Speculative Trek Weaponry

[Patrick Degan]

So far, everything I've seen revolves around ridiculous technobabble. The best sort of weapon would be one based on raw firepower —lots of it.

Think a simple, large antimatter cannon. You have a reaction chamber with a focussing cone forming the firing conduit. Bring 10kg of matter and antimatter together in collision. The result would an energy beam packing a 200MT wallop.

Simple, and devestatingly effective.

[Alyeska]

Hit both times by the tractor beam which it could easily disable if it wanted to (it did just that when one grabbed the Defiant), it was also heading away from the Cube and in a battle with so many ships, chances are it could drop it's shields for the few moments it needed to get the Defiant crew out.

The Cube has multiple tractor beams if you hadn't noticed. Any hit on the hull could be potentinally dangerous and cause far more harm then beaming up less then 50 people from the Defiant.

It was a combat situation in which shields are the most logical thing AND there is no order or comment about shields. Look at Way of the Warrior in which lowering shields became a really big thing and the crew had to comment on before they did it.

[Knife]

The best weapon Startrek could have using rare but on screen evidence is ........A Compendent and Combat Trained officer corps. They would win alot more and a lot quicker that way instead of using shall we say uniqe and one time solutions.

Almost like Benjamin Maxwell.

Of the phenoix right? He was dumb and kept beaming over to another ship where he could and did get arrested. Not to mention the fact that he lacked the creditbility to convince his superiours that the Cards were up to something and he was in gross insubordination by going rouge.
No, I me a seperation of this moronic idea that explores and military are one in the same. A dedicated officer corps. with the ships necassary to acomplish a military campaign and another officer corps. for the exploritory missions. Not saying the military should shoot everything it comes across, but they should focus on defence of the Feds.

[Evil Jerk]

Hit both times by the tractor beam which it could easily disable if it wanted to (it did just that when one grabbed the Defiant), it was also heading away from the Cube and in a battle with so many ships, chances are it could drop it's shields for the few moments it needed to get the Defiant crew out.

The Cube has multiple tractor beams if you hadn't noticed. Any hit on the hull could be potentinally dangerous and cause far more harm then beaming up less then 50 people from the Defiant.

Which they seemed to fire one at a time, and why would a tractor beam damage the E-E to such a degree?

It was a combat situation in which shields are the most logical thing AND there is no order or comment about shields. Look at Way of the Warrior in which lowering shields became a really big thing and the crew had to comment on before they did it.

In WotW, the Defiant was one of two targets in very close range and it had to drop it's shields down for longer, in FC the Enterprise didn't have to drop it's shields for that long and was one of many targets of a vessel that could at most fire one tractor beam and one weapon at any given ship at a time. I call those good odds.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

So far, everything I've seen revolves around ridiculous technobabble. The best sort of weapon would be one based on raw firepower —lots of it.

Think a simple, large antimatter cannon. You have a reaction chamber with a focussing cone forming the firing conduit. Bring 10kg of matter and antimatter together in collision. The result would an energy beam packing a 200MT wallop.

Simple, and devestatingly effective.

Ridiculous technobabble is just par for the course when dealing with Trek... I would have thought you knew that already. But that is an excellent weapon idea.

What about a combination of the best ideas so far? Hmm. A gatling cannon that fires warp field-jacketed antimatter charges...

[Master of Ossus]

I think we should use a semi-subspace microtransporter, like the one on Ezri's modified TR-116 to fire quantum torpedoes through the shields of other enemy ships and blow up their warp cores from thousands of lightyears away.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

I think we should use a semi-subspace microtransporter, like the one on Ezri's modified TR-116 to fire quantum torpedoes through the shields of other enemy ships and blow up their warp cores from thousands of lightyears away.

Uh... transphasic torpedoes, in other words? Been done. (But not for another 20+ years into the Voyager-era future...)

[Master of Ossus]

I think we should use a semi-subspace microtransporter, like the one on Ezri's modified TR-116 to fire quantum torpedoes through the shields of other enemy ships and blow up their warp cores from thousands of lightyears away.

Uh... transphasic torpedoes, in other words? Been done. (But not for another 20+ years into the Voyager-era future...)

Hardly. We wouldn't even need to fire these things conventionally. All we'd have to do is beam them into someone else's warp core. And I want lightyears of range.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

I think we should use a semi-subspace microtransporter, like the one on Ezri's modified TR-116 to fire quantum torpedoes through the shields of other enemy ships and blow up their warp cores from thousands of lightyears away.

Uh... transphasic torpedoes, in other words? Been done. (But not for another 20+ years into the Voyager-era future...)

Hardly. We wouldn't even need to fire these things conventionally. All we'd have to do is beam them into someone else's warp core. And I want lightyears of range.

I've got it! Cheeseporters! Behold the power of Cheese...

[Typhonis 1]

The Omega particle destroys or damages subspace mostly in sucxh a way that Warp travel is impossible...man if the Imps got the hands on it.I hope I didnt give Stravo an idea for his foic

[EmperorMing]

Let's see;

A gattling photon launcher (someone suggested it earlier...)

A tractor-Repulsor beam (ala SFB Andors-alternating attraction-repulsion in the same beam, shakes the target to peices)

A mine that makes an artificial gravity well/hypermass/blackhole. Trigger it and get sucked in.

And for the ground forces, something simple: Transporter artillery. (thanx again to SFB for that one)

How about a kinetic energy missle? no warhead; just rams you at lightspeed. Simple physics does the work for you.

[EmperorMing]

Oh, what the heck. Spinal mount weapon of your choice.

[Ted C]

If you were a Starfleet research scientist tasked with developing new weaponry based on existing Federation technology, what could you come up with?

My first idea: Soliton Wave Cannon. -- it fires a focused Soliton Wave at enemy ships (or battlestations, lol) accelerating a portion of the target to FTL speeds, essentially tearing the target to pieces.

I would use the dimensional inverter technology from TNG's "The High Ground" to transport explosives to enemy ships. I'm not sure what the range is, but it was possible for Rutian terrorists on the planet's surface to insert agents virtually at will onto the Enterprise in locations of their choosing, even though the shields were up. Using the device was unhealthy for humans in the long term, but there were no evident harmful effects on devices.

I would also utilize the long-range subspace transporter technology seen in "Bloodlines" to deliver torpedoes. This, too, penetrated shields without difficulty. It was able to place a Ferengi in Captain Picard's quarters and Picard on the Ferengi bridge from millions of kilometers away, so it has high accuracy, as well.

[Slartibartfast]

Transport of Picard to the surface of the planet in Generations and the transport of the crew of the Defiant in First Contact.

And they couldn't lower their shields for a few moments because..?

Um, gee, I think I can field this question. Your short answer: They didn't want to be [Arnold Voice]terminated.[/Arnold Voice]

The Enterprise wasn't engaged in battle at the time of both examples. (they were actually exchanging prisoners with the Klingons in Generations, and they had just arrived to the Borg battlezone in First Contact)

[Alyeska]

The Enterprise wasn't engaged in battle at the time of both examples. (they were actually exchanging prisoners with the Klingons in Generations, and they had just arrived to the Borg battlezone in First Contact)

I already address the issue of the Generations example and admited that I was mistake in it.

[TheDarkling]

Ted C: Both of the devices you describe are the same principle but with some differences in application (it was Billions of KM by the way).

I would agree that the Subtrans is the best experimental weapon that could be put into use but then what else was I going to say?

[Isolder74]

Let's see;

A gattling photon launcher (someone suggested it earlier...)

That would be me!

A tractor-Repulsor beam (ala SFB Andors-alternating attraction-repulsion in the same beam, shakes the target to peices)

Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

A mine that makes an artificial gravity well/hypermass/blackhole. Trigger it and get sucked in.

Ouch! Your merciless

And for the ground forces, something simple: Transporter artillery. (thanx again to SFB for that one)

Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

How about a kinetic energy missle? no warhead; just rams you at lightspeed. Simple physics does the work for you.

Yes, but adding a warhead makes it much worse. A 200 kg object at c has KE of(ignoring Relitivity cause i don't have time to do the calcs) = 9 x 10^18 Joules add a warhead with 20 kg of anti-matter gets you and extra 3.6 x10^18 Joules.

[kojikun]

I know what would be really useful. A gun that uses actual bullets, and officer training that teaches them to AIM FOR THE FUCKING HEAD

[Grand Admiral Thrawn]

Didn't catch that scene... but it's my recollection that the thing is so dangerous that nobody other than flag-rank officers even knows it exists... if punching holes in things is all it's supposed to do, that wouldn't make any damn sense. I'm almost sure it's supposed to have been more dangerous than that.

Nope. It only blew a chunk out of a Regula type station.


The true danger is the warp killing effect. One molocule made warp impossible for lightyears.

[Anarchist Bunny]

Some sort of missle deployment system that hits the opposing ship with pure antimatter, uses a part of the other ship as the catalyst for an explosion.

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Some sort of missle deployment system that hits the opposing ship with pure antimatter, uses a part of the other ship as the catalyst for an explosion.

Think that would work against shields? Could work... the reaction could conceivably use the shields themselves as the catalyst and "consume" them...

[Isolder74]

Some sort of missle deployment system that hits the opposing ship with pure antimatter, uses a part of the other ship as the catalyst for an explosion.

Think that would work against shields? Could work... the reaction could conceivably use the shields themselves as the catalyst and "consume" them...

not if its a pure energy shield

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

Some sort of missle deployment system that hits the opposing ship with pure antimatter, uses a part of the other ship as the catalyst for an explosion.

Think that would work against shields? Could work... the reaction could conceivably use the shields themselves as the catalyst and "consume" them...

not if its a pure energy shield

Why not? Define "pure energy", please. Electrons? A positron is the antimatter equivalent, if I'm not mistaken.

[Isolder74]

Think that would work against shields? Could work... the reaction could conceivably use the shields themselves as the catalyst and "consume" them...

not if its a pure energy shield

Why not? Define "pure energy", please. Electrons? A positron is the antimatter equivalent, if I'm not mistaken.

Magnetic or electric field

[Raoul Duke, Jr.]

not if its a pure energy shield

Why not? Define "pure energy", please. Electrons? A positron is the antimatter equivalent, if I'm not mistaken.

Magnetic or electric field

Okay, magnetic field, no reaction. But electric, yes. Remember, electic fields are fields of electrons (or so I assume) and electrons will react with anielectrons, or positrons.