Which is more dangerous to the Borg?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-12-24 02:37am

Honestly, while an ISD could do a shitload of damage, the Borg network is well known for it's enormous lack of security. Sticking Windows on a drone would infect the entire collective and fuck them over. It would do far more damage than an ISD.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-12-24 02:47am

I probably shouldn't have to ask but is this a serious thread?

Rhoades · Post by **Rhoades** » 2003-12-24 04:14am

Kamakazie Sith wrote:I probably shouldn't have to ask but is this a serious thread?

With options such as "Windows XP", I doubt that this thread is entirely serious.

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2003-12-24 06:18am

Rhoades wrote:
Kamakazie Sith wrote:I probably shouldn't have to ask but is this a serious thread?
With options such as "Windows XP", I doubt that this thread is entirely serious.

Sometimes it is hard to tell.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2003-12-24 06:24am

Go farther than just Windows; use a full-fledged computer virus and bring the entire collective under your control!

Crazedwraith · Post by **Crazedwraith** » 2003-12-24 07:59am

kojikun wrote:Honestly, while an ISD could do a shitload of damage, the Borg network is well known for it's enormous lack of security. Sticking Windows on a drone would infect the entire collective and fuck them over. It would do far more damage than an ISD.

Numureos Episodes show that a virus usally only manges to take out one ship. The collective abobdons the ship rather than have the virus continue further.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2003-12-24 01:14pm

Shinova wrote:Go farther than just Windows; use a full-fledged computer virus and bring the entire collective under your control!

What's the difference between the two?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2003-12-24 01:24pm

Ender wrote:
Shinova wrote:Go farther than just Windows; use a full-fledged computer virus and bring the entire collective under your control!
What's the difference between the two?

Windows tends to last longer

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-12-24 01:24pm

Most viruses are less effective, and don't have nearly the man-hours or money poured into making sure they destroy your system.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-12-24 02:15pm

you could always have them assimilate riff and torg from sluggy instead. then the collective would want to do nothing but drink beer and eyeball scantily clad females all day.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-12-24 02:49pm

Windows XP

After all, if it's a pirate copy, after 30 days, it will lock up all there computers and the hive mind will crash (grin)

Okay, seriously

Windows XP has more security holes then a Starfleet computer, so if the Borg switched, any half-assed script kiddie could take them out

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2003-12-24 03:03pm

Shinova wrote:Go farther than just Windows; use a full-fledged computer virus and bring the entire collective under your control!

*looks at Windows XP* Hmm. *looks at virus* Hmm. There's, umm... you imply a difference.

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2003-12-24 03:04pm

And why is this in the PST? Off to the STvsSW forum.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2003-12-24 03:04pm

Ender wrote:
Shinova wrote:Go farther than just Windows; use a full-fledged computer virus and bring the entire collective under your control! :D
What's the difference between the two?

Not much.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2003-12-24 04:31pm

Not Windows XP. Millenium Edition.

The most potent computer annihilation weapon known to man.

Darth Yoshi · Post by **Darth Yoshi** » 2003-12-24 09:40pm

As dangerous as Windows is, I sincerely doubt that it'll run in the Borg Collective. Something about technical specification not withing paramaters or something.

As such, my vote goes to the pack of marauding Jawas. Fear them, for they are short and speak jibberish.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-12-24 10:12pm

YT300000 wrote:Not Windows XP. Millenium Edition.

The most potent computer annihilation weapon known to man.

Hah! Windows ME is nothing compared to the utter weapon of mass destruction that was Windows 1.0. It was originally designed towards the end of the cold war to license to the Russians and crash their computer infrastructure. It was deployed to the American public instead to try to recoup expenses.

consequences · Post by **consequences** » 2003-12-24 10:26pm

Darth Yoshi wrote: As such, my vote goes to the pack of marauding Jawas. Fear them, for they are short and speak jibberish.

Agreed, I have friends whose plans for world domination revolve around armies of unintelligible midgets(for the increased ability to keep secrets and lower target profile of course).

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2003-12-24 10:48pm

YT300000 wrote:Not Windows XP. Millenium Edition.

The most potent computer annihilation weapon known to man.

Millenium is not a problem if you know how to configure it properly

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-12-25 12:58am

Solauren wrote:Windows XP

After all, if it's a pirate copy, after 30 days, it will lock up all there computers and the hive mind will crash (grin)

Okay, seriously

Windows XP has more security holes then a Starfleet computer, so if the Borg switched, any half-assed script kiddie could take them out

I have seen many many computers running pirated versions of Windows XP and none were any different from original ones. Pirated copies of Windows dont lock up, its all Microsoft propoganda. Infact I had one running for over two years...

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2003-12-25 01:00am

evilcat4000 wrote: I have seen many many computers running pirated versions of Windows XP and none were any different from original ones. Pirated copies of Windows dont lock up, its all Microsoft propoganda. Infact I had one running for over two years...

I would be careful about what you say. Also, you are correct that they don't crash. Pirate versions are merely the OEM copies without the copy protection scheme. The only thing Microsoft did to combat this was lock the two registration keys out of Service Pack 1, which was easily defeated using conventional means.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-12-25 01:17am

I have not violated any laws since I saw pirated versions of Windows in terrertories where intellectual property rights do not apply yet. In the US I have never used any pirated software.

Anarchist Bunny · Post by **Anarchist Bunny** » 2003-12-25 01:34am

anarchistbunny wrote:
anarchistbunny, May 4, 2003 wrote:Lets play the calculations game again! New shield figures from Bean 246 terraton shielding, or 246000000 megatons. Lets give the borg the again generous 256 megaton torps at one per second, and 1000 of em per wave, all fire until all are destroyed, no obstructions in firing. ISD can only fire MTLs, 200 gigatons, 1 every 2 seconds x 50 emplacements. It would take 40 seconds for the ISD to destroy all the cubes, in that time the cubes will do 10,240,000 megatons of damage, or 4.16% to the ISD's shields. So it would take over 25 waves of 1000 cubes to destroy a ISD(assuming once shields are gone, so is the ISD) and the ISD will have taken out over 24,000 cubes.
Now that 256 megaton figure is really very generous with Nemesis calcs and the fact that a Tacticle Borg Cube torp did very little damage to an unshielded(techinicly) Voyager, about the same as a Klingon torp did to the E-D in Generations IIRC.

Really with significantly smaller torp numbers the ISD>> WinXP

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2003-12-26 12:28am

The Kernel wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote: I have seen many many computers running pirated versions of Windows XP and none were any different from original ones. Pirated copies of Windows dont lock up, its all Microsoft propoganda. Infact I had one running for over two years...
I would be careful about what you say. Also, you are correct that they don't crash. Pirate versions are merely the OEM copies without the copy protection scheme. The only thing Microsoft did to combat this was lock the two registration keys out of Service Pack 1, which was easily defeated using conventional means.

Actually, I think there's only one "physical" version of the Pro package, and whether it will check your hardware and crap depends on whether you use a corporate key or a small-business key. Since corporations buy in bulk, they can't expect them to have to call M$ for every single copy in a 1000-license deal and such. What they did with the Service Pack was blacklist the most popular pirate key (and I think it didn't check it with HQ or whatever) but all that was needed was distribute a new, unblacklisted key

StarDestroyer.Net BBS

Which is more dangerous to the Borg?

Which one?

Which is more dangerous to the Borg?