Ian Huntley Gets Life

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-12-17 12:15pm

The Soham Trial is over and the judgement passed. I would say that I'm happy with the results from what I have heard, but I still can't believe the nerve Huntley and Carr had during the time before they were suspects.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2003-12-17 12:28pm

prison is too good for him... he needs a pit of some sort that he can't escape from... with no plumbing.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-12-17 12:35pm

Zac Naloen wrote:prison is too good for him... he needs a pit of some sort that he can't escape from... with no plumbing.

I agree, though the punishment Carr got was fair. The media demonised her an awful lot despite her genuine belief her partner was not a murderer and tried to defend his position until she found the real truth.

Huntley, however, can rot in hell.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-12-17 12:37pm

Did you hear about what they werent able to reveal in the trial though?
That he's been accused of sexual crimes against minors before and the only thing that kept him out was HER testimony giving him an aliby...when this was mentioned it certainly made some of the prosecutions statements make a lot more sense...

Post by **Colonel Olrik** » 2003-12-17 12:39pm

I hope he gets loads of rough love during his two consecutive life sentences.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-12-17 12:50pm

The BBC wrote:Home Secretary David Blunkett has ordered an inquiry into how the vetting system failed to stop Ian Huntley getting a job as a school caretaker.

The move comes after Huntley was convicted of murdering Soham 10-year-olds Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.

It emerged social services had looked into four separate complaints he had sex with underage girls and an alleged indecent assault on a 10-year-old.

Mr Blunkett said it had been a "horrific" case, with real concerns about the checks on Huntley's past.

'Wicked act'

A separate police review and a case review by social services involved with Huntley in the past were also announced.

The three inquiries will focus on:
Effectiveness of intelligence and vetting by Cambridgeshire and Humberside forces into previous allegations against Huntley
Findings of a Metropolitan Police review into the early part of the Soham criminal investigation by Cambridgeshire Police
Case review into how agencies in north-east Lincolnshire fulfilled their duties to protect children.

Announcing the vetting inquiry, the home secretary said his thoughts were with the girls' families.

"I cannot begin to imagine the pain they must have endured during this dark time," he said.

"I hope they will find some comfort in seeing the man responsible for this wicked act brought to justice.

"Real concerns exist, however, about the way in which police intelligence about Huntley's past was handled.

"I am determined that we should uncover the full facts through this independent inquiry.

"The inquiry will be conducted speedily to minimise the distress to the two families and ensure that any lessons which need to be learned can be done so quickly."

Social services review

Mr Blunkett also asked Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary to consider the findings of a review into the Cambridgeshire force's conduct of the early part of the murder investigation.

North East Lincolnshire Social Services will review how they fulfilled their duties to protect children, after it emerged they received complaints of underage sexual relations against Huntley in the 1990s.

They said none of the victims wanted to make a formal complaint, so there was nothing they could do against him.

There were also three allegations of rape against Huntley. One resulted in a charge, in May 1998, but the case never came to court as the CPS was not hopeful of a conviction and dropped it.

He was also charged with a burglary, although the case was dropped when it came to court, and Huntley emerged from all of this without a conviction.

Thorough police checks are designed to prevent any unsuitable people from working with children.

But despite the claims against him, Huntley was given the all-clear to work at the girls' school.

Dr Carole Easton, chief executive of the charity ChildLine, said the failure to identify Huntley's history of sex crime allegations "beggared belief".

"It is incomprehensible that this man, who was known to the CPS, police and local authorities, should have ended up working in a school, in a position of trust."

Access flaws

There were also intelligence system flaws at Humberside Police, where vital information on suspects was routinely discarded because senior officers had misinterpreted the Data Protection Act.

Staff responsible for vetting such school job applications were also not able to access a database with information about sex offences and children.

Chris Fox, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers, welcomed the inquiry but said: "Whatever the exact circumstances of this particular case, it is clear that there are differing interpretations of what is required, by different agencies."

He described the "contradictory" nature of the need to rehabilitate offenders against the need to protect vulnerable people such as children by assessing "the character of those in contact with such groups".

"We very much hope the inquiry will clarify the way in which the balance between these competing interests should be achieved."

He added new arrangements were in place for such vetting requests, with national intelligence gathering and new technology allowing forces to deal with the "vast amount" of data involved.

Soham area MP and Conservative shadow police minister, James Paice, said the inquiry needed to "sensitively and quickly" establish how Huntley had gained approval for his job.

"The families can at least take some solace in the fact that the evil which took Holly and Jessica away from them will be behind bars for a very long time," he said. "Only now can they begin to rebuild their lives."

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Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-12-17 01:42pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:Did you hear about what they werent able to reveal in the trial though?
That he's been accused of sexual crimes against minors before and the only thing that kept him out was HER testimony giving him an aliby...when this was mentioned it certainly made some of the prosecutions statements make a lot more sense...

Blunkett is having a reform in how such info is distributed since the police didn't get this until long after the murders.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-12-17 11:14pm

I've missed something; what is this referring to?

Embracer Of Darkness · Post by **Embracer Of Darkness** » 2003-12-18 07:32am

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I've missed something; what is this referring to?

Huntley slept with quite a few girls under the age of sixteen over the last few years, but was never charged with it. He was also accused of rape two or three times apparently.

People are going absolutely mental because a school hired him despite this record, and despite him using an alias. They also say that this trial and investication would've gone much quicklier if this evidence was brought to light, but Britain's stupid (and contradictory) data protection laws say that accusations can not be used as evidence if no verdict was made, and must be deleted from the system. In short, a kiddy-fiddling sicko fuck has been on the street for years after a whole mess of offenses.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-12-18 10:44am

I reference to the HP vs. Buffy thread a while ago, one of the punishments he should get would be him being nailed to a wall and then Accio testicals!

Not only did this cunt help look for the girls he killed, but he didn't even bat a fucking eyelid when the cameras were around!!
I just can't fucking stand this sort of thing and the bullshit story he concocted about the bath, it's fucking ridiculous!!!
If the coppers had gotten their fucking fingers out and put the info about his previous crimes (rape, etc) on the fucking computers this could have been avoided!!!!
CUNT ASS BASTARD TWAT!!!! I hope he gets whats coming to him in prison, although IIRC they put pedos and kid killers in solitary for a while so they don't get killed. TWATS.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-12-18 10:49am

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I've missed something; what is this referring to?
Huntley slept with quite a few girls under the age of sixteen over the last few years, but was never charged with it. He was also accused of rape two or three times apparently.

From what I heard (although it's probably half wrong) there was an accussation of rape, but cctv footage saved his sicko ass.
One of his underage (I'll call her a victim because in my eyes she was) victims told him she might be pregnant so he punched her in the stomach.

(Sorry for the double post, I saw the title of the thread and ranted, then read the rest of the thread. Can a mod combine the two posts please?)

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2003-12-18 07:25pm

Embracer Of Darkness wrote:
StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I've missed something; what is this referring to?
Huntley slept with quite a few girls under the age of sixteen over the last few years, but was never charged with it. He was also accused of rape two or three times apparently.

People are going absolutely mental because a school hired him despite this record, and despite him using an alias. They also say that this trial and investication would've gone much quicklier if this evidence was brought to light, but Britain's stupid (and contradictory) data protection laws say that accusations can not be used as evidence if no verdict was made, and must be deleted from the system. In short, a kiddy-fiddling sicko fuck has been on the street for years after a whole mess of offenses.

And in case TR889 was refering to the thread as a whole this sick paedo bastard kidnapped and killed two young-teenage girls which is what this trial is all about.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-12-18 10:01pm

Ah, thank you. I hate being left in the dark. And it happens all the time.

They should just take him out of solitary. That'll give him all the punishment he needs.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2003-12-18 10:05pm

Dorsk 81 wrote: One of his underage (I'll call her a victim because in my eyes she was) victims told him she might be pregnant so he punched her in the stomach

What a dirty son of a bitch

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2003-12-19 10:00am

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:Ah, thank you. I hate being left in the dark. And it happens all the time.

They should just take him out of solitary. That'll give him all the punishment he needs.

We're hoping the mental evaluation committee sees Huntley as clinically sane and thus put him in a standard prison cell. He won't last long after that, and if he does, he'll want to die.

Brady, the still living half of the infamous moors murderers wants to die and even started going on hunger strikes which come to nothing since they have a tube put into his stomach at night when he's asleep. He wants to move to a normal prison so someone will kill him. Hah, fucker, he's staying alove no matter what.

Dorsk 81 · Post by **Dorsk 81** » 2003-12-19 10:51am

watching RI:SE (a morning tv show for those that don't know) and as they were doing their run down of the newspaper head lines, one of the was "Hang My Son".
Apparently his mother wants him hanged and says she always knew there was something wrong with him, or something to the effect.

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2003-12-19 03:08pm

Does it really matter what punishment he gets as long as it's life or above? Not that I give a damn about Huntley or anything, but as long as he's kept from harming society again, what does it matter what happens to him behind bars?

Seriously, every time someone posts about something horrible on this board people erupt into a stream of vitriol and bloodlust as if it would make a difference if their opinions were implemented or not. Is it just venting or something?