The Ground weapon page

[YT300000]

A good shotgun analog would be the Corondex VES-700 pulse rifle. It fires hundreds of tiny filaments which shred right through humans with ease, but it needs to be reloaded after 6 shots.

[Tribun]

I know that games don't rank very high, but still, this is the only view through a stormtrooper helmet I can think of. In this screen, night-vision and heat-tracking is activated:



I think, the view is interesting....

[YT300000]

There's a much better one from the Republic Commando trailer.

Normal:

http://xbox.gamezone.com/gamesell/scree ... .htm?Num=2

Heat:

http://xbox.gamezone.com/gamesell/scree ... .htm?Num=4

[Vympel]

The first Republic Commando actual screenies are out. Not too impressed, but it's early and it wasn't from the best angle.

[Illuminatus Primus]

The LOS design of the SPHAT make it poor for most battlefields. Infact, since it can't lower its gun beyond a certain point, its use as conventional artillary is very questionable. However, that assumes it has a conventional use. Look how it is used in the films: to shoot down spacecraft. I propose that such a design is not to hit enemy troops, but to keep them honest as it were, and prevent them from calling in an orbital strike becaus any ship that would move into position to try would be hammered by their artillary.

The SPHA-T is indeed something we do not possess an analogue of. An ASAT direct-fire weapon.

Other versions can launch missiles and the clone wars cartoons show them shooting projectiles that do little damage and arc. They are also blue like the shells firied by the AT-TE. All those lead me to suspect that is another kind, one which shoots slugs. Those two would be used against other ground forces.

Self-Propelled Heavy Artillery-Mass Driver? SPHA-M? The ion cannon version likely is just to capture light spacecraft intact. And the proton torpedo may either be more direct-fire low-damage weapons or long-range cruise missiles/ASAT weapons for smaller targets than large warships.

You make mention of the Hailfire droid as a direct combat vehicle, and I have to disagree, when we was it in the movies it was functioning as an AA gun and it targeted concentrations of troops.

MBTs and all-manner of vehicles are equipped with guns in the 12 mm range spray fire at helicopters. This does not prove dedicated anti-air ability.

Rather, the blaster cannon in question are likely self-defense weapons against infantry, such as the AT-TE and TX-130 carry.

They're analogous to the Improved TOW Vehicle.

Further, the NEGVV describes it as being defended by other tanks much as one would protect artillary and we saw them do to the SPHATs.

Leap in logic. They're heavy armored vehicles, the Hailfire is a light armored vehicle. The present themselves to soak up damage and take out threats early while the Hailfire provides direct fire support.

I disagree with the characterization of the Clonetrooper rifle as a heavt sniper rifle, its power output is not that different from that of a stormtrooper blaster and it can fire in automatic mode

I'd say its analogous to the M-14. The DLT-14 is analogous to a paratrooper model of the Clonetrooper rifle to me. And the E-11 is the carbine version.

[Isolder74]

I have just realized that the Federation DOES have a type of NBC protection system but they do not use them except in special cases.

The Suit is used to board the Possible hostile envororment on board the Starship Defient in the TOS episode "The Tholian Web" when it is possible that a unknown disease killed the Crew of said ship.

The Suts are used in EVA's all throughout the Star Trek Movies as well and used most notebally in the assasination of the Klingon Chanseler i the Undescovered Country.

The only TNG Use is in First Contact.

Voyager uses them to try and mine Trilithium on a hostile planet where this silver stuff turns into a copy of Ensign Kim (need help with name0

in that isntance the sivler stuff literally passes right through the suit like water would normal clothing.--Odd

[Howedar]

Voy "Demon" is the episode to which you refer.

[Tribun]

The LOS design of the SPHAT make it poor for most battlefields. Infact, since it can't lower its gun beyond a certain point, its use as conventional artillary is very questionable. However, that assumes it has a conventional use. Look how it is used in the films: to shoot down spacecraft. I propose that such a design is not to hit enemy troops, but to keep them honest as it were, and prevent them from calling in an orbital strike becaus any ship that would move into position to try would be hammered by their artillary.

The SPHA-T is indeed something we do not possess an analogue of. An ASAT direct-fire weapon.

Actually it go a second fire mode where it behaves like normal atrellery with no line of sight. See:

http://www.lab321.ru/~stas/armoured_vehicles.html#5p2

[Ender]

The LOS design of the SPHAT make it poor for most battlefields. Infact, since it can't lower its gun beyond a certain point, its use as conventional artillary is very questionable. However, that assumes it has a conventional use. Look how it is used in the films: to shoot down spacecraft. I propose that such a design is not to hit enemy troops, but to keep them honest as it were, and prevent them from calling in an orbital strike becaus any ship that would move into position to try would be hammered by their artillary.

The SPHA-T is indeed something we do not possess an analogue of. An ASAT direct-fire weapon.

Actually it go a second fire mode where it behaves like normal atrellery with no line of sight. See:

http://www.lab321.ru/~stas/armoured_vehicles.html#5p2

I remarked on that in my post. Aside from it acting in a non LOS manner, it had a far weaker firepower and fired rounds identical to those from the AT-TE - blue pulses. This leads me to believe that it is a rail gun varient. While the barrel is the same, I would point out that the stylized art in that series makes for a number of known differences already - the LAAT, Durge, IG droids, etc.

[nightmare]

So this confirms that the Empire has weapons which can fire in a parabolic arc, as previously found in game units such as the Shock Cannon. I suppose some kind of energy wrapped projectile makes most sense, otherwise its an energy bolt with mass.

[nightmare]

On second thought, it's interesting to note the firepower of something that's probably an LTL equivalent. Might be interesting to run an estimate of.

[Isolder74]

Is there no comments on my realization?

Did I notice Something we all missed.

Btw on the Suits it seems only TOS era ever used them correctally

But they are very bulky and hardly combat worthy as seen in First contact in they they cannot sustain much damage before being compermised.

[IRG CommandoJoe]

You know what, Isolder? You reminded me of a TOS episode in which...someone mentioned that the Fed uniform has environmental control, much like what the Stormies have in their armor. I can't remember what episode it was, though.

[Tribun]

You know what, Isolder? You reminded me of a TOS episode in which...someone mentioned that the Fed uniform has environmental control, much like what the Stormies have in their armor. I can't remember what episode it was, though.

Nope.
The only thing ever mentioned it, that the boots and the material of thier uniforms are resistant to acid for some time. Was when they were on a planet were every plant has acid it it.

[Isolder74]

You know what, Isolder? You reminded me of a TOS episode in which...someone mentioned that the Fed uniform has environmental control, much like what the Stormies have in their armor. I can't remember what episode it was, though.

Nope.
The only thing ever mentioned it, that the boots and the material of thier uniforms are resistant to acid for some time. Was when they were on a planet were every plant has acid it it.

I see this providing them with no real battle field benefit in a hostile envoroment.

[Joe Momma]

You reminded me of a TOS episode in which...someone mentioned that the Fed uniform has environmental control, much like what the Stormies have in their armor. I can't remember what episode it was, though.

Nope.
The only thing ever mentioned it, that the boots and the material of thier uniforms are resistant to acid for some time. Was when they were on a planet were every plant has acid in it.

That episode was "The Way to Eden".

Another TOS episode mentioned that the Feddies' uniforms had heating elements, though I don't remember which one it was. It was one of those items that was only mentioned once despite numerous episodes where it would have been useful, so either it was a temporary addition that didn;t work out or it simply wasn't very effective.

-- Joe Momma

[Darth Wong]

I have just realized that the Federation DOES have a type of NBC protection system but they do not use them except in special cases.

They have bulky environmental suits, but they do not have military NBC protection. Military NBC protection must limit the degradation of combat-effectiveness associated with the protective gear.

[Isolder74]

I have just realized that the Federation DOES have a type of NBC protection system but they do not use them except in special cases.

They have bulky environmental suits, but they do not have military NBC protection. Military NBC protection must limit the degradation of combat-effectiveness associated with the protective gear.

You might as well mention them anyway to forstall any criticques. They have a suit but do not use it! That makes their stupidity even worse!

[CmdrWilkens]

I have just realized that the Federation DOES have a type of NBC protection system but they do not use them except in special cases.

They have bulky environmental suits, but they do not have military NBC protection. Military NBC protection must limit the degradation of combat-effectiveness associated with the protective gear.

For the record...that's the theory. Anyway who has ever donned the full MOPP suit and the M40 mask knows that it does in fact degrade your flexibility, vision, and endurance (thanks to heat issues). Quite possibly that enviro suit is the best the Feds can do.

[IRG CommandoJoe]

The best? We could probably make better suits than that POS right now in real life. I'd simply chalk it up to the Federation's crappy designs.

[PainRack]

I have just realized that the Federation DOES have a type of NBC protection system but they do not use them except in special cases.

They have bulky environmental suits, but they do not have military NBC protection. Military NBC protection must limit the degradation of combat-effectiveness associated with the protective gear.

For the record...that's the theory. Anyway who has ever donned the full MOPP suit and the M40 mask knows that it does in fact degrade your flexibility, vision, and endurance (thanks to heat issues). Quite possibly that enviro suit is the best the Feds can do.

Isn't the US designing a new suit that supposed to reduce a lot of this problem?

[Vympel]

Isn't the US designing a new suit that supposed to reduce a lot of this problem?

Yeah- that's the theory anyway- expect it to exceed it's expected cost by 50% and to require 3 production blocks to even approach usefulness.

[Tribun]

Mike seems to have changed some things. The destroyer hunting the falcon on the start site looks a bit more blue in color.

[Sea Skimmer]

Isn't the US designing a new suit that supposed to reduce a lot of this problem?

Yeah- that's the theory anyway- expect it to exceed it's expected cost by 50% and to require 3 production blocks to even approach usefulness.

Now now, that doesn't always happen, the Land Warrior gear for example now costs about 12% of the original projections.

[Sarevok]

Now now, that doesn't always happen, the Land Warrior gear for example now costs about 12% of the original projections.

So does that mean it will be possible to equip the common infantryman with Land Warrior technilogy ?