Did Leia kill...

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-19 03:11pm

That poor Stormtrooper in ANH? In the corridor she shoots one, but he doesn't really look like he dies...the hit appeared kinda weak, if you take my meaning. But does anyone know if, in fact, he died?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-19 03:37pm

She shoots a lot of Stormtroopers in corridors, if I remember correctly...

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-01-19 04:03pm

I think he means the first one, in her corvette.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-19 04:16pm

Yeah, on board that doomed ship at the beginning. My bad...

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For below comment...

Yup, the Tantive IV, wasn't 100% about the name, and didn't want to appear much more stoopider.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-01-19 04:17pm

The Tantive IV, you mean.

Well, he looked pretty dead to me.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-19 04:22pm

I think the novelization mentioned that he was just stunned, but I don't remember too well.

Ted C · Post by **Ted C** » 2004-01-19 04:54pm

It's difficult to distinguish a dead stormtrooper from an unconcious one. There's no telling how many of the stormtroopers we see get shot in the movies are actually still alive (although we can safely write off the ones that fall into the omnipresent bottomless pits).

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-01-19 05:02pm

Simple.

If there is a burnt hole on his armor, he is dead.
If it is only blackend, but no hole, he is not.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2004-01-19 05:19pm

if a stormtrooper is shot, he is dead. There arent any "wounded stromtroopers" in the films, there only "Dead" and "Not-dead".

I think its implied that she killed him. The hit she herself takes is only a stun blast.

Chardok · Post by **Chardok** » 2004-01-19 05:26pm

zombie84 wrote:I think its implied that she killed him. The hit she herself takes is only a stun blast.

I knew she was only stunned. But, you know, the other storm troopers didn't even MOVE when their buddy was shot. does this speak to discipline or foolishness? they didn't seek cover or anything.

Darth Garden Gnome · Post by **Darth Garden Gnome** » 2004-01-19 05:33pm

Chardok wrote:But, you know, the other storm troopers didn't even MOVE when their buddy was shot. does this speak to discipline or foolishness?

Stormtroopers are trained to ignore the casualties of their comrades and look at them only from a tactical standpoint. Since the objective was to subdue one person, the loss of the trooper did not effect their operation.

they didn't seek cover or anything.

The fact that Leia had a blaster apparently caught the troopers unaware, where it shouldn't have, but I guess they felt (wrongly) that a senator (even one who was a Rebel conspirator) would be unarmed.

D.Turtle · Post by **D.Turtle** » 2004-01-19 06:11pm

IIRC he survivied.

I just remember this (very) darkly.

I can not present a quote or source for this.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-19 06:14pm

There was a comic (not official) that followed that stormtrooper's story. If you can go by this, he was very, very dead.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-01-20 02:03am

http://h4h.com/louis/smack.html

Nah. No magnesium flash. He was knocked over, that's it. She just had a sporting blaster.

Darwin · Post by **Darwin** » 2004-01-20 02:14am

From ANH novelization.. where it seems things happened a bit differently..

He never finished the sentence, just as he would never recieve the hoped-for commendation. Once his attention turned from the girl to his communicator her shivering vanished with startling speed. The energy pistol she had held out of sight behind her came up and around as she burst frmo her hiding place.

The trooper who had been unlucky enough to find her fell first, his head a mass of melted bone and metal. The same fate met the second armored form coming up fast behind him.

goodness.

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-01-20 02:32am

Leia you murdering bitch!

Crayz9000 · Post by **Crayz9000** » 2004-01-20 02:37am

Lord Poe wrote:http://h4h.com/louis/smack.html

Nah. No magnesium flash. He was knocked over, that's it. She just had a sporting blaster.

By the way, your link to the Operation Crossroads document on that page doesn't work anymore.

Lord Poe · Post by **Lord Poe** » 2004-01-20 02:44am

Crayz9000 wrote:By the way, your link to the Operation Crossroads document on that page doesn't work anymore.

Yeah, there's more links broken on that website than you can shake your wookiee at. Maybe I'll get interested in it again, sometime.

Post by **K. A. Pital** » 2004-01-20 07:41am

That troop'r died according to ANH novel. We can't determine if Leia's blaster pierced his armor (uh, I'll go make some screenies).

But, there is one certain blaster fire survivor - the ROTJ trooper on Endor... yes.
You can check out my page about this "casus armor":
http://www.lab321.ru/~stas/armorsuits.html#7p1

YT300000 · Post by **YT300000** » 2004-01-20 07:59pm

Ender wrote:Leia you murdering bitch!

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-01-20 08:22pm

Lazy Raptor wrote:There was a comic (not official) that followed that stormtrooper's story. If you can go by this, he was very, very dead.

While the poor Stormie is indeed dead, that story was in a Star Wars Tales comic...which has an 'Infinites' label. So if he somehow survived in the movie, the tale would be thrown out completely as evidence to the contrary.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-20 08:34pm

Ghost Rider wrote:While the poor Stormie is indeed dead, that story was in a Star Wars Tales comic...which has an 'Infinites' label. So if he somehow survived in the movie, the tale would be thrown out completely as evidence to the contrary.

Well, it's been shown that he gets waxed in the ANH novelization, so that's kind of a moot point isn't it?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 08:35pm

Remind me why we care about this particular stormie, again?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-01-20 08:37pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Remind me why we care about this particular stormie, again?

No reason whatsoever.

Mad · Post by **Mad** » 2004-01-20 09:47pm

Darwin wrote:From ANH novelization.. where it seems things happened a bit differently..

He never finished the sentence, just as he would never recieve the hoped-for commendation. Once his attention turned from the girl to his communicator her shivering vanished with startling speed. The energy pistol she had held out of sight behind her came up and around as she burst frmo her hiding place.

The trooper who had been unlucky enough to find her fell first, his head a mass of melted bone and metal. The same fate met the second armored form coming up fast behind him.

goodness.

That doesn't mesh too well with what we saw in the movie, though. She only got one trooper, and as I recall, it hit him in the chest, not the head.

Though I suppose the bolt could have deflected off the armor and up and into his helmet... the only problem was that it deflected in a very, very bad direction...