More Racist Bullshit From Israel

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2003-12-26 02:49pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote: 2.) Fucking pussy? Tell that to the lady who lost her father and all her sisters in a Romanian concentration camp. The same one who fled to Siberia to escape Nazi persecution. At least these immigrant workers still have the rest of their rights, and before you ask how I know, it's because I talked with them this summer. I joked with them. They told me how Thailand was.

And can you not see the fucking parallels to the early steps the third reich took against the jewish in this?
If not you're just a fucking moron.
A lot of people died in the holocaust, which is a good reason to be very very fucking wary of anyone skipping down the same sort of road as led there....

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-12-26 03:02pm

Xenophobe3691 wrote:
kojikun wrote:And I say you shut the fuck up and see the comment for what it is: A jab at Israel, a suggestion for continuing with the obviously Nazi-like tendencies various groups are in the country are supporting. It was fucking sarcasm to make even more obvious the kind of actions being taken. Stop being a fucking pussy.
2.) Fucking pussy? Tell that to the lady who lost her father and all her sisters in a Romanian concentration camp. The same one who fled to Siberia to escape Nazi persecution.

He wasn't calling her a fucking pussy; he was calling you a fucking pussy.

At least these immigrant workers still have the rest of their rights, and before you ask how I know, it's because I talked with them this summer. I joked with them. They told me how Thailand was.

Ah, I believe this is the "A is not bad because B is even worse" argument

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-12-26 03:12pm

Ah, more bullshit from Israel. God bless the true 51st state, er, I mean the Jewish nation. Glad to see hypocrisy is their #1 export.

dummnutzer · Post by **dummnutzer** » 2003-12-26 09:23pm

Newtonian Fury wrote:Let's take a look at some stuff from Nazi Germany..

Comparing Israel with the pre-Wannsee Third Reich seems unfair, as Israel still offers constitutional protection to its citizens (at least to the non-arab ones), while the Ermächtigungsgesetz had suspended civic rights in Germany for everybody.

Israel looks more like an Apartheid-era South Africa IMHO. As a white South African/Israeli, Your rights are largely respected by the state and You are allowed to vote etc., unless You show sympathies for the black Africans/Palestinians, which will mark You as an enemy of the state and unleash the full power of repression.

It is tragic, that defending Israel today meens "only" equating it with racist South Africa ...

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-12-27 08:12am

Xenophobe3691 wrote:
salm wrote:hmm... i suggest that they force the chinese to wear a big and visible yellow star from the chinese flag on their chests...
I say you shut the fuck up, I lost family in the Holocaust.

your loss is sad but irrelevant for this thread.
i´m comparing the fucks from that company to the nazis because they´re doing pretty much the same thing as the supporters of the rassengesetze did.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2003-12-27 08:17am

The sad thing is that you can't critize Israel's policy for what it is (at least as a German), since then you're obviously anti-Semitic and are a closet-Nazi...

salm · Post by **salm** » 2003-12-27 08:24am

salm wrote:
Xenophobe3691 wrote:
salm wrote:hmm... i suggest that they force the chinese to wear a big and visible yellow star from the chinese flag on their chests...
I say you shut the fuck up, I lost family in the Holocaust.

your loss is sad but irrelevant for this thread.
i´m comparing the fucks from that company to the nazis because they´re doing pretty much the same thing as the supporters of the rassengesetze did.
anyway, esspecially BECAUSE you and many, many other people lost relatives in KZs it´s important to point it out when crap like that happens again even if it´s on a much smaller scale.

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-12-27 05:14pm

kojikun wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:It is not only cultural. Since US Immigration is strict only very best end in America. Thats why there are so many highly educated immigrants out there.
Never been to south Florida, clearly.

I think he was referring to legal immigrants.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2003-12-27 06:11pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:I think he was referring to legal immigrants.

AND I WASN'T?

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2003-12-27 11:59pm

StormTrooperTR889 wrote: I think he was referring to legal immigrants.

Obviously you've never been to South Florida, or else you wouldn't be making that distinction. Surprisingly, the illegal immigrants have more drive...

Defiant · Post by **Defiant** » 2003-12-28 12:15am

dummnutzer wrote:Comparing Israel with the pre-Wannsee Third Reich seems unfair, as Israel still offers constitutional protection to its citizens (at least to the non-arab ones), while the Ermächtigungsgesetz had suspended civic rights in Germany for everybody.

Give them time.

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-12-28 11:38am

Darth Wong wrote:But in Israel, they have no Bill of Rights, and no constitutional guarantees against discrimination based on religion or race. They can't, because Israel is explicitly defined as a "Jewish state". This would be tantamount to the American Constitution stating explicitly that it is a WASP state.

Uh, we do have something amounting to a guarantee, in our decelration of independence, theres a little line that says something about that.

Most likely im wrong, but what if they are doing it, is because there are around 150000 illegel chinese and asian's living here, taking jobs from people who LEGELLY live here, and MAYBE someone wants people who pay tax's and etc. to have a chance at those jobs.

It may be taking things too far, but try and think about it from this side, that these illegel workers are stealing jobs here, and what would you say about that where you live, I don't notice the U.S working well with illegel mexican immigrants.

XenoPhobe your not the only one here who lost family, but again, don't blow it out of proportion.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2003-12-28 12:11pm

Ace Pace wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:But in Israel, they have no Bill of Rights, and no constitutional guarantees against discrimination based on religion or race. They can't, because Israel is explicitly defined as a "Jewish state". This would be tantamount to the American Constitution stating explicitly that it is a WASP state.
Uh, we do have something amounting to a guarantee, in our decelration of independence, theres a little line that says something about that.

Wrong.

1. The declaration of independence is not legally binding.

2. The declaration of independence says they wish equality for all their citizens while simultaneously stating clearly that Israel is for the "Jewish people". Classic case of salesmanship bullshit, trying to sell two contradictory things at the same time.

3. The point remains that Israel has no formal constitution, no formal charter or bill of rights, and its laws do not reflect this nonexistent guarantee of racial and religious equality of which you speak.

Most likely im wrong, but what if they are doing it, is because there are around 150000 illegel chinese and asian's living here, taking jobs from people who LEGELLY live here, and MAYBE someone wants people who pay tax's and etc. to have a chance at those jobs.

Irrelevant. We're not talking about labour laws; we're talking about human rights, dumb-ass.

It may be taking things too far, but try and think about it from this side, that these illegel workers are stealing jobs here, and what would you say about that where you live, I don't notice the U.S working well with illegel mexican immigrants.

And yet, the Americans don't have laws prohibiting illegal immigrants from romancing and marrying locals. In fact, an illegal immigrant who marries a local will become a legal immigrant by virtue of doing so. Try again, racist asshole.

*waits for the inevitable protestations of "how dare you call me a racist" even though you are defending a racist policy*

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2003-12-28 01:21pm

Hmn, left me with one thing to say:

2. The declaration of independence says they wish equality for all their citizens while simultaneously stating clearly that Israel is for the "Jewish people". Classic case of salesmanship bullshit, trying to sell two contradictory things at the same time.

Maybe this will make people feel better, because thankfully we got some real liberal, anti religon control over goverment and etc. who are making some headways, first thing on agenda Civil marriges, they allready got stuff for some of the racist stuff, such as the right to return.

From your POV, does this count as protestation against you calling me racist?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2003-12-28 06:45pm

Note: I am half-Jewish
Note: As per the hardliners in charge of Isreal I don't count either, but they still try to recruit me.

Isreal has shown it's self to be a fascist, and racist nation, time and time again. (Affilations with South Africa during aparthied, civilrights violations, pursuing wars of aggression) and their primary defense has been to call up the "Guilt Card". Irony factor is they have had formalized trade with countries SHELTERING and PROTECTING Nazi War Criminals!

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2003-12-29 04:33am

[quote = "Darth Wong]And yet, the Americans don't have laws prohibiting illegal immigrants from romancing and marrying locals. In fact, an illegal immigrant who marries a local will become a legal immigrant by virtue of doing so. Try again, racist asshole.
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IIRC an illegeal immigrant does not immedietly become a US citizen. They get the green card which permits them to legaly stay and work in the US. After five years they get full citizenship.