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Alyeska wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:This thread should be subtitled: Or Blkbrry Exposes His Stupidity.
I never said that that every point is a valid one asshole.
Illuminatus Primus wrote:He doesn't have the most glowing history of having intelligent political views.
Then how about debating me instead of sniping at me from the sidelines you fucking weasel.
There is no fucking point debating you because the entire collection of questions you linked to is nothing more then conspiracy bullshit. Its like trying to debate with people who think the Apollo program was faked.
I was talking about the "intelligent political views" comment, you fucking idiot. If he has a problem with my political views he should state what he has a problem with, and why, and challenge me to defend them, instead of sniping at me from the sidelines.

As for your comparison to the Apollo program, its completely false. The "questions" raised to prove the Apollo program was "false" have been addressed, repeatedly, by science. Several of the "conspiracy" points are VALID questions that remain unanswered. One can ask questions without implying that a conspiracy occured.

However, since you've been critical of this thread, maybe you could tell me why the following points are conspiracy "bullshit" instead of being valid questions and points?

1. Like many others, she wanted to know why, on May 16, 2002, National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice stated that she didn’t "think anybody could have predicted that these people would take an airplane and slam it into the World Trade Center… That they would try to use an airplane as a missile, a hijacked airplane as a missile."

Breitweiser knows the historical facts say otherwise. She noted the following points in her statement. In her words... (supporting evidence here)

2.
Concerning the attack on the Pentagon, Breitweiser notes that Washington Air Traffic Control Center was aware of the first plane before it hit the World Trade Center. And yet, the third plane–American Airlines Flight 77, soon to plunge into the Pentagon–made a few "loop de loops" over DC one hour and 45 minutes after Washington Center was made aware of the hijackings. Why, she asks, was our Air Force so late in its response?

(Specifically directed towards Bush)

3. Why were 29 pages of the 9/11 committee report personally censored at your request?

4. Why did your brother, Jeb Bush, the governor of Florida, personally go to the offices of the Hoffman Aviation School and order that flight records and files be removed? These files were then put on a C130 government cargo plane and flown out of the country. Where were they taken and who ordered it done?

Devolution is quite as natural as evolution, and may be just as pleasing, or even a good deal more pleasing, to God. If the average man is made in God's image, then a man such as Beethoven or Aristotle is plainly superior to God, and so God may be jealous of him, and eager to see his superiority perish with his bodily frame.

-H.L. Mencken
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Those four questions are meaningless because they can be explained by a single word. Beauracracy. Information and ideas move slowly through such a mess. Fuck, I read of an example where a soldier asked permission to destroy useless information and he was given the go ahead so long as he made triplicates of each file and stored them.
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Alyeska wrote:Those four questions are meaningless because they can be explained by a single word. Beauracracy. Information and ideas move slowly through such a mess. Fuck, I read of an example where a soldier asked permission to destroy useless information and he was given the go ahead so long as he made triplicates of each file and stored them.
Wait... let me get this straight, you think a request from the top, such as Bush's censorship request, is an example of Bureacracy? Care to explain how this "explaination" would cover points three and four? Hell, care to explain why it would prevent the launching of a fighter (point two) when Andrews Airforce Base is practically within spitting distance of the Pentagon?
Devolution is quite as natural as evolution, and may be just as pleasing, or even a good deal more pleasing, to God. If the average man is made in God's image, then a man such as Beethoven or Aristotle is plainly superior to God, and so God may be jealous of him, and eager to see his superiority perish with his bodily frame.

-H.L. Mencken
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