Helecopter kills

Dargos · Post by **Dargos** » 2004-01-14 02:07am

---WARNING SHOWS WHAT THE MAIN CANNON ON AH-64 Apache Helcopter can DO to TARGETS

link

works best if you right click and "save target as"

WARNING shows death of members of Iraqi army...no blood and guts just thermal imaging

aphexmonster · Post by **aphexmonster** » 2004-01-14 02:41am

i posted something quite similar to this ...

Nathan F · Post by **Nathan F** » 2004-01-14 02:42am

The exact same thing was posted in the HAB forum...must be circling around the internet.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-01-14 08:09am

I saw this at SB

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-01-14 11:53pm

If it's the one I think it is (network's bandwidth is being sucked up by someone right now), the local news network played it during the primetime news

. I have no problem with it being accessible for those who want to see it (like this thread), but it shouldn't be placed out there when little kids are likely to be watching the TV.

SylasGaunt · Post by **SylasGaunt** » 2004-01-15 03:28am

What can I say but.. ouch.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2004-01-16 08:06pm

Pardon my ignorance, but where is the HAB forum?

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-16 08:10pm

ALI_G wrote:Pardon my ignorance, but where is the HAB forum?

It's a private forum. See usergroups button.

Ubiquitous · Post by **Ubiquitous** » 2004-01-16 08:28pm

Private forum? I had no idea there were any here. Guess I should pay more attention in the future!

Hmm. Does anyone have a link to the relevent thread at SB then for discussion?

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-01-16 08:50pm

Finally got around to downloading it.

Fucking awesome video. I bet someone will take a pic of that grease-stain guy and use it as an av/sig.

IndustrialNoise · Post by **IndustrialNoise** » 2004-01-16 10:27pm

That's sweet. I think that's probably the only way I could ever kill someone purposely, from far away, without actually seeing their face or anything.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-01-16 10:30pm

Wow, now that's some freakin firepower...

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-01-16 10:44pm

Captain_Cyran wrote:Wow, now that's some freakin firepower...

Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.

Captain Cyran · Post by **Captain Cyran** » 2004-01-16 10:48pm

YT300000 wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote:Wow, now that's some freakin firepower...
Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.

One of you guys is gonna get me that as an early birthday present right?

Right? Guys? Oh come on!

Brother-Captain Gaius · Post by **Brother-Captain Gaius** » 2004-01-16 10:53pm

YT300000 wrote:
Captain_Cyran wrote:Wow, now that's some freakin firepower...
Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.

Um, isn't that taken from the FLIR HDD of an AH-64D? In which case it would be a Chain Gun?

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-16 10:56pm

YT300000 wrote:
Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.

It's not the GAU-8A, it's the Apache's 30mm chaingun (can't remember the M designator).

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-16 11:01pm

M230 30mm Automatic Gun. It is a single barrelled 30mm gun. Its not capable of near the refire as the GAU-8B, but thats because the AH-64 has more on target time whereas the A-10 must swoop in quickly, straff a target (or targets) and quickly pull up.

More info on M230 30mm Automatic Gun

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-01-17 10:14am

It was posted in N&P that this was from Iraq, and that the three men were killed because they had something that they thought was a weapon, a tube of some sort.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-01-17 12:24pm

Alyeska wrote: More info on M230 30mm Automatic Gun

I love this bit:

The gun duty cycle is as follows: six 50-round bursts with 5 seconds between bursts followed by a 10- minute cooling period. For bursts limited settings other than 50, the duty cycle can be generalized as no more than 300 rounds fired within 60 seconds before allowing the gun to cool for ten minutes, after which the cycle may be repeated.

Bah, if I'm an AH-64 pilot going into a hot zone, the chaingun is going
to be firing continiously, and I'm not coming back with any of my
1,200 rounds left in the hopper

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 12:30pm

If you melt the barrell, you might change your story.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-01-17 12:49pm

Alyeska wrote:If you melt the barrell, you might change your story.

Bah, I'll just get a replacement back at base. Besides, how many
times did the barrel change requirements for the MG-42 and
all post war MGs get "ignored" in hot zones?

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-01-17 03:20pm

MKSheppard wrote:
Alyeska wrote:If you melt the barrell, you might change your story.
Bah, I'll just get a replacement back at base. Besides, how many
times did the barrel change requirements for the MG-42 and
all post war MGs get "ignored" in hot zones?

Nothing like shooting the rifling out of a barrel, according to my dad in Vietnam troops would sometimes melt the barrels on M2's after linking up a couple thousand rounds pretty much for the hell of it. The things could actually get white hot and keep firing; at the end of it all the guns mechanism would still be useabul.

But anyway, modern high performance aircraft cannon barrels don't last too long; evidently the Bk.27 (used on the Tornado, Eurofighter and possibul F-35) basically needs its barrel changed as often as the magazine. Ultra low barrel life is also why Russian cannon have gotten such good performance and weight for so long. Though I suppose with helicopters, which make far greater use of there guns they and western designers do better.

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-01-17 06:16pm

Vympel wrote:
YT300000 wrote:
Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.
It's not the GAU-8A, it's the Apache's 30mm chaingun (can't remember the M designator).

Apaches don't use the Avenger?

Oh, silly me. *smacks himself*

Alyeska · Post by **Alyeska** » 2004-01-17 06:28pm

YT300000 wrote:
Vympel wrote:
YT300000 wrote:
Yeah, the GAU-8A is awesome. 7 barrels of 30 mm death, available 4200 times per second.
It's not the GAU-8A, it's the Apache's 30mm chaingun (can't remember the M designator).
Apaches don't use the Avenger?

Oh, silly me. *smacks himself*

Here is what it would be like trying to put the Avenger on the Apache.

Imagine trying to step infront of a train and trying to stop it with your body.

See. While funny, its also very messy.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2004-01-17 06:53pm

Alyeska wrote:
Here is what it would be like trying to put the Avenger on the Apache.

Imagine trying to step infront of a train and trying to stop it with your body.

See. While funny, its also very messy.

With some strengthening you could likely mount and fire the cut down GAU-13 gunpod version from the wings, 826 kg with 4 barrels and 353 rounds of ammuntion. I doubt the recoil would be a real big issue, accuracy would be however.