Music Industry Puts Troops in the Streets

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-11 04:39pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote:Yup, a loophole if you jump on bail.

But really, you've cheated the legal system if you're bail jumping, so I don't really mind them assraping you if you're a chickenshit like that.

I'm sure that's a big consolation to the people who went on a date with the guy once ten years ago and have their door broken down and are cuffed at gunpoint at 3am (I shit you not, this is a true story and it happens often).

Companion Cube · Post by **Companion Cube** » 2004-01-11 05:25pm

You know, i'm finding it hard to shake the image of an army of goose-stepping RIAA goons marching down a city street in BDUs and gas masks....

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-11 05:34pm

The Kernel wrote:
Illuminatus Primus wrote:Yup, a loophole if you jump on bail.

But really, you've cheated the legal system if you're bail jumping, so I don't really mind them assraping you if you're a chickenshit like that.
I'm sure that's a big consolation to the people who went on a date with the guy once ten years ago and have their door broken down and are cuffed at gunpoint at 3am (I shit you not, this is a true story and it happens often).

What the fuck are you talking about?

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-01-11 05:39pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote: What the fuck are you talking about?

Bounty hunters, pulling shit like that is not unheard of.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-11 06:09pm

Well those ones should be arrested and prosecuted.

By and large--statistically speaking, their fuck up rate is actually lower than that of cops...every year lawsuits try to make their trade illegal, so they try not to arse it up.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-11 08:19pm

Illuminatus Primus wrote: What the fuck are you talking about?

Leslie Hagin, Legislative Director of the National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers wrote: Even though some bounty hunters are ex-convicts, or have otherwise been in trouble with the law, they enjoy broader powers to arrest fugitives than do police officers.

They can legally break into a home without a warrant or probable cause, and can violently arrest, shackle, imprison and even transport suspects across state lines with impunity. Because they are acting as privatized law enforcement officers, bounty hunter abuse of innocent citizens is law enforcement abuse, plain and simple.

If you want more on this, a Google search will easy reveal several complaints about this type of behavior. 60 Minutes has done a half dozen pieces on the bounty hunter issue of the years, and much of the problems still remain despite proposed legislation against archaic bounty hunter powers.

Exonerate · Post by **Exonerate** » 2004-01-12 01:40am

Nathan F wrote:Why am I reminded of that joke commercial of the RIAA raiding that house? And why do i not think that it'll be long before it comes to that?

Heh, I remember that... Unfortunately, I can't find it anymore.

Anybody saved a copy?

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-01-12 03:24am

Ender wrote:I'm curious, what is the difference between this and a mafia type intimidation shakedown?

Well given their failure to pay fines on their "Price Manipulation", technically they can be considered a "Currupt Organization"

Post by **The Yosemite Bear** » 2004-01-12 03:27am

Also since the volume IV of the best of the narcotics mariachi, is definatly a product of Mexico....

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-01-12 05:53am

This is insane. Just when you thought someone couldn't do anything more asinine...

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-01-12 09:39am

I can already see the next target - used CD stores. Think about it, unlike records and cassettes, CDs don't degrade when you play them, they might get scratched up a bit but that's it, they'll still sound the same after you play them 1000 times. There's a pretty healthy market in 2nd hand CDs, stores selling used CDs have popped up all over the place in Toronto over the last 10 years or so. As far as I know record companies and artists don't get a single cent from used CD sales, and I wouldn't be surprised if the RIAA goes after them next.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-01-12 11:46am

aerius wrote:I can already see the next target - used CD stores.

I know it's been said many times before, but...

SHHH!! YOU'RE GIVING THEM IDEAS!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-01-12 12:16pm

aerius wrote:I can already see the next target - used CD stores. Think about it, unlike records and cassettes, CDs don't degrade when you play them, they might get scratched up a bit but that's it, they'll still sound the same after you play them 1000 times. There's a pretty healthy market in 2nd hand CDs, stores selling used CDs have popped up all over the place in Toronto over the last 10 years or so. As far as I know record companies and artists don't get a single cent from used CD sales, and I wouldn't be surprised if the RIAA goes after them next.

One got hit in the Tampa Bay area -- they were accused of selling copies or something like that. I don't recall of what happened afterwards, but they're still in business.

Spyder · Post by **Spyder** » 2004-01-12 03:44pm

The Kernel wrote:Ever hear of a bounty hunter? They have been known to actually BUST DOWN DOORS and conduct illegal searches on houses that they believe have bail jumpers in them. And these people STILL get away with this shit to this day.

Bounty Hunters need to be licenced don't they?

aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-01-12 03:58pm

Peregrin Toker wrote:I know it's been said many times before, but...

SHHH!! YOU'RE GIVING THEM IDEAS!

I'm Canadian, the RIAA can kiss my ass. In Canada we had a bit of controversy when used CD stores first opened about 12-15 years ago, there were news reports on them discussing legal issues & royalties but nothing ever came of it. They've pretty much become accepted where I live, and there are many record stores here that sell both new and used CDs.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-12 04:13pm

The Yosemite Bear wrote:
Ender wrote:I'm curious, what is the difference between this and a mafia type intimidation shakedown?
Well given their failure to pay fines on their "Price Manipulation", technically they can be considered a "Currupt Organization"

Can't they be charged with rackeetering then?

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-01-12 04:43pm

Why do I get the feeling that this is the start of one of those sci-fi megacorps that have their own private armies?

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-01-12 05:29pm

Mobs do not actually use force to get money out of people. They actually set up payment plans and stuff if the person cannot presently afford to pay, and they only threaten force very rarely if they know the guy is shafting them. Not even the mob is this bad.

check it:

http://wired.com/wired/archive/11.12/mafia.html