A Hypothetical Question

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 12:49am

ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??

The Cleric · Post by **The Cleric** » 2003-12-29 12:51am

Hypothetically, yes, as it is performed by an hypothetical orchestra. But hypotheitically, your hypothetical chances of getting hypothetically caught are hypothetically low. Hypothetically.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2003-12-29 12:54am

This is stupid, hypothetically of course.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 12:54am

StormTrooperTR889 wrote:Hypothetically, yes, as it is performed by an hypothetical orchestra. But hypotheitically, your hypothetical chances of getting hypothetically caught are hypothetically low. Hypothetically.

ok because hypothetically I figured since the dude is dead and all of his stuff was created before the RIAA existed and he was foreign Hypothetically I figured it was a safer bet than hypothetically dl some Ozzy or something similar

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 12:59am

Gandalf wrote:This is stupid, hypothetically of course.

and with all due hypothetical respepect shhhhhhh

j/k

AnimeJet · Post by **AnimeJet** » 2003-12-29 01:11am

This makes my head hurt.. the word "hypothetically" now has no meaning to me..

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-12-29 01:13am

You have a lot less to worry about.

See?

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2003-12-29 02:38am

DP that is the most wonderful present I've gotten for christmas...right after the new comp and Russell, but its up there.
You make me want to kiss your the subject of your avatar.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 02:42am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:You have a lot less to worry about.

See?

YEAH!!!! SWEEEET!!!!! hypothetically of course

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2003-12-29 01:52pm

Hypothetically, you should move to Canada.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2003-12-29 02:06pm

aerius wrote:Hypothetically, you should move to Canada.

And hypothetically touching yourself at night.

[size=0]Could`nt resist i had to say it[/size]

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 02:49pm

aerius wrote:Hypothetically, you should move to Canada.

yeah I should...........hypothetically.....

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-12-29 03:20pm

Hypothetically I might just smack the next person who says hypothetically upside their hypothetical head

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2003-12-29 03:27pm

well, beethoven i believe is considered public domain by now. considering how old his works are. though if it's something more modern then i wouldn't get your hopes up. course the only way for someone else to figure out what you have on your hard drive (that i'm aware of) is if you set your file sharing option to share. of course that will make people less likely to share other files with you if you aren't sharing.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-12-29 03:32pm

Darth_Zod wrote:well, beethoven i believe is considered public domain by now. considering how old his works are. though if it's something more modern then i wouldn't get your hopes up. course the only way for someone else to figure out what you have on your hard drive (that i'm aware of) is if you set your file sharing option to share. of course that will make people less likely to share other files with you if you aren't sharing.

The songs themselves (as originally composed and arranged by Beethoven) are public domain...however the arrangemtn and performance by modern orchestras are NOT in the public domain. basically once you take a piece of music and perform it (especially if you arrange it even slightly different than it originally appeared) then the new arrangement can be copyrighted to you.

GrandMasterTerwynn · Post by **GrandMasterTerwynn** » 2003-12-29 05:05pm

russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??

Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.

Soontir C'boath · Post by **Soontir C'boath** » 2003-12-29 05:11pm

GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??
Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.

And that's if you download those new versions and not the original variant itself.

~Jason

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-12-29 06:52pm

Soontir C'boath wrote:
GrandMasterTerwynn wrote:
russellb6666 wrote:ok Hypathetically if some one had Kazaa and Hypothetically wanted to dl some Beethoven could said person hypothetically get in any trouble??
Yes. Beethoven might just be sheet music, but the modern performer can copyright their particular arrangement. So yes, it is still quite illegal in the United States and in some places in Europe.
And that's if you download those new versions and not the original variant itself. ~Jason

Well unless you have a file of a performance more than 100 years old then the perfomrance ITSELF is copyrighted material of the performer. In other words there is no such file out there.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 06:59pm

ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2003-12-29 06:59pm

SyntaxVorlon wrote:DP that is the most wonderful present I've gotten for christmas...right after the new comp and Russell, but its up there.

Then you owe me.

You make me want to kiss your the subject of your avatar.

She's mine. Back off.

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-12-29 07:12pm

russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it

The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which rleased the classical music CD/ The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.

russellb6666 · Post by **russellb6666** » 2003-12-29 08:25pm

CmdrWilkens wrote:
russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it
The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which rleased the classical music CD/ The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.

ok that sounds reasonable.....but what does a 2nd Violinist make off CD sales??

CmdrWilkens · Post by **CmdrWilkens** » 2003-12-29 11:54pm

russellb6666 wrote:
CmdrWilkens wrote:
russellb6666 wrote:ok new question if someone were to purchase a classical music CD would the cash from said CD help the RIAA or simpley go to the orchestra or group that performed it. Because I don't want to give any money to those RIAA facist fucktard asswipes but I wouldn't mind it going towards someone who deserves it
The money would go to the retailer you bought the durn CD from. That retailer has already sent money to the record company which released the classical music CD. The record company then pays out a portion fo the proceeds from sales to the orchestra (as determiend by their contractual arrangement) and then uses the rest for its own internal puposes. Those include slaries, promotion AND RIAA fees. So yes a SMALL percentage (probably about as much as what the 2nd Violinist would make off of the CD sale) goes to the RIAA.
ok that sounds reasonable.....but what does a 2nd Violinist make off CD sales??

Something between jack and shit. In a full symphony orchestra the 2nd Violin is actually a pretty big role (its the key voice of harmony versus the melody of the 1st Violin section) anyway the person filling those shoes is likely to be a salaried member of the orchestra and thus unless they are genous just gets to keep his salary (part of which might be paid for out of CD sales proceeds).

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