Saddam captured, Bin Ladin????

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-12-15 01:57am

Now that American soldiers have finally captured a nasty little shit who was such a major strategic threat to the USA, where is the man who ordered the killing of so many innocent people on the 11th of September?

So nice to see that America has it priorities right.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-12-15 02:16am

Large armies are near useless for hunting down a man who could be any ware in the world. But clearly that concept is too complex for you.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-12-15 02:35am

Sea Skimmer wrote:Large armies are near useless for hunting down a man who could be any ware in the world. But clearly that concept is too complex for you.

And a heathy fuck you to. nice strawman btw, large armies have nothing to do with what I said.
America dirverts its resources from hunting someone who has managed to perform the largest single terrorist attack in history, to run off on a wild goose chase against a man and a nation who is less of a threat than a camel with a hangover. As I said, nice to see that America has its priorities right.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-12-15 02:45am

Could the CIA be of any use here?

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-12-15 02:48am

Gandalf wrote:Could the CIA be of any use here?

One would think so, but hey, they were too busy finding Saddam perhaps?..
Not that I am not happy they got the guy..one less genocidal maniac has to be a good thing.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-12-15 03:16am

Stuart Mackey wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Large armies are near useless for hunting down a man who could be any ware in the world. But clearly that concept is too complex for you.
And a heathy fuck you to. nice strawman btw, large armies have nothing to do with what I said.
America dirverts its resources from hunting someone who has managed to perform the largest single terrorist attack in history, to run off on a wild goose chase against a man and a nation who is less of a threat than a camel with a hangover. As I said, nice to see that America has its priorities right.

Okay enough with the bullshit. You have absolutely no idea how resources are being used. Also, Sea Skimmer has a valid point.....what are they suppose to do? Send in an entire division to look for one man? That's what intel is for, intel is why Saddam was captured. Intel will be why Osama is captured.....if he isn't dead.

Stuart Mackey · Post by **Stuart Mackey** » 2003-12-15 03:42am

Kamakazie Sith wrote:
Stuart Mackey wrote:
Sea Skimmer wrote:Large armies are near useless for hunting down a man who could be any ware in the world. But clearly that concept is too complex for you.
And a heathy fuck you to. nice strawman btw, large armies have nothing to do with what I said.
America dirverts its resources from hunting someone who has managed to perform the largest single terrorist attack in history, to run off on a wild goose chase against a man and a nation who is less of a threat than a camel with a hangover. As I said, nice to see that America has its priorities right.
Okay enough with the bullshit. You have absolutely no idea how resources are being used.

This is true, however resources used in Iraq are not being used elsware.
I would have thought that this would not need to be expalined.

Also, Sea Skimmer has a valid point.....what are they suppose to do? Send in an entire division to look for one man? That's what intel is for, intel is why Saddam was captured. Intel will be why Osama is captured.....if he isn't dead.

I see you missed the invasion of Afanistan.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-12-15 09:30am

Stuart Mackey wrote: This is true, however resources used in Iraq are not being used elsware.
I would have thought that this would not need to be expalined.

And they wouldn't be used to hunt down Bin Laden if they weren’t in Iraq, they'd be sitting in their bases.

I see you missed the invasion of Afanistan.

In which the US never had more then two brigades on the ground. Now we have and have had one deployed since well before the invasion of Iraq began and the division being used for the task is not committed to Iraq in anyway.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2003-12-15 10:58am

The simple fact is that unlike Osama, we had the borders covered and friends on nearly on those borders with Saddam, more to the point before the War started we had a spot with an X on it were we KNEW he was, We missed that chance to kill him but we knew his physical location unlike Osama who's last know wereabouts predated Sep 11th, we did not have teams of people tracking him, and when we took out AFG in the stiff of battle we lost track of him

Until he shows himself agian Osama is rather much harder to track down, he is their spirtual leader after all not their operations leader, he does not have to talk to people for things to blow up, just release a tape every once in awhile saying "kill America" or "kill Russia" or whatever

Its not as if the US can order a door to door search in Switerzland(Should he be hiding there)

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2003-12-15 11:04am

He is an insignificant speck of dust. He no longer matters. He may even already be dead. If we catch him, great. We should, and I hope we do. But I don't see bin Laden in his current state becoming a threat again. His monthly calls to Jihad are becoming pathetically laughable.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-12-15 11:23am

We'll never get him even if he's still alive. He seems to be smarter than Saddam and would likely put up a fight at least and not just sit there and get caught, but really it matters not unless we see him aiding al-Qaeda drastically sometime soon and verifiably.

Death from the Sea · Post by **Death from the Sea** » 2003-12-15 02:11pm

Stuart Mackey wrote:And a heathy fuck you to. nice strawman btw, large armies have nothing to do with what I said.
America dirverts its resources from hunting someone who has managed to perform the largest single terrorist attack in history, to run off on a wild goose chase against a man and a nation who is less of a threat than a camel with a hangover. As I said, nice to see that America has its priorities right.

since when did America pull out of Afgahnistan? oh wait they haven't. since when did we stop looking for Bin Laden? oh wait we haven't.
Just because the media isn't covering it doesn't mean we are not still looking for Bin Laden.

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2003-12-15 03:33pm

Personally, I'd lay money on him being dead in a cave somewhere.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-12-15 05:54pm

If his Kidney problem or whatever it was combined with having to hide his ass from us hasn't already taken him out, I don't expect for him to be taken alive, unlike Saddam who surrendered despite being armed, Bin Laden will go down shooting.

Korvan · Post by **Korvan** » 2003-12-15 05:59pm

I don't think Saddam was the kind of man to inspire a great deal of loyalty. Fear, certainly. but not loyalty. Once the value of the reward was enough to overcome fear, someone would've turned him in.

Osama, however, does inspire loyalty, and his fanatical followers have little care for any amount of earthly reward. To get him, it will be necessary to infiltrate his organization, not an easy task at this point.

KrauserKrauser · Post by **KrauserKrauser** » 2003-12-16 03:54am

Democrat Election questions:

Where is Saddam? Why isn't he captured? Oh you got him? Oh he was a pussy and didn't put up that glorious fight that I was so hoping he would and following that kill alot of soldiers so I can make a big See I told you so to all the conservatives? Oh Iraq will more than likely quiet down now?

Well....Well...Well...Where is Osama? Oh you say we haven't had a terrorist attack because we already broke up his organization and are constantly searching out not only for him but all of the members of is organization? What you mean we have actually been able to gather information about his organization from the people that we have been able to successfully cature? Are we treating them humanely? We are? I really wanted to find something to bitch about there. Oh Osama is more than likely in the mountains of Pakistan, a sovereign nation that we don't have many ground or human intelligence assests in? He is in an area that has innumerable amounts of hiding places that cannot be completed searched due to that fact? Wow maybe we should put more effort into simply deteriorating the organization that he formed so he has less influence and in effect is marginalized into a more homicidal Baghdad Bob? Oh you mean that is what or Intelligence agencies are doing now because they aren't ignorant dumbasses harping on a uneless subject because they simply want to be noticed and put back in power? Wow, that's good news.

Seriously, Osama is about as important as a pimple on a cow's ass, he is old news and is simply a figurehead of an organization that is being taken out from under him. Every person that cries, "well we got Saddam, but what about Osama," is simply ignoring the fact that Osama is not the ruler of a country and cannot be taken care of in the same way as a country's tyrranical homicidal ruler. He is a different type of animal and different types of animals require different types of hunting to bag them.

0.1 · Post by **0.1** » 2003-12-17 02:55pm

Shhh, it's not a widely known secret, but the U.S. has Bin Laden in custody for a few months now, on the island of Diego Garcia. They're just waiting for the right time to trot him out. It'll be an October surprise. This comes from a very reliable source, a former sec. of State no less.

Just like the capture of Saddam Hussein, after all, according to elected official, they could've gotten Saddam a long time ago if they wanted. It's just that they want to time the capture. And how nice to have done so right before Christmas.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2003-12-17 03:19pm

I agree with Durran (Joe...Shmo).

Everyone thought the suggestion that hiding Hussien somehow coordinated everything was absurd, so why is the hiding Arab on dialysis any more intelligent?

Al Queda is a cell-based terror network, and its doubtful they'll be planning their style of high-profile attacks on the U.S. mainland with the damage they've been dealt. Regardless, it is doubtful Osama bin Laden is some secret mastermind integral to disrupting terrorism right now. Good propoganda, but if you want to talk about the fraudulent Gulf War II and where those resources should've been spent against Islamist terrorism, it isn't in scouring Pakistan for bin Laden.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-17 04:01pm

To quote Robin Williams

"How can we miss a 6'7" arab on dialisis"

Burak Gazan · Post by **Burak Gazan** » 2003-12-17 05:10pm

0.1 wrote:Shhh, it's not a widely known secret, but the U.S. has Bin Laden in custody for a few months now, on the island of Diego Garcia. They're just waiting for the right time to trot him out. It'll be an October surprise. This comes from a very reliable source, a former sec. of State no less.

Just like the capture of Saddam Hussein, after all, according to elected official, they could've gotten Saddam a long time ago if they wanted. It's just that they want to time the capture. And how nice to have done so right before Christmas.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,106012,00.html

Said highly reliable source must have some pretty good drugs

At any rate, it's all in fun.....

EmperorChrostas the Cruel · Post by **EmperorChrostas the Cruel** » 2003-12-17 05:35pm

I saw tha interview, and if she was kidding, I couldn't tell.
I am not sure wheather she backed off after hearing the reaction, or she was being a shithead to O'reilly.
If so, polititions like her shouldn't use sarcasm, if she is so bad at it.
Text quotes make you look bad, unless you are over the top.
You are supposed to roll your eyes, change you pitch and/or cadence.
SOME clue to the public.
Not even a smirk!
Just deadpan continuation of the other questions and answers.