Exorcism suspected after child found dead

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-19 04:49pm

link

Sick fucks.

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2004-01-19 04:56pm

Another one? FUCK!

And this might have been funded by a church? What century is this again?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-01-19 05:03pm

Jeez. I'd really like some more information on this case than the article was able to provide. If these allegations are true, though, I hope that these guys are put away for a LONG time.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-01-19 06:56pm

Hopefully they don't get than four years like the parents in that last exorcism case, especially when they deserve much more. And if the church helped them, have an investigation or something.

Darth Raptor · Post by **Darth Raptor** » 2004-01-19 07:09pm

I think it meant that they were living there with assistance from the church, not that the church was supporting their little "operation".

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-01-19 07:17pm

Lazy Raptor wrote:I think it meant that they were living there with assistance from the church, not that the church was supporting their little "operation".

One would kinda hope so, especially since their ceremony doesn't seem to match Catholic Exorcism rites.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-19 07:27pm

I don't think the Catholic church is into that sort of thing anymore.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-01-19 07:36pm

No, but individual Catholics in various places around the world are still known to do things like that on occasion, although it is generally associated more with more obscure cults when it happens in western nations.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-19 07:47pm

Howedar wrote:I don't think the Catholic church is into that sort of thing anymore.

It's still a valid practice according to the Vatican, although I doubt it has been performed with the Church's approval in a while.

Illuminatus Primus · Post by **Illuminatus Primus** » 2004-01-19 07:53pm

They maintain it is a valid practice so they don't have to recant on their past bullshit, but they never approve it anymore. Its politics as usual.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-19 11:58pm

Darth Wong wrote:No, but individual Catholics in various places around the world are still known to do things like that on occasion, although it is generally associated more with more obscure cults when it happens in western nations.

Oh, definately. I thought that was implicit since we were discussing an event in a western nation. I will try to be more clear in the future.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-01-20 12:01am

You know, if you're going to do an exorcism, at least let the priest do it and not some nutjob parents...

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 12:49am

I don't believe this.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-20 12:55am

Howedar wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:No, but individual Catholics in various places around the world are still known to do things like that on occasion, although it is generally associated more with more obscure cults when it happens in western nations.
Oh, definately. I thought that was implicit since we were discussing an event in a western nation. I will try to be more clear in the future.

It's in Atlanta, I suppose that comes close enough.

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-01-20 01:00am

While it's my understanding that some exorcisms are allowed by the Church, they had EMT's on sight during such. This.. This is a deranged looney. And hopefully one that will get caught.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-01-20 01:03am

Exorcism in Atlanta ? Very hard to believe it can happen there.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2004-01-20 04:12am

SirNitram wrote:While it's my understanding that some exorcisms are allowed by the Church, they had EMT's on sight during such. This.. This is a deranged looney. And hopefully one that will get caught.

Exactly my thoughts.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-01-20 11:02am

Howedar wrote:I don't think the Catholic church is into that sort of thing anymore.

I was given the distinct impression that the Catholic church does still perform exorcisms, but they are very much hush hush and gravely serious affairs.

The thing is that Catholic exorcism is nothing like the sort of things that you get with the very severely Protestant groups, like the extreme kinds of soth Baptists. I've heard terrible things about the way they "drive out the Devil".

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-20 01:25pm

GODDAMNIT!
I'm so fucking tired of these baptists.

This sort of religious fanatacism is going to collide violently with the 21st century.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-20 01:28pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:
Howedar wrote:I don't think the Catholic church is into that sort of thing anymore.
I was given the distinct impression that the Catholic church does still perform exorcisms, but they are very much hush hush and gravely serious affairs.

The thing is that Catholic exorcism is nothing like the sort of things that you get with the very severely Protestant groups, like the extreme kinds of soth Baptists. I've heard terrible things about the way they "drive out the Devil".

I've never heard the slightest whisper of such bullshit.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-20 01:34pm

This happened a few months ago at a strip mall church. Some idiots preformed an exocism and killed a child.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 02:01pm

One of Jack Chick's cronies that I met once wanted to perform an exorcism on me, because to be a D&D playing Christian must mean demonic possession of some kind.

I'm a little big to sit and take it while someone beats the snot out of me, though. I don't think he wanted the beating approach, if only because I could kill him barehanded if I so chose and he knew it.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-20 03:49pm

Howedar wrote:I've never heard the slightest whisper of such bullshit.

I have, and here is a passage from The Skeptic's Dictionary about it.

An exorcism is a religious rite for driving Satan or evil spirits out of a possessed person, place or thing. In ancient times, many cultures had such rites. Today, the Roman Catholic Church still believes in diabolic possession and its priests still practice what is called "real exorcism," a 27-page ritual involving the use of holy water, incantations and various prayers, incense, relics or Christian symbols such as the cross, to drive out evil spirits. The Catholic Church has at least ten official exorcists in America today (Cuneo). The Archbishop of Calcutta, Henry Sebastian D'Souza, says he ordered a priest to perform an exorcism on Mother Teresa shortly before she died in 1997 because he thought she was being attacked by the devil.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-20 04:05pm

Maybe it's just me, but aren't exorcisms meant to drain the demons out of the host and not the life?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-01-20 04:07pm

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Maybe it's just me, but aren't exorcisms meant to drain the demons out of the host and not the life?

That's the idea, yes.