Who likes classical music?

Baron Scarpia · Post by **Baron Scarpia** » 2004-01-06 11:59pm

Trumpets, violas, basses...that's all well and good, but the fact remains that there is one and only one total power trip as far as an orchestra goes, and that is simply the conductor. Period.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 12:03am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:But you said you don't understand why many people like the 1812 Overture and the Ride of the Valkyries since they are overdone, which would contradict your liking the Nutcracker suite although it is also overdone.

I liked ONE PARTICULAR MOVEMENT.. with bias, mind you.

Other nice additions to the list:

Sibelius - Finlandia
Prokofiev - Peter and the Wolf
Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake
Sibelius - Finlandia
Schubert - Ave Maria
Salieri - Contredanse

~ver

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 12:04am

Baron Scarpia wrote:Trumpets, violas, basses...that's all well and good, but the fact remains that there is one and only one total power trip as far as an orchestra goes, and that is simply the conductor. Period.

No shit, Sherlock.

Which is why I plan on majoring in Music Ed.

Now.. to learn how to match pitch with my voice.. [how I managed to get into All-State still baffles.. everyone I know]

~ver

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 12:13am

By the way, hell if you ever find it, but Richard Meyer's Bailes Para Orquesta is also a very sweet piece, very festive.

~ver

Baron Scarpia · Post by **Baron Scarpia** » 2004-01-07 12:20am

verilon wrote: Other nice additions to the list:

Sibelius - Finlandia
Prokofiev - Peter and the Wolf
Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake
Sibelius - Finlandia
Schubert - Ave Maria
Salieri - Contredanse

~ver

You must really like Finlandia.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 12:27am

Baron Scarpia wrote:
verilon wrote: Other nice additions to the list:

Sibelius - Finlandia
Prokofiev - Peter and the Wolf
Tchaikovsky - Swan Lake
Sibelius - Finlandia
Schubert - Ave Maria
Salieri - Contredanse

~ver
You must really like Finlandia.

It's a biased statement.

I generally tend to like music more when I've played it.

Also, there's a very pretty minuet for violin and piano, but that, as well, is overused.

Then there's a minuet (?) for viola da gamba, but I can't remember who it is by.

That was my favorite solo and ensemble piece - ever! [was also a solo for All-State the year I made it in]

~ver

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 12:34am

Almost forgot:

Prokofiev - Lieutenant Kijé Suite

Not only was this a fun one, but it is just AWESOME.

~ver

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-07 01:21am

What instrument do you play ver?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 01:30am

SyntaxVorlon wrote:What instrument do you play ver?

Violin and viola. I dislike the violin, though, so I stick with the viola. (That, and the violin is too small for my hands)

~ver

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2004-01-07 03:54am

What is standard tuning on one of them and how many octaves on the neck?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 04:52am

Hethrir wrote:What is standard tuning on one of them and how many octaves on the neck?

From highest to lowest:

Violin: E, A, D, G
Viola/Cello: A, D, G, C
Bass: G, D, A, E

Octaves:

Violin/Viola: 3 or 4?
Cello: 4 or 5 I think
Bass: At least 5, IIRC

~ver

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2004-01-07 06:07am

What I mean is chromatically, so are there, what, 36 - 48 semitones from nut to bottom of neck? Also, are more than 4 string violins available? I found out that the 6 string basses keep the fourths going up and has a C instead of B string, so they go B, E, A, D, G, C

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 06:16am

Hethrir wrote:What I mean is chromatically, so are there, what, 36 - 48 semitones from nut to bottom of neck? Also, are more than 4 string violins available? I found out that the 6 string basses keep the fourths going up and has a C instead of B string, so they go B, E, A, D, G, C

Basses change strings in 4ths, rather than 5ths.

And you said octaves... so I gave you octaves, as far as I can remember.

36-60 semitones *I think* depending on the instrument, though I may be overestimating on the bass..

~ver

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2004-01-07 08:27am

wow, ok. The standard guitar only has 24, but I guess that makes up for it because we have an extra two strings.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-07 09:25am

Hethrir wrote:wow, ok. The standard guitar only has 24, but I guess that makes up for it because we have an extra two strings.

Well, this isn't counting harmonics. That'll up it another octave. But yes, I've done three octaves on a single string before (24 whole-steps; several more including the half-steps).

Besides, on a guitar, you have frets; on string instruments you do not, and often times find your fingers touching or overlapping the firther you get down the fingerboard.

~ver

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-01-07 05:00pm

phongn wrote:Bah, why are't people making my life easy and posting the catalog number?

It seems they don't make the CD anymore.

I've tried looking all over the place for it, but no site has it. See if you can get results. CDC 7 47022 2 by EMI Records. Riccardo Muti conducts the Philadelphia Orchestra. Bolero, Les Preludes, and the 1812 Overture. Maybe you can find it on amazon or ebay?

Baron Scarpia wrote:Trumpets, violas, basses...that's all well and good, but the fact remains that there is one and only one total power trip as far as an orchestra goes, and that is simply the conductor. Period.

(Snorts.) Tell that to a concert pianist.

While I'm making this post, I'll list some more pieces.

Liszt:
Mephisto Waltz
Norma Fantasy
La Campanella
Etude Concert No. 3 (Un Sospiro)
Venice and Naples
Wilde Jagd
Rigoletto Paraphrase
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 2 (duh)
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 11
Hungarian Rhapsody No. 19
Basically all of his Hungarian Rhapsodies, but those are the two I can remember that stand out from the rest.

Rachmaninoff:
Sonata for Cello and Piano in G minor Op. 19 Adante

Mendelssohn:
War March of the Priests (I prefer the organ version.)

Bach:
Tocata y Fugue (Again, I prefer the organ version.)

Sinding:
Rustle of Spring

Schubert:
Moment Musical No. 3 in F Minor
Spinning Song Op. 67 No. 34 (This one will brighten your day.

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I believe iclassics.com should cover all of this. Go here to search for the pieces: http://www.iclassics.com/iclassics/artists_search.jsp

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-08 06:21am

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:(Snorts.) Tell that to a concert pianist.

Rather, any instrumentalist that plays a concertino part. -shrugs-

~ver

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-01-08 12:39pm

That's...true...

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-08 12:47pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:That's...true...

Yes, a violinist/oboist/flutist/hornist/etc can take the orchestra where they want.. Seen it done far too often to think otherwise.

Pianists just have an advantage of not usually being able to see the conductor.

~ver

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-01-08 12:53pm

Even if he or she could see the conductor, who cares? The conductor has to follow him or her either way.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-08 01:12pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:Even if he or she could see the conductor, who cares? The conductor has to follow him or her either way.

I know. ^_^

Béla Bartók - Concerto for Viola and Orchestra, Op.120

~ver

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-01-08 01:22pm

LOL You wouldn't happen to have a recording of that, would you?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-08 01:24pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:LOL You wouldn't happen to have a recording of that, would you?

Yes, I do, in fact..

~ver

IRG CommandoJoe · Post by **IRG CommandoJoe** » 2004-01-08 01:26pm

On your computer or is it a tape or somesuch?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-01-08 01:30pm

IRG CommandoJoe wrote:On your computer or is it a tape or somesuch?

On the compie.

-listens to Lieutenant Kijé-

~ver