The CIA says Bin Laden is still alive

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Just what the hell is that suppoded to mean?
Do you doubt the identity of the man in the tape?
Do you question the ability to be certain of identity, by these intelligence sources?
Or did you just want to spew some anti "fill in the blank" retoric?
Just who, if ANYONE, is claiming it is NOT OBL on the tape?

The faked theory has no major backers, and the rest are split between the "He's dead, but make a lot of tapes" (like Dr. Oblivion in the movie "Vidoedrome.") crowd, or the "He's still alive and kicking and flipping off Uncle Sam" bunch.
So which are YOU? Dead or Alive?

Two concept for you.
Biometric data, voice pattern analysis.
Knowing where, (if anywhere,) you hid those items we are looking for, and exactly who you are are, are different types of questions, that use two different types of methods.
Given that it IS possible there are no WMDs to find, they may never find them.(DUH!)
Given that OBL is/was a very real person, and the pictures and other recordings we have of him, it is so much easier.
His identiy does exsist. This makes it more findable than somehing that may notexsist. (DUH!)
Most importantly, OBL is not trying to HIDE his identity, but to FLAUNT it. This make finding a posative ID easier. (DUH!)
Hmmmmmm.

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BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:
Howedar wrote:Only several tapes that have been thoroughly analyzed by several intelligence agencies and deemed genuine :roll:
You mean the same intelligence agencies who fabricated and presented false evidence for Bush's State of the Union address?
Now I'm as pissed as anyone about the State of the Union bit, but you can't just issue a blanket rejection of ANYTHING the government says because of one incident :roll:
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Howedar wrote:
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Howedar wrote:Only several tapes that have been thoroughly analyzed by several intelligence agencies and deemed genuine :roll:
You mean the same intelligence agencies who fabricated and presented false evidence for Bush's State of the Union address?
Now I'm as pissed as anyone about the State of the Union bit, but you can't just issue a blanket rejection of ANYTHING the government says because of one incident :roll:
I'm not blanket rejecting it out of hand, I'm just asking if theres any additional evidence that hes still alive. Its certainly not unreasonable to ask if there is any OTHER evidence besides what the government gives us, espicially when one takes into account that the government has repeatidly lied to the public, when it suits its needs, over the last 40 years.
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Howedar wrote:
BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:
Howedar wrote:Only several tapes that have been thoroughly analyzed by several intelligence agencies and deemed genuine :roll:
You mean the same intelligence agencies who fabricated and presented false evidence for Bush's State of the Union address?
Now I'm as pissed as anyone about the State of the Union bit, but you can't just issue a blanket rejection of ANYTHING the government says because of one incident :roll:
The credibility of the US goverment has suffered because of the second persian gulf war. Now everything they say is taken with a grain of salt.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
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Like that's anything new, SOrry I guess "Gulf of Tomkin", "Pentagon Papers", "Watergate", "Iran Contra", & the CIA's training terrorists, and working with drug dealers and genocidal freaks is something new to you.
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I'm trying to figure out exactly what the US stands to gain by saying bin Laden is still alive.
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Howedar wrote:I'm trying to figure out exactly what the US stands to gain by saying bin Laden is still alive.
I'll field this question on behalf of BlkbrrryTheGreat: obviously, they just want to deceive people because they're evil :wink:
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I can go a few better- saying Bin Laden is alive keeps the threat real in the minds of the American people, thereby keeping them cowering and afraid, which is where the government wants them. :)
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I can go a few better- saying Bin Laden is alive keeps the threat real in the minds of the American people, thereby keeping them cowering and afraid, which is where the government wants them.
I'm sure John Ashcroft appreciates that sendiment.
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Howedar wrote:I'm trying to figure out exactly
what the US stands to gain by saying bin Laden is still alive.
I'll field this question on behalf of BlkbrrryTheGreat: obviously, they just want to deceive people because they're evil :wink:
Well this is Bush we're talking about.... :wink:
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Vympel wrote:I can go a few better- saying Bin Laden is alive keeps the threat real in the minds of the American people, thereby keeping them cowering and afraid, which is where the government wants them. :)
On the other hand, the fact that bin Laden is still alive is seen by many people as a failure of the Bush administration. Capturing him would put an end to this criticism.
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There`s a running gag around here that,the US government has already caught OBL and they`re waiting October 2004 before bringing him out,and make people believe they captured him one month before the US election :wink:
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Joe wrote:
Vympel wrote:I can go a few better- saying Bin Laden is alive keeps the threat real in the minds of the American people, thereby keeping them cowering and afraid, which is where the government wants them. :)
On the other hand, the fact that bin Laden is still alive is seen by many people as a failure of the Bush administration. Capturing him would put an end to this criticism.
Bush needs a boogyman like Laden who he can use to bag more votes. Of course Americas reputation in the rest of the world has plummeted but Bush does not care.
I have to tell you something everything I wrote above is a lie.
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