STGOD2 OOC Thread

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-12-20 09:08pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darksider wrote:Why the hell is everyone ignoring me? I edited my posts to make my appearance in the system more plausable.
Because you aren't doing much!

Ok, pointing my guns at the ganster class and threatening to turn it into vapor "Isn't much"?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:09pm

Dahak wrote:Beowulf, you can't jam an instantaneous, point-to-point connection. The ship is connected at alltimes with home, it was just a highspeed connection, to get the information through more quickly.

And that means you've got mystical jammer proof tech why?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:10pm

Darksider wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Darksider wrote:Why the hell is everyone ignoring me? I edited my posts to make my appearance in the system more plausable.
Because you aren't doing much!
Ok, pointing my guns at the ganster class and threatening to turn it into vapor "Isn't much"?

Considering it had departed before your post, yes.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-12-20 09:11pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Dahak wrote:Beowulf, you can't jam an instantaneous, point-to-point connection. The ship is connected at alltimes with home, it was just a highspeed connection, to get the information through more quickly.
And that means you've got mystical jammer proof tech why?

Because there's nothing you could jam in a point-to-point connection?

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:12pm

Dahak wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Dahak wrote:Beowulf, you can't jam an instantaneous, point-to-point connection. The ship is connected at alltimes with home, it was just a highspeed connection, to get the information through more quickly.
And that means you've got mystical jammer proof tech why?
Because there's nothing you could jam in a point-to-point connection?

And again, what makes your techonology proof against jamming?

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-12-20 09:13pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darksider wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: Because you aren't doing much!
Ok, pointing my guns at the ganster class and threatening to turn it into vapor "Isn't much"?
Considering it had departed before your post, yes.

Huh?

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Damn, I do need sleep

Oh well, more editing to do.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-12-20 09:14pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Dahak wrote:
Stormbringer wrote: And that means you've got mystical jammer proof tech why?
Because there's nothing you could jam in a point-to-point connection?
And again, what makes your techonology proof against jamming?

How you jam it if there's a) no way you know it existed, b) nothing to jam, like signals in hyperspace, et al.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:14pm

Darksider wrote:
Stormbringer wrote:
Darksider wrote: Ok, pointing my guns at the ganster class and threatening to turn it into vapor "Isn't much"?
Considering it had departed before your post, yes.
Huh?

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Damn, I do need sleep

Oh well, more editing to do.

Dude, do the editing then get some sleep.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-20 09:16pm

Dahak wrote:Beowulf, you can't jam an instantaneous, point-to-point connection. The ship is connected at alltimes with home, it was just a highspeed connection, to get the information through more quickly.

Since when did you have this capability? I see nothing in the OOB indicating you can do this. I've seen no evidence of this capability prior to you just pulling it out of your ass. So suddenly have this capability, which was completely unknown prior to this, and you're claiming it just because I blew a battlecruiser into dust with an entire Task Force.

EDIT: also note the obscene data rate that would be required to be able to upload the thought patterns of everyone onboard in the second or so before the ship went up.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-12-20 09:19pm

Beowulf wrote:
Dahak wrote:Beowulf, you can't jam an instantaneous, point-to-point connection. The ship is connected at alltimes with home, it was just a highspeed connection, to get the information through more quickly.
Since when did you have this capability? I see nothing in the OOB indicating you can do this. I've seen no evidence of this capability prior to you just pulling it out of your ass. So suddenly have this capability, which was completely unknown prior to this, and you're claiming it just because I blew a battlecruiser into dust with an entire Task Force.

It was always there. Just another application of my drive systems, which are, as you will observe, all instantaneous, point-to-point.
As well as several instances where it has been seen that people are connected to each other all over the galaxy.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2003-12-20 09:22pm

Dahak wrote: It was always there. Just another application of my drive systems, which are, as you will observe, all instantaneous, point-to-point.
As well as several instances where it has been seen that people are connected to each other all over the galaxy.

An ion cannon that can wipe out all technology on a planet in one shot is also just another application of HAB and everyone else's ion cannon technology as well. So I guess you won't object when I have one of those arrive in your home system without warning or any pervious declaration, and use it to fry your capital?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-20 09:23pm

Communications is usually handled via ansible, which is effectively an unjammable, point to point, instantenous communication mechanism

Goddamit, people, I HATE it when folks go and declare a magical unjammable technology.

Beowulf has his toys. Let Dahak have his.

Oh, and BTW, Beowulf- There was a Commonwealth patrol squadron en route to the location (note my post about a page back.) The game, I am afraid, is up. You can't hide the fact that a large Stuartian warship was blasted to peices by an inordinate number of Cornerian missiles....

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:26pm

Dahak wrote:It was always there. Just another application of my drive systems, which are, as you will observe, all instantaneous, point-to-point.
As well as several instances where it has been seen that people are connected to each other all over the galaxy.

Frankly, unless you indicated it somehow then you're on thin ice. And it doesn't at all preclude it being jammed at the source.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-20 09:26pm

Dahak wrote:It was always there. Just another application of my drive systems, which are, as you will observe, all instantaneous, point-to-point.
As well as several instances where it has been seen that people are connected to each other all over the galaxy.

A heretofore completely unseen, and unknown application. And instances where people are connected with each other all over the galaxy isn't especially hard. Take the modern telecom system. I can talk to you on the phone with hardly a delay, while there is an obvious speed limitation to how fast the signal can go. Take it to a galactic level, and there need only be a sufficently fast carrier. Ergo, instantenous point to point has yet to be conclusively demonstated for you.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-20 09:30pm

Thirdfain wrote:
Communications is usually handled via ansible, which is effectively an unjammable, point to point, instantenous communication mechanism
Goddamit, people, I HATE it when folks go and declare a magical unjammable technology.

Beowulf has his toys. Let Dahak have his.

Oh, and BTW, Beowulf- There was a Commonwealth patrol squadron en route to the location (note my post about a page back.) The game, I am afraid, is up. You can't hide the fact that a large Stuartian warship was blasted to peices by an inordinate number of Cornerian missiles....

It's not that he has it that I'm pissed about, it's that he's suddenly sprung it on us, as opposed to having it previously declared. And I do sell weapons to other powers. Inordinate numbers of Cornerian missiles is somewhat expected when they're Cornerian.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-20 09:32pm

It's not that he has it that I'm pissed about, it's that he's suddenly sprung it on us, as opposed to having it previously declared. And I do sell weapons to other powers. Inordinate numbers of Cornerian missiles is somewhat expected when they're Cornerian.

Dahak has mentioned this technology DOZENS of times since the advent of this STGOD, it is central to the culture of his empire.

Additionally, the Commonwealth fleet wasn't that far away when you pulled your little jump-and-smash. They saw the drive signatures on long-distance sensors. The very size of your fleet works against it in this situation.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:32pm

You know what, I'm going to exercise the mod-stick on this one. Dahak, since this was sprung on every one with out any warning at all, I think it's best to consider that they simply didn't react in time to get a distress signal off. You'll have the tech and this time we'll all actually know. Fair?

However the debris and all this going to be pretty solid evidence so it's not like the results won't be the same.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-20 09:34pm

Fair enough. Thank you, Stormbringer.

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-20 09:36pm

Thirdfain wrote:
It's not that he has it that I'm pissed about, it's that he's suddenly sprung it on us, as opposed to having it previously declared. And I do sell weapons to other powers. Inordinate numbers of Cornerian missiles is somewhat expected when they're Cornerian.
Dahak has mentioned this technology DOZENS of times since the advent of this STGOD, it is central to the culture of his empire.

Additionally, the Commonwealth fleet wasn't that far away when you pulled your little jump-and-smash. They saw the drive signatures on long-distance sensors. The very size of your fleet works against it in this situation.

When has he mentioned this technology? I haven't seen it. And I have a perfectly reasonable explaination as to why I was there. I was hunting pirates.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-12-20 09:37pm

you're forgetting that I was on the outskirts of the system when the Black alliance ship started hitting the AU corvette. I was heading in system in full combat mode when this went down. The Liberator saw it happen.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:38pm

Dahak has mentioned this technology DOZENS of times since the advent of this STGOD, it is central to the culture of his empire.

Indeed, but this is one of those cases where people didn't share relevant information and so it's better just to work it out this way.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-20 09:39pm

Darksider wrote:you're forgetting that I was on the outskirts of the system when the Black alliance ship started hitting the AU corvette. I was heading in system in full combat mode when this went down. The Liberator saw it happen.

And judging by the actions of your captain he was severly intoxicated.

Darksider · Post by **Darksider** » 2003-12-20 09:42pm

Stormbringer wrote:
Darksider wrote:you're forgetting that I was on the outskirts of the system when the Black alliance ship started hitting the AU corvette. I was heading in system in full combat mode when this went down. The Liberator saw it happen.
And judging by the actions of your captain he was severly intoxicated.

Ok, I guess I deserve that for playing on two hours of sleep. But I still saw it happen. There's no way in hell the cornerians can hide it. The Liberator was going in system full burn, with all sensors active. They may not have made it in time to save the other ships (I'm hooked on a game over at Theforce.net that's why I didn't respond in time and why i've only got two hours of sleep.) but they saw everything.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-20 09:42pm

-sigh.- Just once could I have an ally who doesn't issue crack to his commanding officers prior to entering important first contact situations?

Post by **Beowulf** » 2003-12-20 09:43pm

Darksider wrote:you're forgetting that I was on the outskirts of the system when the Black alliance ship started hitting the AU corvette. I was heading in system in full combat mode when this went down. The Liberator saw it happen.

Should have hit you as well then... ah well...