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Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-24 04:43pm

From: Affront Regime
To: TSC
Re: Azegart Indpedence

We wish to request that you remove your forces from the portions of that nation that they occupy as well. In return we will see to it that the Azegart obey all sentient rights standards and we will oversee the peacable transfer to their own authority.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 05:03pm

Coded transmission to the Corporate Sector

We expect this to remain confidential. But as you know, our navy is under strength, and we may quickly need new vessels.

Chiefly, we wish to purchase 30 destroyers, and 3 cruisers.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 05:13pm

Stormbringer wrote:From: Affront Regime
To: TSC
Re: Azegart Indpedence

We wish to request that you remove your forces from the portions of that nation that they occupy as well. In return we will see to it that the Azegart obey all sentient rights standards and we will oversee the peacable transfer to their own authority.

The Aquarian Union endorses this proposal. The people of the Azegart Empire deserve to be independant from foriegn rule as soon as possible. We have had unpleasnt dealings with them in the past, but no one should live under occupation.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-12-24 05:17pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:Coded transmission to the Corporate Sector

We expect this to remain confidential. But as you know, our navy is under strength, and we may quickly need new vessels.

Chiefly, we wish to purchase 30 destroyers, and 3 cruisers.

(Encoded reply)

All new warship orders are to be placed into a queue for processing; estimated queue wait time is one week, with additional delays for construction. However, we have a moderate supply of late-model warships available at slightly reduced cost.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 05:19pm

[encoded reply]

What are the specs on these late model warships?

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-12-24 05:20pm

The Corsair Republic finds the proposal to be ridiculous. What is the 'deserving' based on? The Azegardt were conquered, and have been unable to free themselves. We once again stress the entire idea of 'innate rights' is complete nonsense: Is a spacers 'right to life' heeded by the great void when his suit gets punctured? This basic sense coupled with the Azegardt's open xenophobia makes returning them to power a ridiculous goal, and we oppose such stupidity.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-12-24 05:26pm

Alyrium Denryle wrote:[encoded reply]

What are the specs on these late model warships?

Approximately 25 Tethys (block 1A) destroyers, 10 Siberia (block 6C) heavy cruisers, 20 Imperator (block 9F) light cruisers. Note that the Imperator 9F is not the same as those employed in the SKS, but is based on the same basic design and carries much lighter weaponry (somewhere in between a modern Tethys and Ares).

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 05:33pm

FROM: President Von Braun (CNV Ashkaga, UTR)
TO: General Transmission
SUBJ: Mass Withdrawal from CPS and GA

-::-

"The Commonwealth has always stood strong for it's allies. Whose vessels have served alongside yours in the Azegart occupation force? Whose men and women have died clensing the pirates from your spaceways? Whose soldiers clensed your worlds of the Azegar invaders? The invasion would have struck you anyway, with or without Commonwealth support. Had we not turned from our course, the Aquarian Union would languish still under the strong arm of the Azegart lunatics. True, the Commonwealth joined the Azegart in their rape of the Aquarian Union, an action I, as a soldier, view with shame. But as for the claims we were formally allied? Hogwash. Back-channel dealings do not an alliance make.

"As for the claims the Commonwealth is war-mongering- what wars have we thrown you into? Besides the very action which freed the Union from Azegart opression, the Alliance has not engaged on a single offensive action. During the crisis precipitated by the strike by Cornerian vessels, the Alliance's voting system worked, keeping our nations out of war.

"The Affront calls on us to withdraw from Azegart space. Oddly enough, not a single cubic lightyear of Azegart space is owned by the Commonwealth. The only Commonwealth forces present are part of the Alliance coalition fleet. The Affront should perhaps talk to the Krytos Star Empire and the Stuart Corporation, if they seek to have the current occupying forces removed, as those two nations control vast tracts of territory.

"I smell the scent of Affront trickery behind this. I can only wonder what they have promised.

"Before any nations make rash decisions, they should consider the simple truth- the Commonwealth has stood strong by it's treaty brothers. Thousands of Commonwealth men and women died freeing our alliance brothers from foreign opression.

"As a statement of our goodwill, the Commonwealth will return the Aquarian provinces to the jurisdiction of the Union. We hope that the Aquarian Union, the KSE, and the Stuart Corporation will consider our actions and our past history, and reconsider their decision."

-: ENDTRANSMISSION :-

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-24 05:35pm

[Affront 3]

"It seems we have fallen behind some what in the area of superheavy capital ships. Several nations have begun creating 'superlaser' armed warships. We need something at least capable of countering them."

"The problem isn't so much getting the fire power, a grid incursion is at least equal to what those superlasers provide. It's a matter of providing the necessary equipment to direct an incursion." the Affront engineer continued, "If we could provide sufficient power output we could easily create a beam that could destroy a planet or take out the superlaser equipped vessels."

"Interesting. What are we talking about in terms of space frame?"

"We might be able to adapt the Enuch-class space frame as the basis. Install a bigger power planet and heavier egines, it might work. We can certainly work on a proposal."

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-24 05:41pm

FROM: The Affront
TO: President Von Braun
RE: Mass Withdrawal from CPS and GA

So will you withdraw your forces or not?

As for your claims of trickery, this is no trick. Our word matters and we have given it. We will not go back on that as our honor means something to us.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 05:44pm

FROM: President Von Braun
TO: The Affront
SUBJ: Azegart Territory

-::-

Until we hear further word from out former allies, none of our vessels will leave Azegart space. Our vessels are, as we speak, removing Commonwealth troops from the Aquarian Union.

-: ENDTRANSMISSION :-

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2003-12-24 05:47pm

The Corporate Sector Board of Executives decries the current trend toward superweapon platforms, on the basis that such weapons have historically shown to be a destabilizing influence on galactic politics.

If the trend toward superweapons continues, then the Corporate Sector will be forced to deploy their own designs as a standoff measure.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 06:00pm

Thirdfain wrote:FROM: President Von Braun (CNV Ashkaga, UTR)
TO: General Transmission
SUBJ: Mass Withdrawal from CPS and GA

-::-

"The Commonwealth has always stood strong for it's allies. Whose vessels have served alongside yours in the Azegart occupation force? Whose men and women have died clensing the pirates from your spaceways? Whose soldiers clensed your worlds of the Azegar invaders? The invasion would have struck you anyway, with or without Commonwealth support. Had we not turned from our course, the Aquarian Union would languish still under the strong arm of the Azegart lunatics. True, the Commonwealth joined the Azegart in their rape of the Aquarian Union, an action I, as a soldier, view with shame. But as for the claims we were formally allied? Hogwash. Back-channel dealings do not an alliance make.

"As a statement of our goodwill, the Commonwealth will return the Aquarian provinces to the jurisdiction of the Union. We hope that the Aquarian Union, the KSE, and the Stuart Corporation will consider our actions and our past history, and reconsider their decision."

-: ENDTRANSMISSION :-

And it is because you have helped us that we all you friend still. However we cannot sacrifice our ability to grow and prosper in an alliance that does nt allow us to practice merchantilism, or protect our industry with Tarrifs.

The TSC is a militaristic culture, war being the way in which citizenship is gained. While this is well and good, it also puts our nation at risk. To be able to defend ourselves, it becomes necessary to be on our own, so that our economy may bebuild, and our industial capacity to be returned to its former splendor.

This was not a personal decision on our part, it was one of pure pragmatism, and we hope it does not sour our relations.

We thank you for being so understanding of our needs, and hope that we may still be friends, if not allies. The planets that were spared rape by the Azegart will greatly help our rebuilding efforts. And for that, we thank you.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 06:08pm

And it is because you have helped us that we all you friend still. However we cannot sacrifice our ability to grow and prosper in an alliance that does nt allow us to practice nerchantilism, or protectour industry with Tarrifs.

The TSC is a militaristic culture, war being the way in which citizenship is gained. While this is well and good, it also puts our nation at risk. To be able to defend ourselves, it becomes necessary to be on our own, so that our economy may bebuild, and our industial capacity to be returned to its former splendor.

This was not a personal decision on our part, it was one of pure pragmatism, and we hope it does not sour our relations.

We thank you for being so understanding of our needs, and hope that we may still be friends, if not allies.

And what, then, of the Azegart? the Alliance's efforts in pacifying have not beeen completely successful. There is no evidence that the Affront, a small nation of limited power compared to our own great powers, can in any way restrain the massive Azegart Empire.

They must be monitored, and theeir conversion to a peaceful power must continue. Is it not in your best interest to take part in ensureing that conversion, via the Grand Alliance? Remember, the Alliance is a defensive force only. The very articles off the alliance forbid agressive action except in response to foreign attack. We understand your reluctance to continue in membership with the CPS, but the two organizations are not interlinked- note that the Nysfitsar Hegemony, a CPS member, is not part of the Alliance.

The galaxy is not yet a safe place. As a gaggle of nonaligned powers, we will be susceptable to the aggression of power blocs, such as the one forming between the Affront, the Cornerians, and the HAB.

The CPS perhaps should dissolve, but the Grand Alliance must stand, if we are to ensure our safety!

Kyle · Post by **Kyle** » 2003-12-24 06:12pm

Crayz9000 wrote:The Corporate Sector Board of Executives decries the current trend toward superweapon platforms, on the basis that such weapons have historically shown to be a destabilizing influence on galactic politics.

If the trend toward superweapons continues, then the Corporate Sector will be forced to deploy their own designs as a standoff measure.

The United Terran Republic would like to add it's own agreement with the corporate sectors stance on the deployment of weapons of mass destruction and to announce that if the current trend continues they will be forced to restart production and deployment of our own weapons.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2003-12-24 06:15pm

And what, then, of the Azegart? the Alliance's efforts in pacifying have not beeen completely successful. There is no evidence that the Affront, a small nation of limited power compared to our own great powers, can in any way restrain the massive Azegart Empire.

"Our power is equal to your own. You would do well not to prattle on about things that you know nothing about."

(OOC: The Affront really are on a par with the galaxy at large.)

The Affronter General was furious, to be called a weakling was a mortal insult to an Affront. His tentacles coiled in rage though he struggled to suppress that.

As for the Azegart, we have the word of one we can trust and who can command their loyalty. That is all we'll say and all that needs to be said unless you wish to question our word.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 06:20pm

My friend, you are spread thin, should the Azegart revolt you will not be able to hold your territory. The Affront have offered to lift some of the burden. They command our respect, and are a people that keeps their word. It would be wise to trust them in this.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 06:24pm

On the contrary, the Commonwealth is strong. Piracy in the Azegart territories is at an all-time low. Coalition fleets fly unopposed, and rioting and dissonance has nearly ceased.

With the freeing of large portions of our fleet from protecting holdings in Aquarian space, the Azegart region can be garrisoned even more effectively.

With over a billion Commonwealth soldiers and more than a third the Commonwealth fleet present, in addition to Outworld Alliance, Krytos, and Stuartian forces, the Azegart Empire is very well garrisoned, and could probably stand a foreign invasion, much less an uprising.

We once again question the wisdom of abandoning the defensive military Alliance.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 06:25pm

*Deep space listening post*

We are picking up a lot of Alliance traffic... Something about a shipyard...

Notify the Union

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 06:32pm

My friend, you are spread thin, should the Azegart revolt you will not be able to hold your territory. The Affront have offered to lift some of the burden. They command our respect, and are a people that keeps their word. It would be wise to trust them in this.

On the contrary, the Commonwealth is strong. Piracy in the Azegart territories is at an all-time low. Coalition fleets fly unopposed, and rioting and dissonance has nearly ceased.

With the freeing of large portions of our fleet from protecting holdings in Aquarian space, the Azegart region can be garrisoned even more effectively.

With over a billion Commonwealth soldiers and more than a third the Commonwealth fleet present, in addition to Outworld Alliance, Krytos, and Stuartian forces, the Azegart Empire is very well garrisoned, and could probably stand a foreign invasion, much less an uprising.

We once again question the wisdom of abandoning the defensive military Alliance.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 06:35pm

Thirdfain wrote:On the contrary, the Commonwealth is strong. Piracy in the Azegart territories is at an all-time low. Coalition fleets fly unopposed, and rioting and dissonance has nearly ceased.

With the freeing of large portions of our fleet from protecting holdings in Aquarian space, the Azegart region can be garrisoned even more effectively.

We once again question the wisdom of abandoning the defensive military Alliance.

I suppose another reason, is because we have been at war for 200 years, and simply wish to be more or less independant. He still have allies that will come to our aid if need be, but then again. We simply want to get the last few months behind us as well. It is time for us to leave the kelp nest...

On the Azegart matter, at this point, that is between ou, the Azegart, and the Affront. We will extend diplomatic recognition to it either way.

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 06:37pm

I suppose another reason, is because we have been at war for 200 years, and simply wish to be more or less independant. He still have allies that will come to our aid if need be, but then again. We simply want to get the last few months behind us as well. It is time for us to leave the kelp nest...

On the Azegart matter, at this point, that is between ou, the Azegart, and the Affront. We will extend diplomatic recognition to it either way.

The Affront have nothing to do with the Azegart situation. The remaining nations of the Grand Alliance will continue their duties. The Azegart can not, at this point, be allowed to run free.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2003-12-24 06:39pm

The Corsair Republic condemns the Aquarian Union for it's support in returning a nation of psychopathic xenophobes to space. It does not surprise the Republic that such a weak nation would scurry under the skirts of the Affront, and support this action out of little more than toadying.

We must ask if the Aquarian Union is taking leave of their senses. A nation with almost no human citizens supporting a nation which openly called for the death of nonhumans? Or is there some threat held over you?

Thirdfain · Post by **Thirdfain** » 2003-12-24 06:44pm

-: MILTARY ENCRYPTION IMBICILIC/4 (not shared with GA powers) :-

FROM: President Von Braun (CNV Ashkaga, UTR)
TO: Agency of Internal and External Affairs (Desjardins)
SUBJ: Aquarian Union

-::-

Reconvene operations in the Union. Pay special attention to their communications with the Affront. Make every effort to determine whether or not they are being manipulated externally. Begin intrusion efforts against the Affront, their motivations muct be exposed.

Deep-cover operatives in the Azegart Empire are to remain in position, and begin preparations.

All military and diplomatic codes shared with the GA are to be used only on messages you expect to be compromised..

-: ENDTRANSMISSION :-

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2003-12-24 06:47pm

SirNitram wrote:The Corsair Republic condemns the Aquarian Union for it's support in returning a nation of psychopathic xenophobes to space. It does not surprise the Republic that such a weak nation would scurry under the skirts of the Affront, and support this action out of little more than toadying.

We must ask if the Aquarian Union is taking leave of their senses. A nation with almost no human citizens supporting a nation which openly called for the death of nonhumans? Or is there some threat held over you?

We are in full support of our sense. The Azegart have paid for their crimes. The cure for bigotry, is education and kindness. If a xenophobic people is supported by aliens, it may give them cause to be decent humanoids. Another reason, is that a fully alien "director" will have the same effect, by building up a certain level of trust.

Besides, the Azegart are in no position to be harming anyone.