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Alyrium:
Your response to the terrorist attack is total bullshit. You just declared a policy of arming your citizens a few RL hours ago, and that corresponds to a few game days. There is no way that you have even begun to issue them small arms in any numbers. There is definitely no way that you have given them any training whatsoever.

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Thnink about it this way. They suffered through an occupation. They as a nation had been at war for 200 years, and that just ended recently. Laws were only put into effect for MANDATORY arming. They had a full, organized resistance but months before. And you dont think they would be armed? I am not saying that ALL of them were. But a good portion of them have weapons in their homes.
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Pablo Sanchez wrote:Alyrium:
Your response to the terrorist attack is total bullshit. You just declared a policy of arming your citizens a few RL hours ago, and that corresponds to a few game days. There is no way that you have even begun to issue them small arms in any numbers. There is definitely no way that you have given them any training whatsoever.
No, let his post be as originally posted :twisted:
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Alyrium Denryle wrote:Thnink about it this way. They suffered through an occupation. They as a nation had been at war for 200 years, and that just ended recently. Laws were only put into effect for MANDATORY arming. They had a full, organized resistance but months before. And you dont think they would be armed? I am not saying that ALL of them were. But a good portion of them have weapons in their homes.
Yeah. And I guess they're well armed and experienced enough to take care of a large force of professional terrorists who just got done overrunning a police station. Yeah.
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OOC: Do you read a nations history at all? 200 years of war... ended recently. Full fledged resistance that played a key role in kicking out the Azegart... Most citizens are trained with weapons anyway, that just made it mandatory
I think the fleets of foreign battleships played a SLIGHTLY larger part in the freeing of your people than resistance fighters...
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Thirdfain wrote:
OOC: Do you read a nations history at all? 200 years of war... ended recently. Full fledged resistance that played a key role in kicking out the Azegart... Most citizens are trained with weapons anyway, that just made it mandatory
I think the fleets of foreign battleships played a SLIGHTLY larger part in the freeing of your people than resistance fighters...
Ssh! Let him believe into the myth of the resistance!
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Off to Charleston for vacation. Ya'll please be kind, and refrain from invading in my absence?

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I'm gonna edit my bid post for the Royal Navy contract. Just letting everyone know. I just skimmed the initial post and didn't notice some of the details.
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SirNitram wrote:
Beowulf wrote:And Nitram? It's known as redundancy. And my nation is paranoid as hell.
So we should throw all logic to the wind and assume these cores were never, ever tested before being put on the tender. Now, I realize this might dissapoint some people, but the Black Alliance are not, in fact, fucking retards.

As for the super-duper-impossible-to-sneak-by-redundancy, I am afraid I will now be an asshole. From the bit which started all this..
Beowulf wrote:Since when did you have this capability? I see nothing in the OOB indicating you can do this. I've seen no evidence of this capability prior to you just pulling it out of your ass. So suddenly have this capability, which was completely unknown prior to this, and you're claiming it just because I blew a battlecruiser into dust with an entire Task Force.
So. Where's this uber-redundancy in your OOB? Where's it in your prior posts?
Hmm... seems I missed a post.

To put it this way, my nation is paranoid enough to have complete control over the output of the power cores. If you had just thought of messaging me, before you did this, then I would have told you this. As to why this isn't in my OOB, it never needed to be, considering that ships don't normally have their power cores/reactors ripped out to power something else. It wouldn't exactly be common knowledge either, considering that there's a good reason for it to be a secret. Please note:The problem I had wasn't that he could keep his guys for dying, it was that he failed to declare a basic capability. The ability to have instantenous point to point communication is a very significant ability, effecting all gameplay. This is opposed to me having fairly direct control over power, which would only affect me, assuming that you don't manage to successful steal one of my ships, and try to use it, or you manage to get a saboteur into CENTCOM(very difficult)
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Beowulf wrote:And Nitram? It's known as redundancy. And my nation is paranoid as hell.
So is mine, yet we don't go through such utter extremes.
You're not a dictatorship.
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Beowulf wrote:
SirNitram wrote:
Beowulf wrote:And Nitram? It's known as redundancy. And my nation is paranoid as hell.
So we should throw all logic to the wind and assume these cores were never, ever tested before being put on the tender. Now, I realize this might dissapoint some people, but the Black Alliance are not, in fact, fucking retards.

As for the super-duper-impossible-to-sneak-by-redundancy, I am afraid I will now be an asshole. From the bit which started all this..
Beowulf wrote:Since when did you have this capability? I see nothing in the OOB indicating you can do this. I've seen no evidence of this capability prior to you just pulling it out of your ass. So suddenly have this capability, which was completely unknown prior to this, and you're claiming it just because I blew a battlecruiser into dust with an entire Task Force.
So. Where's this uber-redundancy in your OOB? Where's it in your prior posts?
Hmm... seems I missed a post.

To put it this way, my nation is paranoid enough to have complete control over the output of the power cores. If you had just thought of messaging me, before you did this, then I would have told you this.
Or you could have declared this capability, instead of asspulling it so hypocritically.
As to why this isn't in my OOB, it never needed to be, considering that ships don't normally have their power cores/reactors ripped out to power something else.
Wow, pirates steal stuff. Is this somehow shocking to you?
It wouldn't exactly be common knowledge either, considering that there's a good reason for it to be a secret.
Secret force declarations are allowed, you know.
Please note:The problem I had wasn't that he could keep his guys for dying, it was that he failed to declare a basic capability. The ability to have instantenous point to point communication is a very significant ability, effecting all gameplay. This is opposed to me having fairly direct control over power, which would only affect me, assuming that you don't manage to successful steal one of my ships, and try to use it, or you manage to get a saboteur into CENTCOM(very difficult)
In other words, your excuse for being an utter and complete hypocrit is you didn't see the possibility of a pirate group capturing one of your ships. Considering you posted signifigantly after I did(And made no bones about the fact that yes, I'm gonna be a bunch of spacefaring theives), I suppose one can only chalk this up to arrogance.
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Beowulf wrote:
phongn wrote:
Beowulf wrote:And Nitram? It's known as redundancy. And my nation is paranoid as hell.
So is mine, yet we don't go through such utter extremes.
You're not a dictatorship.
The Star Kingdom's monarch (or CNO if there isn't one) has virtually unlimited power, with the Senate in advisory role only.



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phongn wrote:
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phongn wrote: So is mine, yet we don't go through such utter extremes.
You're not a dictatorship.
The Star Kingdom's monarch (or CNO if there isn't one) has virtually unlimited power, with the Senate in advisory role only.
I was under the impression that the SKS gave a fuck about what it's citizens thought though. There was a very good reason why I chose the acronym for my nation. It was supposed to be a significant hint towards how I would be playing it.
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Beowulf wrote:I was under the impression that the SKS gave a fuck about what it's citizens thought though. There was a very good reason why I chose the acronym for my nation. It was supposed to be a significant hint towards how I would be playing it.
The Star Kingdom does what it feels is in the best interest of her citizenry. And yes, the whole 'PRC' thing was an unsubtle hint.
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I'm back!

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I should mention that the CorpSec fleet is spread out, but a significant portion of their striking power (50 capships, a number of escorts) is at Umbar. The other 650-odd ships are spread across the Alliance.
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When a fleet is evacuating hours before your ships will get there, there's a good chance they'll be well and truly gone by the time you finally arrive. Hence the decoys that meant there were almost no casualties by the invaders.
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*Stamps the character declaration as good*
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giggity giggity giggity.

I believe that says it all.
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SirNitram wrote:When a fleet is evacuating hours before your ships will get there, there's a good chance they'll be well and truly gone by the time you finally arrive. Hence the decoys that meant there were almost no casualties by the invaders.
Okay, a few things:

1) I captured a handful of mid-range officers from the Black Alliance, and managed to get a partial data sample from one. (You did say that a portion of your people never made it off the ground). As it is, my fleet knows that you ran somewhere above the galactic plane and something is being planned with xenomorphs against the Patriarchy. They'll be on the lookout, for what it's worth :(
2) I saw through the Hathor deception because of the aggressive close-range style of Kzin fleet engagements. Hope that isn't a problem.
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I should point out that the vessel you wasted WAS a Commonwealth DN, and that with chameleon paint being common on all Commonwealth vessels, it would be easy to set her to look just like the Hathor.

I don't see how being closer to her would have allowed you to penetrate the deception.
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Thirdfain wrote:I should point out that the vessel you wasted WAS a Commonwealth DN, and that with chameleon paint being common on all Commonwealth vessels, it would be easy to set her to look just like the Hathor.

I don't see how being closer to her would have allowed you to penetrate the deception.
A direct scan of her engine signature from point-blank, matched with intelligence assessements of the actual Hathor. In most sci-fi, each ship has a specific engine signature that is very difficult to change (this is in some ways a replication of the way that wet navy ships have unique sounds to their screws, such that they can be identified by that method). By closing to extreme close range, they were able to get a very good scan and compare it with their logs.
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-shrug-

I won't argue it. I was kind of looking forwards to a little action, though. Sigh.
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Thirdfain wrote:-shrug-

I won't argue it. I was kind of looking forwards to a little action, though. Sigh.
If you're really anxious for a go, you should just take a poke at the Kzin when they're less occupied. The only reason they distributed the all-clear so quickly is because they're already at war. If there was no Black Alliance issue going on, then the Patriarch would have just said se la vie and unleashed his cats of war.
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Seeing through the deception was annoying(I have to draw you apart enough to have a chance at a concentrated thrust, after all), but I admit it's not something I thought to do beforehand, so I'm hardly gonna argue it.
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