StarWars Rebellion

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-01-05 12:12pm

I actually love the game, though I realize its limitations. Hell I bought it when it first came out (my god how long ago) and still play it all the time.

Any way, fixing it wouldn't work. More like developing the idea and coming out with Rebellion II or something.

1. Graphics graphics graphics. Really, in this day and age, you can do better even with a strategy game.

2. Increase each system to a random amount of planets instead of just one.

3. Create two or three types of bases one can establish on a planet from secret, formal, or orbital. Each with its own pluses and negitives like stealth/defense/attack.

4. Way upgrade the tactical engine and increase the ship types (keeping with cannon ships). Hell, toss in some prequel shit to round it out.

5. Create factions. You can play Rebel/Empire but you can choose between MonCal/Bothan/Alderenian/Hapan/ect... or Imperial/Thrawn on the outer rim/CSA ect.....

Like factions can use diplomacy to 'join forces' and use each others industrial and military infastructure.

6. Rip off a decent ground combat engine something akin to 'Imperium Galactica II'. Build your own base and watch as you use ATAT's and ect. to destroy other's bases.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2004-01-05 01:04pm

Love it, but it does take a bloody long time to play.

Called Supremacy in the UK donchaknow...

Tolya · Post by **Tolya** » 2004-01-05 01:49pm

I liked it...until I took Coruscant & Emperor ran his ass off to the Outer Rim...after 2 days spent on scouting planets I was bored...

Then I stuck onto a planet on which Vader was. It had 2 best planetary shields, 3-4 units of Dark Troopers...and every mission I mounted failed. I couldnt bombard it because of the planetary defenses and the planetary shield...it was fucking immune. Then I got bored with the game and put it in the drawer. I enjoyed it, even though tactical combat sucked so badly that after two battles I stopped using it...just threw in a fleet superior in strength and waited for the victory music.

The worst thing about this game is that you can literally put Empire in Rebellion's place (and vice versa) and it wouldn't make a damn difference. Apart from different units/characters (and the fact that the Empire can construct Death Stars) the two sides are...the same. The game lacked that Starwars guerilla war atmosphere, where the Rebels had to do hit&run, operate in deepest secrecy...

I rated it 6/10, Im not a big fan of strategies (it has to be really something special to keep me interested, like Close Combat series).
A nice attempt at creating a SW universe, but fucked up at some point.

El Moose Monstero · Post by **El Moose Monstero** » 2004-01-05 01:57pm

Last time I played it, a long time ago, it was on easy, admittedly, and on easy it was ridiculously easy, especially when the empire defends coruscant with 6 star destroyers, and I was massing my entire fleet at Endor, in the end, swarmed in with several thousand starfighters and at least 60 capital ships. They had many shield generators and about 50 dark troopers, one general planetary bombardment later, and nothing remained on the surface... twas fun.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-01-05 02:16pm

When I played the Empire, and had to find the Rebel HQ, I was so annoyed in the end, that I jumped with the Death Star to each and every system not occupied by my forces and blew it up.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-01-05 03:28pm

I've only completed it once (Empire) and to do that i had to get a nice big fleet and go around taking over all the outer rim systems (With the occasional Death Star Attack) Took a while but ended up with just one planet with all the Rebel heroes on it.

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-01-05 04:22pm

I tend to use RebEd these days, mostly because it's really fun to give the Rebels ISDs.

I wonder if I can even play it normally anymore at all...

So, of those who still play, who wants to set up a game some time? I'd love to, assuming it can work well enough on XP (maybe 98 with my current desktop, if I can make the Internet work); the computer I have it on now has no Internet.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-05 05:30pm

Again I have never played this game so I do not know, are you able to build the Executor or the Eclipse? Can you go into a first person mode with people? Also what races can you be? Thanks for any help

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-01-05 06:19pm

Techno_Union wrote:Again I have never played this game so I do not know, are you able to build the Executor or the Eclipse? Can you go into a first person mode with people? Also what races can you be? Thanks for any help

Time to destroy your expectations I suppose...

Most powerful Imperial ship: Executor (Death Star doesn't count, although you can use the superlaser ROTJ-style).

First person mode: Heh, heroes are only rectangular icons. Ground combat is totally unnecessary; troops are only useful to garrison or take a planet after you bombard the defences to dust. Hell, just slag the planet (destroy all the resources or slots for buildings). I did that to the entire Corellian sector once.

Races: None, you can either be the Rebels or Imperials.

If you really want to play it and you can get it for just $4, buy it. If you don't like it, it's not much of a loss, is it?

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-05 08:29pm

Well being only Rebels or Imperial is ok by me since the Imperials are my favorite, but I suppose it would be better if there were more. As for the first person mode, does not bother me if it does not have one, troops I can do without. While the Eclipse is my favorite ship, the Executor is my second favorite; so this game is not all that dissapointing. One more thing promise, what are the Imperial and Rebel ships you are allowed to control? Again thanks for the help

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-01-05 08:51pm

Techno_Union wrote:Well being only Rebels or Imperial is ok by me since the Imperials are my favorite, but I suppose it would be better if there were more. As for the first person mode, does not bother me if it does not have one, troops I can do without. While the Eclipse is my favorite ship, the Executor is my second favorite; so this game is not all that dissapointing. One more thing promise, what are the Imperial and Rebel ships you are allowed to control? Again thanks for the help

Let's see if I can do it all from memory.

Rebel
Alliance Escort Carrier
Alliance Dreadnaught
Bulk Cruiser
Corellian Corvette
Bulk Transport
Medium Transport
Corellian Gunship
Nebulon-B Frigate
Mon Calamari Cruiser
Assault Frigate
CC-9600 Frigate
CC-7700 Frigate
Liberator Cruiser
Dauntless Cruiser
Bulwark Battlecruiser
Y-wing
X-wing
A-wing
B-wing

Empire
Imperial Escort Carrier
Imperial Dreadnaught
Victory Star Destroyer
Imperial Star Destroyer
Galleon
Star Galleon
Carrack Cruiser
Lancer Frigate
Strike Cruiser
Assault Transport
Victory II Star Destroyer
Interdictor Cruiser
Imperial II Star Destroyer
Super Star Destroyer
Death Star
TIE Fighter
TIE Bomber
TIE Interceptor
TIE Defender

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-05 10:20pm

Wow, thanks for the list. I suppose I will then try to get it. Those ships alone are enough for me to want it.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-06 08:45am

One last thing, some people say that it will not work on newer computers, I have Windows XP, would it still work?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-06 10:12am

Works on my Win XP machine.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-01-06 10:35am

Ironically, the only W95 game I have problems with is StarLancer, a Microsoft-published game

Superman · Post by **Superman** » 2004-01-06 10:39am

Isn't 'Birth of the Federation' the same kind of game? I have that one.

Sharp-kun · Post by **Sharp-kun** » 2004-01-06 05:19pm

Superman wrote:Isn't 'Birth of the Federation' the same kind of game? I have that one.

Birth of the Federation was better. Its one of the only games to buck the trend where Wars games are better than Trek games.

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-06 09:21pm

Do the graphics of this game bother some of you? Also when was this game made?

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-01-07 04:33pm

Techno_Union wrote:Do the graphics of this game bother some of you? Also when was this game made?

*shrugs* Doesn't matter to me...of course, I played it on a POS 200 MHz Win95 machine.

I should try it on my WinXP machine...if it'll work, I can kick some ass online! Who's up for it?

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-01-07 05:23pm

Techno_Union wrote:Do the graphics of this game bother some of you? Also when was this game made?

If it's only five bucks, just buy the damn game...

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-07 06:56pm

Ya on ebay it went up to $30, not gonna get it from there anymore. But i will still keep my eye out for it.

StarshipTitanic · Post by **StarshipTitanic** » 2004-01-07 07:28pm

Wow, it must be the last copy in existance. I can't imagine who would pay $30 for it...

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-01-07 07:34pm

I doubt the people really know anything about except from what the discription says which makes it way better then what I believe it to be.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-08 12:48am

Techno_Union wrote:One last thing, some people say that it will not work on newer computers, I have Windows XP, would it still work?

It works on my PC without a hitch.

Oberleutnant · Post by **Oberleutnant** » 2004-01-08 08:12am

I was thoroughly disappointed when Rebellion came out. I expected it to be just as good as MOO2, but only in Star Wars universe. At first I actually liked playing it, but after a while its shortcomings became apparent to me. Other posters have already mentioned them, so I won't bother repeating what they've already said.

Just give me a game where I can command a single ISD, damnit!

@ Techno_Union

Here's a review of the game at GameSpot. I generally agree with McDonald's opinion.