Kindergarden behaviour by the US

[His Divine Shadow]

I'm always glad to hear those foreigners and liberals that continuly decry every act that the US ever does. To the liberals, man I sure do hope that you get your wish and the economy tanks, someone nukes the US and everybody dies just so you can get back in power

Thats very kind of you

To the French, I'm sorry you couldn't work with us in the liberation of Iraq, I hope we get to agree on the next international decision that you continually change your mind and actions on.

Oh you could probably have gotten them on your site with a little diplomacy and not being in such a hurry.

[Chardok]

Of course it's colonial behaviour. The U.S. is selling off the right to make money off of Iraqis.

You're going to have to explain that one to me. When is making money off people a God-given right?

I see, and since you think that this is a justifiable purpose there's really not much more point in dealing with you.

You've GOT to be fucking kidding me. You couldn't pick up the sarcasm in that?

[Chardok]

And Strowbridge, I was mistaken about the strawman thing, Read wrong, I saw it as a misrepresentation of my point, but I see you were making a tengenetal (Is that even a word?) point. Anyway, my apologies.

[Graeme Dice]

Of course it's colonial behaviour. The U.S. is selling off the right to make money off of Iraqis.

You're going to have to explain that one to me. When is making money off people a God-given right?

Do you not understand economics or the English language in any way shape or form? You'll note that there is more than one definition for the word "right", and that it doesn't always refer to fundamental human rights. The U.S. is selling off the right to build services and infrastructure in Iraq, services that will earn those companies money in the future. Unless these services and infrastructure are turned over to the Iraqis free of charge, then the U.S. companies are going to be in control of the country for the foreseeable future.

You've GOT to be fucking kidding me. You couldn't pick up the sarcasm in that?

If that was not your argument, then you really don't have an argument, as all you posted was about how it was justifiable.

[Chardok]

Do you not understand economics or the English language in any way shape or form? You'll note that there is more than one definition for the word "right", and that it doesn't always refer to fundamental human rights. The U.S. is selling off the right to build services and infrastructure in Iraq, services that will earn those companies money in the future. Unless these services and infrastructure are turned over to the Iraqis free of charge, then the U.S. companies are going to be in control of the country for the foreseeable future.

The way I understand it. The U.S. Goes in, Blows stuff up. Then, The U.S. taxpayers shell out 87 billion dollars to fix shit. And we say okay, those of you that didn't help us, you ain't gettin any money. Sorry, sucks to be you. Then when everything is rebuilt, we give it back to the iraqis (Yes, free of charge, we break it, we fix it.) The 87 Billion was not a loan. DO you Honestly think the we're going to go in, fix the stuff and say "Okay, iraqis, pay us back or we OWN you?" I'm not going to deny that I think the U.S. is going to put ass-puppets into government positions to take full advantage over iraq's vast oil reserves and get good deals on crude, but we're not going to come out and say it...

If that was not your argument, then you really don't have an argument, as all you posted was about how it was justifiable.

YOU'RE RIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING THE WHOLE GODDAMNED TIME, CHRIST ALMIGHTY JESUS IN HEAVEN DOING JUMPINGJACKS OVER A PIT OF FLAMING PUNGEE STICKS. It's NOT right what the U.S. Is doing, BUT WE CAN DO IT SINCE IT'S OUR GODDAMNED SHIT-LICKING COCK BASTARD FUCKMONKEY FLAMING ASSED PISS-FACED MONEY.


We're under NO contractual obligation to give ANYthing to ANYone to rebuild in Iraq. Again, I don't think it's right, I just think it's OUR right.

[MKSheppard]

Unless these services and infrastructure are turned over to the Iraqis free of charge, then the U.S. companies are going to be in control of the country for the foreseeable future.

And who fucking Cares? Or didn't you notice that the bidding is open to
Britain, Poland, and virtually everyone, even the Marshall Islands and Palau in
the fucking PACIFIC? The only countries excluded are the ones who
opposed the war, and we really don't want them back in the country
rebuilding their shoddy shit that took us just a JDAM or two to annihilate.

[MKSheppard]

By not allowing outside countries to bid on contracts you are forced to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

So you're telling me that you're living in a fantasy world where the British,
Polish, and even the Marshall Islands aren't in the bid process?

[MKSheppard]

where the British,
Polish, and even the Marshall Islands aren't in the bid process?

I know there's a lot more countries that the bidding is open too, but I"m not going to spend time looking it up, since I have to go to bed at 9 PM tonight, fuck you if you're so god damn ignorant you think this is a US Only bid process.

[Sea Skimmer]

AAARRRRRrrrrrrgh!

You fucking morons. If you would have opened up the bidding process the U.N. would have stepped in and helped to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

Don't you understand, you're argument in circular.

By not allowing outside countries to bid on contracts you are forced to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

Because you are forced to pay for the rebuilding or Iraq it justifies not allowing outside countries to bid on contracts.

Moron: This exclusion ONLY applies to contacts funded with AMERICAN taxpayer dollars. Money thrown in by other countries is open to all potential bidders.

[MKSheppard]

found this article:

Bullshit defeated

Sixty-three countries were deemed eligible to compete for the lucrative contracts, including Japan, Britain, Australia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, South Korea, the Philippines and Romania.

Not "US only" like you fucking shitheads say. You can fuck off,
lying scuzzbuckets.

[KrauserKrauser]

found this article:

Bullshit defeated

Sixty-three countries were deemed eligible to compete for the lucrative contracts, including Japan, Britain, Australia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, South Korea, the Philippines and Romania.

Not "US only" like you fucking shitheads say. You can fuck off,
lying scuzzbuckets.

But but but what issue do I have to dredge up to harp on now? Come on we need to get bitch some more because we aren't in power.

[Lord MJ]

Bush seems to view countries the way a young boy views friends:

"If you won't play by my rules, then I won't be your friend any more!"

"I'm gonna get him back for saying mean things about me!"

"I've got the candy, and you don't! Nyaa nyaa nyaa!"

Those who want to maintain good relations with the Bush Administration would do well to keep that in mind.

I had some adult friends that acted like that not too long ago.....

[jegs2]

Actions have consequences. Under Clinton, France may have been able to even actively resist a US invasion of Iraq without suffering consequences, but Chirac should have foreseen this with Bush. One can do anything, so long as one is prepared to accept the consequences. A soldier can walk up to the Commanding General, pull back, and punch the CG right in the nose. He may even feel really good about it, for a couple of seconds before the consequences of said action begin to take effect.

It appears that those who socked the US in the nose are beginning to feel the effects of consequence...

[Darth Wong]

It appears that those who socked the US in the nose are beginning to feel the effects of consequence...

Except that this rule makes no distinction between those who aggressively opposed the US and those who merely stayed on the sidelines. This is like the CG punishing the guy who punched him in the nose and the guy who stood 10 feet away doing nothing with equal sanctions.

[jegs2]

Except that this rule makes no distinction between those who aggressively opposed the US and those who merely stayed on the sidelines. This is like the CG punishing the guy who punched him in the nose and the guy who stood 10 feet away doing nothing with equal sanctions.

I agree with that. Nations like Canada should not be lumped in with the likes of France.

[MKSheppard]

Concession accepted by your silence, Graeme and Strowbridge.

You dickless motherfuckers misled everyone saying that all the
contracts would be going to the US, and that everyone else was
locked out of bidding, when in reality:

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/12_12_03/art16.asp

Sixty-three countries were deemed eligible to compete for the lucrative contracts, including Japan, Britain, Australia, Poland, Italy, Spain, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, South Korea, the Philippines and Romania.

I despise people who don't even accept the fact that yes, sometimes
they're wrong in a debate. I think that's why Patrick Degan and
me managed to come to a mutual ceasefire in the SDI/ABM
thread, because I was willing to conceede points of mine that he
smashed.

[C.S.Strowbridge]

Concession accepted by your silence, Graeme and Strowbridge.

I'm in the middle of moving, so this web board doesn't hold the highest priority to me.

You dickless motherfuckers misled everyone saying that all the
contracts would be going to the US, and that everyone else was
locked out of bidding,

Really? I never said said that. I said, 'countries who were outside,' as in outside the coalition. Now granted, the meaning may have not been clear, but to assume I meant no one but the U.S. is foolish.

[C.S.Strowbridge]

You fucking morons. If you would have opened up the bidding process the U.N. would have stepped in and helped to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

Because you know UN involvement in a situation always leads to great results, see Bosnia, Somalia, etc.

UN has resources that would be nice but I would rather not see the results that inevitably come from UN involvement.

Do you really need a list of American fuck ups.

[C.S.Strowbridge]

AAARRRRRrrrrrrgh!

You fucking morons. If you would have opened up the bidding process the U.N. would have stepped in and helped to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

Don't you understand, you're argument in circular.

By not allowing outside countries to bid on contracts you are forced to pay for the rebuilding of Iraq.

Because you are forced to pay for the rebuilding or Iraq it justifies not allowing outside countries to bid on contracts.

Moron: This exclusion ONLY applies to contacts funded with AMERICAN taxpayer dollars. Money thrown in by other countries is open to all potential bidders.

Two points:

1.) America rejected direct international aid, because they would have to open up the bidding process.

2.) Iraq has $125 Billion in international debts, which the U.S. is trying to get forgiven. Any nation that forgives part of Iraqs debta, (which includes France, Germany and Russia) WILL be paying for Iraqi reconstructions.

[JodoForce]

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So in conclusion, this guy agrees with what Shrub and co. are doing because he is just as childish as they are.

[JodoForce]

Chardok:
YOU'RE RIGHT, WHICH IS WHAT I'VE BEEN FUCKING SAYING THE WHOLE GODDAMNED TIME, CHRIST ALMIGHTY JESUS IN HEAVEN DOING JUMPINGJACKS OVER A PIT OF FLAMING PUNGEE STICKS. It's NOT right what the U.S. Is doing, BUT WE CAN DO IT SINCE IT'S OUR GODDAMNED SHIT-LICKING COCK BASTARD FUCKMONKEY FLAMING ASSED PISS-FACED MONEY.

Then why the fuck are you arguing in the first place? Nobody said the US CAN'T do what they're doing now, the argument has always been that they SHOULDN'T do what they're doing.