Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I just read the last couple of replies to my point about R2's fuck-up and I can't see why people won't just drop the fan-wank for a second and realise that it was pathetic.
I love R2, I love the cute little machine that bleeps, and we all know he's superior to any droid in Star Trek, but he purely and simply fucked-up. No matter how anyone makes it out, R2 is not infallible. He just about saved Amidala (who was still taken prisoner and almost put to death), but it almost costed C3PO and Anakin, his master.
R2 rocks, but just admit that he made a mistake. Oh, and this post probably made absolutely no sense, I'm really tired, but you get my point.
So were you born this stupid or was it a gradual process?
R2 d2 Saved Amidala from death on the Droid Assembly Line, risks his neck in a hazardous environment, and you're faulting him for what? Not grabbing a lightsaber and helping Anakin beat the entire droid army?
No, I'm faulting him for pushing C3PO from a ledge, which obviously almost costed him his "life". I thought I made that clear.
Obviously some people can not just admit that R2 is fallible.
R2D2 does not belong to Anakin, it belongs to Amidala, R2 saved her life, he also had known C-3PO for just a few days, TPM probably means nothing to R2 as well, why would R2 place 3PO (just a droid made out of junk, can be easily reassambled if required) or Anakin (just a punk he barely knows) above Amidala? It did what it could do and it saved it's master, what else was R2 to do? Fight Jango Fett? I don't see where R2's mistake was.
Shogoki wrote:R2D2 does not belong to Anakin, it belongs to Amidala, R2 saved her life, he also had known C-3PO for just a few days, TPM probably means nothing to R2 as well, why would R2 place 3PO (just a droid made out of junk, can be easily reassambled if required) or Anakin (just a punk he barely knows) above Amidala? It did what it could do and it saved it's master, what else was R2 to do? Fight Jango Fett? I don't see where R2's mistake was.
I thought R2 belonged to Anakin, my mistake. I don't see how any of that validates the idiocy which was pushing C3PO from a ledge though.
Ok, lets try this slowly, since you are obviously having trouble understanding:
C3PO is a droid, out of thousands of droids and computers R2 probably has spoken to, it's also made out of junk, so there's nothing that can't be easily repaired, it knows 3PO for just a cuple of days, at this point R2 considers 3PO even more expendable than it's comrads that where blasted back in TPM as long as he can save Amidala, 3PO won't move, Amidala is about to get deep fried, 3PO won't really die if he falls off, and R2 does not care about 3PO anyway, so R2 pushes 3PO out of the way to save Amidala.
Idiotic would be to put what's basically a really cheap computer before someone i cared about just because it happens to be in my way.
I'd like to know how shoving someone out of the way to get a time critical job done has any fucking relevence to his ability to analyze and repair an alien starship.
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Ender wrote:I'd like to know how shoving someone out of the way to get a time critical job done has any fucking relevence to his ability to analyze and repair an alien starship.
This might be stretching it a bit (ok, a lot), but in order for r2 to accomplish the time cirittcal job it took a level of initiative on his own part and r2 realized what he had to do in order to get the job done. now place him on the alien starship, with that level of sentinence and his willingness to do what it takes to accomplish certain tasks, it means r2-d2 not only has the means to do the job, but the will to do it. As a droid, its that will that comes into question.
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Are we assuming that there is an R2 compatible plug somewhere?
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Gandalf wrote:Are we assuming that there is an R2 compatible plug somewhere?
He doesn't need to interface with the equipment to repair it. He didn't need to do this with the Falcon. Nor did he when he sabotaged the red R2 unit that Owen Lars bought instead of him, or repair 3P0.
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Gandalf wrote:Are we assuming that there is an R2 compatible plug somewhere?
He doesn't need to interface with the equipment to repair it. He didn't need to do this with the Falcon. Nor did he when he sabotaged the red R2 unit that Owen Lars bought instead of him, or repair 3P0.
Nitpick it was an R5 unit. For some reason luke didn't know the difference.
I'd read somewhere that the R5 unit blew it's own motivator to prevent Threepio and Artoo being seperated. I think it was the CCG from Decipher.
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Gandalf wrote:I'd read somewhere that the R5 unit blew it's own motivator to prevent Threepio and Artoo being seperated. I think it was the CCG from Decipher.
If true, the canon radio drama trumps it.
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ARTOO: ANSWERS ABSENTLY AS HE WORKS
THREEPIO: Artoo, you know droids are not supposed to modify other droids without human supervision. Honestly, I don't know what's gotten into you!
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Gandalf wrote:I'd read somewhere that the R5 unit blew it's own motivator to prevent Threepio and Artoo being seperated. I think it was the CCG from Decipher.
If true, the canon radio drama trumps it.
THREEPIO: Get back in line! They'll never buy a...Artoo, what are you doing to that R5 unit?
ARTOO: ANSWERS ABSENTLY AS HE WORKS
THREEPIO: Artoo, you know droids are not supposed to modify other droids without human supervision. Honestly, I don't know what's gotten into you!
That's not in the movies! Is that why R5D4 blew his lid?!?!?
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LadyTevar wrote:
That's not in the movies! Is that why R5D4 blew his lid?!?!?
Yup! What a stinker R2 is!
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Gandalf wrote:I'd read somewhere that the R5 unit blew it's own motivator to prevent Threepio and Artoo being seperated. I think it was the CCG from Decipher.
You mean SKIPPY THE JEDI DROID?
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shouldn't it be Chewbacca instead of R2D2? after all a droid has huge advantages over humanoids.
how would Chewie do in R2D2's place?
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LadyTevar wrote:
That's not in the movies! Is that why R5D4 blew his lid?!?!?
Yup! What a stinker R2 is!
Really?
God, we really should have an "R2 appreciation day', he is clearly my kind of guy ... er ... droid.
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Why is it so shocking? I always wondered whether or not R5-D4's "bad motivator" was either C-3PO or R2-D2's work or if it was just a very convenient coincidence to move along the plot. I guess this answers my question...
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Embracer Of Darkness wrote:What about exocomps? They were pretty damn good, and quite alot smaller than R2.
Excomps were a one episode wonder. They have never, to the best of knowledge, been so much as mentioned outside of that episode. I don't see why they should be flung into the arguement.
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IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Why is it so shocking? I always wondered whether or not R5-D4's "bad motivator" was either C-3PO or R2-D2's work or if it was just a very convenient coincidence to move along the plot. I guess this answers my question...
Fools! Weren't you aware that R5-D4's motivator problem was self inflicted? You see, R5-D4 was the only existing, force using droid! Using the force, he saw into the future and saw that R2-D2 going to Luke was vital for the very fate of the universe. With no other option, R5-D4 valiantly sacrificed himself in order to bring about peace to the galaxy.
Let us all bow our heads in remembereance to this unsung hero....
Embracer Of Darkness wrote:I thought R2 belonged to Anakin, my mistake. I don't see how any of that validates the idiocy which was pushing C3PO from a ledge though.
You figure he should have stood there and argued with a notoriously long-winded neurotic protocol droid until he got out of the way while Amidala was inexorably dragged to certain death?
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Mutant Headcrab wrote:Fools! Weren't you aware that R5-D4's motivator problem was self inflicted? You see, R5-D4 was the only existing, force using droid! Using the force, he saw into the future and saw that R2-D2 going to Luke was vital for the very fate of the universe. With no other option, R5-D4 valiantly sacrificed himself in order to bring about peace to the galaxy.
Let us all bow our heads in remembereance to this unsung hero....
Doesn't that contradict the radio drama, which has higher authority than the comic in which that appeared?
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Mutant Headcrab wrote:
Fools! Weren't you aware that R5-D4's motivator problem was self inflicted? You see, R5-D4 was the only existing, force using droid! Using the force, he saw into the future and saw that R2-D2 going to Luke was vital for the very fate of the universe. With no other option, R5-D4 valiantly sacrificed himself in order to bring about peace to the galaxy.
Let us all bow our heads in remembereance to this unsung hero....
Like I said earlier...SKIPPY THE JEDI DROID!
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Mutant Headcrab wrote:
Fools! Weren't you aware that R5-D4's motivator problem was self inflicted? You see, R5-D4 was the only existing, force using droid! Using the force, he saw into the future and saw that R2-D2 going to Luke was vital for the very fate of the universe. With no other option, R5-D4 valiantly sacrificed himself in order to bring about peace to the galaxy.
Let us all bow our heads in remembereance to this unsung hero....
Like I said earlier...SKIPPY THE JEDI DROID!
Explain this Skippy.
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Gandalf wrote:Are we assuming that there is an R2 compatible plug somewhere?
All parties in this scenario are equipped with all the tools they'd need to accomplish their task. In R2's case, this would mean that he'd have an interface plug that's compatible with the ship.
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