Kerry wins Iowa

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2004-01-19 11:12pm

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/01/ ... index.html

Kerry with 38%
Edwards with 32%
Dean with 18%

Gephardt is considering dropping out, or may already have by this time.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-19 11:16pm

WOW, Dean got spanked. I wasn't expecting it to be that bad.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-01-19 11:18pm

Gosh... I guess all the flip flops, the I love Jesus and Mad Dean disease caught up with him....

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-19 11:23pm

Joe wrote:WOW, Dean got spanked. I wasn't expecting it to be that bad.

I didn't either (of course primaries have just begun) but I think it's mostly because people are looking for some one electable rather than idealogical crank that won't make it.

I'm rather pleased to see Kerry and Edwards in the top runners. I'd love to have a decent moderate instead of Bush.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-19 11:27pm

Kerry's not a decent moderate and he has the consistency of a millimeter thick tampon. Edwards is closer to that description.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-19 11:27pm

I'm overjoyed at this news.

Kerry, despite some problems last year, has always been a strong contender and this is a huge win for him. I hope he goes all the way; the man is a hell of a politician.

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-01-19 11:40pm

Thus Demised Dick Gephart.

And, I might add as humour, the last results I saw had Kucinich getting more then Wes Clark (not that it matters.)

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-19 11:42pm

Straha wrote:Thus Demised Dick Gephart.

And, I might add as humour, the last results I saw had Kucinich getting more then Wes Clark (not that it matters.)

Amazing. A few days ago I read a poll that had Kucinich ahead of Clark and swore it was a mistake. Guess not.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-19 11:42pm

Joe wrote:Kerry's not a decent moderate and he has the consistency of a millimeter thick tampon. Edwards is closer to that description.

Yeah, he's not with out his problems. But hey, in my opinion either is a much better choice than Dean or Bush.

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2004-01-19 11:42pm

Joe wrote:Kerry's not a decent moderate and he has the consistency of a millimeter thick tampon. Edwards is closer to that description.

But did you know he served in Vietnam?

Seriously, this is a boost for the Edwards campaign. They'll be going into NH with momentum, while Dean is starting to slide..

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-19 11:50pm

I would hesitate to look at a single state and predict a slide from it. Dean never had more than a 6% lead in Iowa, and polling in Iowa is kinda wacky anyway. If he fails similarly in NH, then I may agree with you.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-19 11:52pm

Howedar wrote:I would hesitate to look at a single state and predict a slide from it. Dean never had more than a 6% lead in Iowa, and polling in Iowa is kinda wacky anyway. If he fails similarly in NH, then I may agree with you.

Well the psychological impact from the loss is pretty significant. In the voters eyes, this is a pretty huge failure. I'm not saying he can't recover, but it isn't great news for him.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-19 11:58pm

Alex Moon wrote:
Joe wrote:Kerry's not a decent moderate and he has the consistency of a millimeter thick tampon. Edwards is closer to that description.
But did you know he served in Vietnam?

Seriously, this is a boost for the Edwards campaign. They'll be going into NH with momentum, while Dean is starting to slide..

Of course I know he served in Vietnam. And may we never, ever forget it (he sure as hell wouldn't let us).

Alex Moon · Post by **Alex Moon** » 2004-01-19 11:59pm

The Kernel wrote:
Howedar wrote:I would hesitate to look at a single state and predict a slide from it. Dean never had more than a 6% lead in Iowa, and polling in Iowa is kinda wacky anyway. If he fails similarly in NH, then I may agree with you.
Well the psychological impact from the loss is pretty significant. In the voters eyes, this is a pretty huge failure. I'm not saying he can't recover, but it isn't great news for him.

The fact that Kerry spanked Dean by such a huge margin and that Edwards nearly did the same is going to resonate with Democratic voters. They're looking for a guy who can win, and to do that you need to bring out the whole party. If Dean's showing in NH is anything like this, people are going to wonder whether or not he can bring out moderates democrats and independants.

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-20 12:02am

Yes. As I said, if another poor showing occurs then I will agree with you.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-20 12:06am

He's making his victory speech as we speak. I really like the fact that he highlighted universal health care so well. Let's see if he keeps with this since it's the most important campaign issue in my mind.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-20 12:14am

The Kernel wrote:He's making his victory speech as we speak. I really like the fact that he highlighted universal health care so well. Let's see if he keeps with this since it's the most important campaign issue in my mind.

Yeah, it is. And one likely to torpedo him as much as help.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-20 12:18am

HAHA! Did anyone catch The Moment of Zen on the Daily Show?

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-20 12:22am

Joe wrote:HAHA! Did anyone catch The Moment of Zen on the Daily Show?

No. What was it? Dean looking totally destroyed?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-01-20 12:26am

No, Michael Bolton singing at a Gephardt rally and some guy in the background waving a Gephardt sign in rhythm. You had to see it, but it was funny.

Stormbringer · Post by **Stormbringer** » 2004-01-20 12:27am

Alex Moon wrote:The fact that Kerry spanked Dean by such a huge margin and that Edwards nearly did the same is going to resonate with Democratic voters. They're looking for a guy who can win, and to do that you need to bring out the whole party. If Dean's showing in NH is anything like this, people are going to wonder whether or not he can bring out moderates democrats and independants.

Yeah, in this election a lot of democrats are looking for some one that can damn well win, not necessarily the one that fits them most ideologically. If Dean has a bad showing it's going to cripple him no matter how much his ideology works for them. It seems he really does lack the moderate appeal he needs.

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-01-20 03:25am

Maybe this is the boost Kerry needs to get his house out of mortage.

It is interesting as hell though, Kerry is a maluable mother fucker and it'll be interesting to see where he stands on alot of shit now.

MKSheppard · Post by **MKSheppard** » 2004-01-20 05:28am

Alex Moon wrote:
Dean with 18%

SUCK IT DOWN, ICEBERG.

SUCK IT DOWN LONG AND HARD

....sorry, but that's what you get when you whore
Dean so much it becomes annoying.

Daltonator · Post by **Daltonator** » 2004-01-20 05:52am

MKSheppard wrote:....sorry, but that's what you get when you whore
Dean so much it becomes annoying.

It's no wonder that threads like these go downhill so quickly.

theski · Post by **theski** » 2004-01-20 07:57am

Mk wrote:

Iceberg....."......"

Points at Dean......LAUGHS

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