A 9-11 Widow's unanswered questions...

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-01-03 02:55am

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-01-03 03:59am

This widow's "open letter" is nothing more than a summary of every Sept. 11 conspiracy theory carefully linked together with a lot of supposition and innuendo.

I doubt one woman put this altogether, and its mostly bunk. Here's a sample question:

Why did WTC7 fall even though no plane hit it?

A building fell on it, that's why.

CaptainChewbacca · Post by **CaptainChewbacca** » 2004-01-03 04:02am

Also, she even challenges the notion that a plane hit the Pentagon at all.

Look at pictures, however, and it’s hard to believe that a Boeing 757 flew into the Pentagon. The damage is not in proportion to the claim, especially when one considers that two Boeing 757s are said to have taken down three skyscrapers. The Pentagon was dented, the plane evaporated.

The WTC towers weren't reinforced with six inches of steel plate on each wall, giving about 3 feet of solid steel to absorb the impact.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-03 04:16am

This thread should be subtitled: Or Blkbrry Exposes His Stupidity.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-03 04:20am

The firefighters who were in the two towers were not in the least concerned about a collapse, as demonstrated in the fire department’s transcript of their radio traffic. In fact, they stated that the fires were dying out and could be extinguished with just a couple of lines of hose. Jet fuel burns like kerosene or charcoal fluid–quickly and completely–yet Ground Zero burned for 100 days.

The idea of rigging the buildings for a controlled demolition was dismissed as unrealistic by even the most suspicious types. How to gain access? Well, President Bush’s other brother, Marvin, had a security company covering the World Trade Center, Dulles International Airport and United Airlines.

Just read some of this garbage.

Hm, maybe modern buildings have more flammables than jet fuel? Maybe it takes longer than minutes to rig a building for controlled demolition?

Fucking morons, the whole of them.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-03 04:21am

Maybe fires smolder when they don't have limitless oxygen supply?

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-01-03 04:25am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Many interesting questions and points.

You have subscribed to this nonsense? I deal with shit everytime I visit the yahoo political chat lobbys and the bullshit is all the same. Captain Chewbacca put it best though.....

h0rus · Post by **h0rus** » 2004-01-03 04:32am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Many interesting questions and points.

"Where are the "black boxes" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?

Where are the "voice recorders" from Flight 11 and Flight 175?"

"Why were the planes up in the air for so long? And why did they fly over so many military bases? Was America’s defense team on a crack break, or was it a National Reconnaissance Office exercise, a wargame that involved hijacked aircraft being splashed into buildings in New York and DC? The two that took the towers flew within spitting distance of the Indian Point nuclear reactor facility."

"Condoleezza Rice’s preposterous May 16, 2002, statement that no one could have foreseen this scenario was particularly ironic given that Pacifica Radio identified her that day as the source of San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown’s "airport security" call warning him not to fly on Black Tuesday."

One thing I'm wondering, is why did the FBI hold out on the blackbox stuff for so long, citing security issues as a reason to deny it?

h0rus · Post by **h0rus** » 2004-01-03 04:34am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:This thread should be subtitled: Or Blkbrry Exposes His Stupidity.

Right. Nice contribution, asshole.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-03 04:46am

h0rus wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:This thread should be subtitled: Or Blkbrry Exposes His Stupidity.
Right. Nice contribution, asshole.

If you buy this conspiracy shit or deem it worthy of anything but laughter you deserve to be held up as an idiot and mocked.

Frank Hipper · Post by **Frank Hipper** » 2004-01-03 04:56am

I enjoy how they paint the look on Bush's face on recieving news of the attack as some kind of evidence for this shit.
Ridiculous.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-03 05:02am

Illuminatus Primus wrote:
h0rus wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:This thread should be subtitled: Or Blkbrry Exposes His Stupidity.
Right. Nice contribution, asshole.
If you buy this conspiracy shit or deem it worthy of anything but laughter you deserve to be held up as an idiot and mocked.

Now, now, there's no reason not to read it. Sure, most of it is crap, but there are a few nuggets of truth in there (although most have already been pointed out by others).

I really don't see why you are knocking Blkbrry for bringing this to our attention, even if most of it is wrong. It's a valid news item and there are a few worthwhile points in there (strangely, they have left out much more critical evidence such as the FBI report about the aviation students and such) and Blkbrry simply said "Many interesting questions and points" which isn't a ringing endosrement of the validity of the material.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-03 05:04am

LOL. You think *that's* bad? Try this exercise in propaganda (all of this guys flash animations are great internet propaganda, the extreme internet lefties seem to be masters of it)

Bullshit conspriacy theory retold in entertaining flash format

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-01-03 05:22am

Frank Hipper wrote:I enjoy how they paint the look on Bush's face on recieving news of the attack as some kind of evidence for this shit.
Ridiculous.

LOL yeah it's great isn't it?

I remember an arguement I had against someone for that very same scene. I asked him, who heard the president say that? The answer was "what else would it have been?" Well damn he is the leader of a fucking country!

LOL priceless....

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-01-03 05:25am

The Kernel wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:
h0rus wrote: Right. Nice contribution, asshole.
If you buy this conspiracy shit or deem it worthy of anything but laughter you deserve to be held up as an idiot and mocked.
Now, now, there's no reason not to read it. Sure, most of it is crap, but there are a few nuggets of truth in there (although most have already been pointed out by others).

I really don't see why you are knocking Blkbrry for bringing this to our attention, even if most of it is wrong. It's a valid news item and there are a few worthwhile points in there (strangely, they have left out much more critical evidence such as the FBI report about the aviation students and such) and Blkbrry simply said "Many interesting questions and points" which isn't a ringing endosrement of the validity of the material.

It's really hard not to be insulted by this article.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-03 05:45am

Kamakazie Sith wrote: It's really hard not to be insulted by this article.

Well, I'm not insulted anymore then I would be insulted by reading UFO abduction conspriacy theories. It's not like anyone's going to take her more outrageous claims seriously anyways.

My point was that Blkbrry just brought this article to our attention, he didn't sign his name verifying it as accurate so calling him stupid for posting it is hardly warranted.

Dooey Jo · Post by **Dooey Jo** » 2004-01-03 07:01am

What are they suggesting? That it was a rigged demolition of WTC? That's almost as absurd as the Lunar Loonies weird theories on why man has never walked on the moon. What kind of crazy person would demolish a building by making the top of it fall down on the rest?

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-01-03 10:03am

This crap is taken from the greatest of all TIN FOIL hat sites.... DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND

same shit different day for those nut cases and I guess we can add Blkbrry to the list....

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-03 11:27am

Vympel wrote:LOL. You think *that's* bad? Try this exercise in propaganda (all of this guys flash animations are great internet propaganda, the extreme internet lefties seem to be masters of it)

Bullshit conspriacy theory retold in entertaining flash format

I think the "Buddy Buddy with Mohammad Atta" is what makes the movie.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-01-03 11:55am

I'll eat my hat if this was written without help. She's taken a bunch of conspiracy theories and stuck them together without and real evidence. Idiot.

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-01-03 12:10pm

This about sums it up:

In late 2002, the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States–now known popularly as the "9/11 Commission"–was reluctantly created, in large part due to the efforts of the widow Breitweiser. The commission’s object is not so much to get the facts straight, but to assign blame for "shortcomings" and "failures" in the bureaucracy. It’s what is known in intelligence circles as a "limited hang-out."

HemlockGrey · Post by **HemlockGrey** » 2004-01-03 12:12pm

The internet is boiling with analyses of the 9/11 event. In Europe, a fair number of people believe the American government was complicit in the attacks. According to recent polls, one-third of young Germans believe this.

Wow, that's almost as bad as the whole "Americans can't find Iraq on the map" thing.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-01-03 12:16pm

Hahha stupid moron, it was all the evil jews' fault, and the Mossad
secretly set up those bombs to collapse the WTC

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-01-03 12:23pm

MKSheppard wrote:Hahha stupid moron, it was all the evil jews' fault, and the Mossad
secretly set up those bombs to collapse the WTC

Everybody knows it's the Jews who run the world. They're the ones that blew up the WTC, hoaxed the moon landing, killed JFK, planned the attack on Pearl Harbor, and made the milk that I bought last week go bad before its exporation date.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-01-03 12:25pm

HemlockGrey wrote:
The internet is boiling with analyses of the 9/11 event. In Europe, a fair number of people believe the American government was complicit in the attacks. According to recent polls, one-third of young Germans believe this.
Wow, that's almost as bad as the whole "Americans can't find Iraq on the map" thing.

Actually, I would be very surprised if the average American could find Iraq on a map whose captions had been removed. But that has nothing to do with these moronic conspiracy theories.

I don't see why it should come as a shock, though. The same population that's willing to believe Pearl Harbour was a conspiracy, that's willing to believe the US government is holding a flying saucer at Roswell, that's willing to believe that 99.9% of the world's scientists are engaged in a cover-up of geological, astrophysical, and biological facts in order to promote evolution theory even though it's just made up by a secular New World Order and has no validity, and that watches Fox TV is amenable to this kind of stupidity.

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