Matt Huang wrote:You mean including all the time-travel related episodes (year of hell especially?). To beat the Year of Hell ship protected by what are pretty much STGOD universe-shields with just firepower (no technological miracles, since SW doesn't seem to pull them off on a regular basis), you'd pretty much need a Q onboard.
Please describe precisely what happened, why an Imperial ship would get involved in the first place, and why we should ignore the probability that such time-travel incidents are really just jumping from timeline to timeline rather than altering a single timeline.
They'd run out of fuel before reaching borg space, ST has so many spacial anomalies that hyperdrive would be useless, they'd be running into "mass shadows" from what were plot-device anomaly-related gravwells every hundred ly or so.
That's the dumbest fucking thing I've heard in a long time. Does it ever occur to you that they only run into these anomalies because they actively go looking for them, and change course whenever they pick one up on sensors because they want to "investigate"? If you have some evidence that the mean free path to avoid anomalous invisible solar-sized gravity wells in Trek space is as ridiculously short as you say, then please present it.
Calm down, it was my attempt to humourously reflect the "here there be monsters" quote that is on Daltonator's website:
Well, remember that the Nebulon-B transcends 3-dimensional space... apparently, it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. That's how it magically has space for two squadrons of fighters.
SPOOFE wrote:Well, remember that the Nebulon-B transcends 3-dimensional space... apparently, it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. That's how it magically has space for two squadrons of fighters.
It is bigger on the inside and capable of holding those fighters because of how much space was cleared out. Not to mention that it already had 2 hangers before adding the huge one in the aft part.
Techno_Union wrote:About the fuel, it was my understanding that the consumables aboard an Imperial ship (even though it is food), also includes the fuel. The fuel is also being "consumed" in a manner of speaking. But if you have Starships of the Galaxy then it tells you the consumables of some SW ships. For instance, and Imp I and II have a 6 year supply of consumables. So feul may not be that big of a problem.
Even if an typical Imperial warship has enough fuel for 6 years of normal operation, keep in mind that this scenario is trying to get the ship to enter and exit hyperspace quite often, and each transition requires a vast amount of fuel. This is probably much more often than a typical warship would use hyperspace. Combat also uses up fuel, and most places in the galaxy aren't hotspots. (Which is probably another reason the Rebel pilots usually had much more combat experience than the Imperial pilots they encountered.) Fuel would be the only problem if you slow down the hyperdrive.
In theory, even if the ship is given a slower hyperspace drive, the starship should just need to get maps of the galaxy, and once that's accomplished, enter the course and stay in hyperspace the entire time. It'll avoid combat that way and greatly reduce fuel usage.
While that may be true, Imperial Star Destroyers are meant for war and their onboard fuel supply is probably meant for quick jumps and multiple hyper jumps and exits along with battles. But they would use fuel a lot but not as much as you might think.
SPOOFE wrote:Well, remember that the Nebulon-B transcends 3-dimensional space... apparently, it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. That's how it magically has space for two squadrons of fighters.
It is bigger on the inside and capable of holding those fighters because of how much space was cleared out. Not to mention that it already had 2 hangers before adding the huge one in the aft part.
At least they don't have a bottomless pit on a deck that magically exists below the bottom surface of the ship's hull.
SPOOFE wrote:Well, remember that the Nebulon-B transcends 3-dimensional space... apparently, it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. That's how it magically has space for two squadrons of fighters.
It is bigger on the inside and capable of holding those fighters because of how much space was cleared out. Not to mention that it already had 2 hangers before adding the huge one in the aft part.
At least they don't have a bottomless pit on a deck that magically exists below the bottom surface of the ship's hull.
It's called the secondary hanger.
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Techno_Union wrote:
It is bigger on the inside and capable of holding those fighters because of how much space was cleared out. Not to mention that it already had 2 hangers before adding the huge one in the aft part.
At least they don't have a bottomless pit on a deck that magically exists below the bottom surface of the ship's hull.
SPOOFE wrote:Well, remember that the Nebulon-B transcends 3-dimensional space... apparently, it's bigger on the inside than it is on the outside. That's how it magically has space for two squadrons of fighters.
It is bigger on the inside and capable of holding those fighters because of how much space was cleared out. Not to mention that it already had 2 hangers before adding the huge one in the aft part.
The Nebulon - B is larger than a modern day aircraft carrier so it should have sufficient space for fighters.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
It is about the same length, but is a lot less volumnous. It also has lots of space taken up by engines, plus more of the space is not in a good shape for a hanger. Finally, Rebellion fighters are larger than US Navy ones.
I think it would be simpler to just pretend that some really stupid malfunction makes the hyperdrive work exactly as a warp drive unless it has hypermatter - which it won't find in the quadrant.
Who knows, maybe it's the way it works. Maybe not, but if it's a condition of the OP then it doesn't matter.
My vote is for a Carrack. In sublight, it's as fast as an X-wing, and it packs 10 Heavy TLs and 20 Ion Cannon( or laser cannon). It's a solid block of armor, as opposed to a Neb-B that's spindly and stalky, and doesn't have the exposed engines of a CRC.
350m long,
~1000 crew+142 troops,
4 recon TIEs for scouting
3500 tons cargo,
1 yr consumables
According to Starships of the Galaxy, Consumables only refers to the ability to support it's crew without resupply( food, etc)
The ICS books had range figures that were unrelated to food supply.
According to Starships of the Galaxy, Consumables only refers to the ability to support it's crew without resupply( food, etc)
I have the same book, so would that include fuel because it supports the crew. The carrak is a good choice, always one of my favs. Would it be to harsh to put in a dreadnought? Just a thought.
Fuel does not support the crew. It supports the ship. Medicine and foodstuffs would support the crew.
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IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Fuel does not support the crew. It supports the ship. Medicine and foodstuffs would support the crew.
What about the power required for life support? Does it count as the support provided from fuel?
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Consumables would also apply to the ships ability to maintain a breathable atmosphere, in addition to food and water stockpiles, at a full crew complement.
Cargo space would then be in addition to that.
The Carracks are able to enter an atmosphere, but I do not recall if they can land on a planet.
One more question, If the ship is restricted to 'warp' speeds, is that at cruise warp, or top end warp? IIRC, Voyager could have made it home in a decade, but couldn't sustain the speeds necessary. Does the ship still enter hyperspace? If so, that'll eliminate many encounters right off the bat.
Andras wrote:My vote is for a Carrack. In sublight, it's as fast as an X-wing, and it packs 10 Heavy TLs and 20 Ion Cannon( or laser cannon). It's a solid block of armor, as opposed to a Neb-B that's spindly and stalky, and doesn't have the exposed engines of a CRC.
350m long,
~1000 crew+142 troops,
4 recon TIEs for scouting
3500 tons cargo,
1 yr consumables
According to Starships of the Galaxy, Consumables only refers to the ability to support it's crew without resupply( food, etc)
The ICS books had range figures that were unrelated to food supply.
You sure they're heavies?
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WEG rates them at 7d, which is the same as the Heavys on the ISD2 and the TL batteries on the DNs and Strikes; and are more powerful then the Quad TLs on a Victory.
Now, they could be low-gigaton Heavy TLs, instead of High Gigaton HTLs
