A Star Wars ship in place on Voyager

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-02 04:00pm

What is the smallest SW ship that could survive in voyager's place? Eliminate the hyperdrive and replace it with a warp drive. Could a blockade runner do it? How about a Nebulon B frigate?

Now obviously things would change such as how much the Borg would be interested in the ship. What SW captain would be the best one to be on the ship. Any SW ship and captain. No force users (complicates things too much)

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-01-02 04:18pm

Techno_Union wrote:What is the smallest SW ship that could survive in voyager's place? Eliminate the hyperdrive and replace it with a warp drive. Could a blockade runner do it? How about a Nebulon B frigate?

How do you replace it with a warp drive, since that would entail a massive redesign of the ship?

Now obviously things would change such as how much the Borg would be interested in the ship. What SW captain would be the best one to be on the ship. Any SW ship and captain. No force users (complicates things too much)

Since it's already stranded in an alien galaxy, why would it even bother trying to leave the Delta Quadrant? They would only have a finite amount of time before they run out of fuel and other consumables, after which they'd have to set down somewhere.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-01-02 04:50pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Techno_Union wrote:What is the smallest SW ship that could survive in voyager's place? Eliminate the hyperdrive and replace it with a warp drive. Could a blockade runner do it? How about a Nebulon B frigate?
How do you replace it with a warp drive, since that would entail a massive redesign of the ship?
Now obviously things would change such as how much the Borg would be interested in the ship. What SW captain would be the best one to be on the ship. Any SW ship and captain. No force users (complicates things too much)
Since it's already stranded in an alien galaxy, why would it even bother trying to leave the Delta Quadrant? They would only have a finite amount of time before they run out of fuel and other consumables, after which they'd have to set down somewhere.

Well i geuss it wouldn't change the scenario if the hyper drive was just limited to warp speed.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-02 04:50pm

Very true. A redesign of the question is in order. What would be the smallest SW ship that would be able to get out of the deep Delta Quad using mostly STL and only able to use hyperdrive X3 for 1-2 minute every 3 days. This does severely limit the ships abilities but at X3 for 1-2 minute it could still go some light years just to escape maybe a fleet of ships. Now depending on the ship will depend when it uses its weapons or when it runs. Please tell me if further refinement is in order.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2004-01-02 04:56pm

Techno_Union wrote:Very true. A redesign of the question is in order. What would be the smallest SW ship that would be able to get out of the deep Delta Quad using mostly STL and only able to use hyperdrive X3 for 1-2 minute every 3 days. This does severely limit the ships abilities but at X3 for 1-2 minute it could still go some light years just to escape maybe a fleet of ships. Now depending on the ship will depend when it uses its weapons or when it runs. Please tell me if further refinement is in order.

It'd probably run out of fuel. Engaging the hyperdrive requires a large amount of fuel, while cruising in hyperspace after entering it requires barely any fuel. Requiring the ship to enter and exit hyperspace repeatedly will run the ship out of fuel fairly quickly.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-01-02 05:01pm

Do as i said and limit it to warp speeds due to major hyper drive dammage or some shuch.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-02 05:03pm

well then lmit the hypersrive to the warp drive speed of voyager. and now what ship would be used to get out

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-01-02 06:35pm

I'd say anything correlian corvette or bigger could do it.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-02 06:39pm

curiosity, would a correlian corvette beat a borg cube or sphere? or would they simply run

Solid Snake · Post by **Solid Snake** » 2004-01-02 06:57pm

I dont know if the warp core could power the turbolasers, could they?

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-02 07:11pm

Solid Snake wrote:I dont know if the warp core could power the turbolasers, could they?

What I mean now is the SW ship will still have hyperdrive but the hyperdrive speed would like X100 (or something like that). So it is as slow as voyager

Kerneth · Post by **Kerneth** » 2004-01-02 10:10pm

Don't Corvettes have light turbolaser batteries in dorsal and ventral turrets? Those are enough to let a Borg Cube know it's been nudged, and there's no evidence to suggest the Borg could adapt to a blaster/turbolaser bolt.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-01-03 01:08am

What allowed Voyager to survive was its ability to Magically turn raw materials into usable materials, utilizing their Subspace Glowy Thingy To Distract The Audience From A Simple Scene Fade Effect projectors.

So any SW ship in the same scenario - assuming a similar time period to Voyager's travels as well as similarly limited FTL - would need similar capabilities. This rules out smaller ships. Anything much littler than 100 meters probably wouldn't mount that sort of machinery.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-01-03 01:48am

while it wouldn't be the smallest ship it would be hillarious to watch an essd blowing up all the aliens of the week.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-01-03 02:05am

darthdavid wrote:while it wouldn't be the smallest ship it would be hillarious to watch an essd blowing up all the aliens of the week.

I refer you to a fanfic by the name of Nobody Gets Out Alive, by Chuck Sonnenburg.

LordShaithis · Post by **LordShaithis** » 2004-01-03 06:09am

How about this?

Just pretend, for the sake of discussion, that hyperdrive is exactly as slow as warp. Fuck, say it's Q screwing with them. Whatever. Also assume that our SW crew somehow knows where the Federation is, knows it's full of humans, and figures that's the best place to eventually go.

Then, for the hell of it, screw the ESSD and make it the Death Star.

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-01-03 12:36pm

No matter how big it is I doubt it has the endurance necessary to go decades without refueling. Considering that nobody in the ST galaxy produces hypermatter, the ship will run out before reaching the AQ. This senereo would be like asking if a M1 Abrams would beat a horse and buggy across 1800s America. Sure the M1 will slaughter whoever get's in its way, but it will run out of gas pretty quick, and once it's gone that is it. The horse and buggy on the other hand, while slower, and more in danger of attack, can simply stop in a grass field to eat.

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-01-03 12:49pm

Actually, this question really means nothing. Voyager may just as well have been a ship from Star Wars, given the fact that it could blow up Borg cubes and every fucking race it encountered was drastically inferior.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-03 03:22pm

First off food supply is not a problem. Most SW ships have from 1-8 years worth of consumable (starships of the galaxy). As for fuel lets say everything in the cargo bays were fuel enough to supply it for their journey. or they found a way to convert materials on a planet to hypermatter.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-01-03 07:26pm

Crayz9000 wrote:
darthdavid wrote:while it wouldn't be the smallest ship it would be hillarious to watch an essd blowing up all the aliens of the week.
I refer you to a fanfic by the name of Nobody Gets Out Alive, by Chuck Sonnenburg.

Hey! Where's part two? The damn thing just got interesting and it said "To be conitnued"! Arrrhhh!!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » 2004-01-03 10:28pm

Techno_Union wrote:What is the smallest SW ship that could survive in voyager's place? Eliminate the hyperdrive and replace it with a warp drive. Could a blockade runner do it? How about a Nebulon B frigate?

You mean including all the time-travel related episodes (year of hell especially?). To beat the Year of Hell ship protected by what are pretty much STGOD universe-shields with just firepower (no technological miracles, since SW doesn't seem to pull them off on a regular basis), you'd pretty much need a Q onboard.

Techno_Union wrote:Now obviously things would change such as how much the Borg would be interested in the ship. What SW captain would be the best one to be on the ship. Any SW ship and captain. No force users (complicates things too much)

They'd run out of fuel before reaching borg space, ST has so many spacial anomalies that hyperdrive would be useless, they'd be running into "mass shadows" from what were plot-device anomaly-related gravwells every hundred ly or so.

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-01-04 12:27am

Robert Walper wrote:Hey! Where's part two? The damn thing just got interesting and it said "To be conitnued"! Arrrhhh!!

Chuck's real life kicked in. Maybe he'll get around to finishing it, now that he's done with Paradise Lost...

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-01-04 01:52am

Matt Huang wrote:You mean including all the time-travel related episodes (year of hell especially?). To beat the Year of Hell ship protected by what are pretty much STGOD universe-shields with just firepower (no technological miracles, since SW doesn't seem to pull them off on a regular basis), you'd pretty much need a Q onboard.

Please describe precisely what happened, why an Imperial ship would get involved in the first place, and why we should ignore the probability that such time-travel incidents are really just jumping from timeline to timeline rather than altering a single timeline.

They'd run out of fuel before reaching borg space, ST has so many spacial anomalies that hyperdrive would be useless, they'd be running into "mass shadows" from what were plot-device anomaly-related gravwells every hundred ly or so.

That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in a long time. Does it ever occur to you that they only run into these anomalies because they actively go looking for them, and change course whenever they pick one up on sensors because they want to "investigate"? If you have some evidence that the mean free path to avoid anomalous invisible solar-sized gravity wells in Trek space is as ridiculously short as you say, then please present it.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-04 02:14am

About the fuel, it was my understanding that the consumables aboard an Imperial ship (even though it is food), also includes the fuel. The fuel is also being "consumed" in a manner of speaking. But if you have Starships of the Galaxy then it tells you the consumables of some SW ships. For instance, and Imp I and II have a 6 year supply of consumables. So feul may not be that big of a problem.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-04 10:34am

Voyger orginaly spent 23 years in the Delta Quadrant (in the unaltered timeline where future Janeway did not intervene).

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