal favourite the goddamn voices and other "people" noises.

I remember something about how ghosts are actually beings that exist in a dimension that we cannot conventionally sense (4th or 5th dimension etc) but do have an effect on our environment.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:47am

Kelly: Exactly. I have my own ghosts. And I can read almost everyone. Except some skeptics that have block programmed into them, and some people that purposely block off certain parts of themselves.

Question: What deck(s) do you use? Also, What do you mean by "spectral beings"? Spirits?

Bean: You may very well have a dragon in your garage. It's called a guardian. The Dragon is my Guardian. Please don't make fun of this. Also, I feel soemthing not-so-good about you. (Like I said, this comes and goes). All I know is that someone you know (or maybe yourself) will get physically hurt, but not incredibly badly, but debilitating, within the next year.

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:49am

weemadando wrote:
Ghosts/spirits I do believe in. Why? Because I myself have seen some shit I really would rather not have and that cannot be easily explained. This ranges from simple foot-steps up and down an empty hallway, weird figures moving, lights, stereos and the rest switching on and off and manipulating volume etc and my personal favourite the goddamn voices and other "people" noises.

I remember something about how ghosts are actually beings that exist in a dimension that we cannot conventionally sense (4th or 5th dimension etc) but do have an effect on our environment.

Ghosts are supernatural. Tarot is, believe it or not, supernatural. Your logic doesn't work.

Post by **weemadando** » 2002-10-07 09:53am

The legitimacy of the tarot and other "psychic arts" I am slightly dubious of due to the amount of hacks and other morons that attempt to scam through them.

The fact that I have directly experienced the "supernatural phenomena" of ghosts leads me to believe that indeed, these are legitimate.

That I have encountered so many hacks and morons makes me skeptical re: some forms of "psychic interpretation".

And, no offense, but who's to say that the tarot are indeed a legitimate interpretation of these "psychic energies"?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-07 09:57am

Its a classic saying made all the more Ironic by both my lack of garage and Lifestyle

As for physicly debelitation I guess I could trip and break my leg on the grass on the way to the car
Or prehaps get in a car crash
But trust me, I'm gonna win anything short of a Semi

Oh and I happen to Telecomute

I guess that means it will have to be a natural disastor,

Hmm I don't live in a tornado likley place, nor near the sea, nor anyplace likley to have a rock-slide or what-not

Hmmm Deleblitating

Its gonna be pretty damn hard for anything like that to happen
But trust me Verilon you'll be the second person to know if I do happen to get delbiltatingly injuryed

Post by **haas mark** » 2002-10-07 09:58am

The people that know what they're doing....ie, myself and Kelly. You know, "experiencing" the "hacks" may deprive you of your belief of the Tarot, but there are always the ones that can really do it. I have even surprised myself with the accuracy, sometimes. So don't give me any bullshit about legitimacy. If/when you experience a real Tarot reader, you will be surprised. I may be on later today, but not for another good 6 hrs.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-07 09:59am

weemadando wrote:Ghosts/spirits I do believe in. Why? Because I myself have seen some shit I really would rather not have and that cannot be easily explained.

Hah. I watch that 'world's scariest places' show on YTV here in Canada, where they pitch a family into a haunted place at night and watch them freak out. It's hilarious.

Since I don't believe in ghosts, it's easier to get scared, then come out of it the next morning and laugh about it. Just develop the mindset that whatever it is, it's not hurting you, just spooking you. Treat it objectively. Pry. You'll find yourself a lot less terrified. I've never seen any 'ghosts', and I'm not 'attuned', but I've seen things move for no explicable reason, and I find it cool each time.

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2002-10-07 10:01am

Mr Bean wrote:I guess that means it will have to be a natural disastor,

Hmm I don't live in a tornado likley place, nor near the sea, nor anyplace likley to have a rock-slide or what-not

Which is good, Bean! I cannot comprehend the stupidity of people who repeatedly build homes in flood plains, tornado alleys, volcanos and fault lines, and then act all indignant when the government hems and haws about giving them money to rebuild.