Gov't Wins By 5 Votes In Top-Up Fees Vote

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-27 03:18pm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/3434329.stm

Well as I said on another board, either we go for higher fees which won't effect me or my brother though it will hamper my kids in the future, or we go the route America went and ask for extortionately high fees or let very few students in.

You can't have it free and excellent condition, money doesn't grow on trees.

This does seem very close though.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-01-27 03:28pm

I presume this is some sort of college related bill? I'm rather curious what it is that this is all about. What does the bill mean to do?

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-27 03:32pm

Shaidar Haran wrote:I presume this is some sort of college related bill? I'm rather curious what it is that this is all about. What does the bill mean to do?

It means to input £10bn more into university pockets by making the tuition fee price rise from £1100 a year to over 3k. They've gone from the grant system to fees to larger fees in no time at all.

Even this isn't what some universities want, Oxbridge for instance want to charge £10k or thereabouts while Exeter wants to keep fees the same.

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2004-01-27 03:45pm

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Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2004-01-27 03:48pm

Grr... stupid non-responsive keyboard. Anyway...

Even this isn't what some universities want, Oxbridge for instance want to charge £10k or thereabouts while Exeter wants to keep fees the same.

Good god I hope that won't end up happening. The last thing we need is free-market education.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-01-27 03:58pm

Blast, I was hoping that would have ended in up in a vote of no-confidence... I want to go Oxford, so they'd better bloody not jack it to 10K quid.

2000AD · Post by **2000AD** » 2004-01-27 03:58pm

Damnit! It pisses me off. Rich families can afford it, and scroungers get it paid for, the only people losing out are the hard working people like my parents!
I just don't get why Blair says he wants more working class kids going to uni and then brings in stuff like top up fees!

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-27 04:07pm

2000AD wrote:Damnit! It pisses me off. Rich families can afford it, and scroungers get it paid for, the only people losing out are the hard working people like my parents!
I just don't get why Blair says he wants more working class kids going to uni and then brings in stuff like top up fees!

I know the feeling, we earn enough to negate benefits but not enough to just see this as pocket change.

Damn my family's middle-class status!

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-01-27 05:29pm

Dang. £3000 for tuition, minimum? Most state schools only charge around $1500/semester (or so) in the US (or $3000/year). Private schools typically charge much more, of course.

TheDarkling · Post by **TheDarkling** » 2004-01-27 05:36pm

phongn wrote:Dang. £3000 for tuition, minimum? Most state schools only charge around $1500/semester (or so) in the US (or $3000/year). Private schools typically charge much more, of course.

No it is 3000 max.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-01-27 05:38pm

If they had a reasonable fee for students,then i think some will learn what they need instead of partying in.

Thats my opinion

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-27 05:41pm

TheDarkling wrote:
phongn wrote:Dang. £3000 for tuition, minimum? Most state schools only charge around $1500/semester (or so) in the US (or $3000/year). Private schools typically charge much more, of course.
No it is 3000 max.

And that's per year.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-01-27 07:04pm

Well, here in Germany it is currently hotly debated if the universities are allowed to introduce tuition fees. In spring, there's a decision expected from our highest court if it confomrs with the constitution. If it is, universities will introduce fees of around 500 Euros.
If they do, I guess all hell breaks loose at our universities...

salm · Post by **salm** » 2004-01-27 07:21pm

Dahak wrote:Well, here in Germany it is currently hotly debated if the universities are allowed to introduce tuition fees. In spring, there's a decision expected from our highest court if it confomrs with the constitution. If it is, universities will introduce fees of around 500 Euros.
If they do, I guess all hell breaks loose at our universities...

yeah, that´s going to suck. i mean the quality of tution might go up, but i´ll to have to get a job. that´s definately going to suck.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-01-27 07:35pm

salm wrote:
Dahak wrote:Well, here in Germany it is currently hotly debated if the universities are allowed to introduce tuition fees. In spring, there's a decision expected from our highest court if it confomrs with the constitution. If it is, universities will introduce fees of around 500 Euros.
If they do, I guess all hell breaks loose at our universities...
yeah, that´s going to suck. i mean the quality of tution might go up, but i´ll to have to get a job. that´s definately going to suck.

Well, I already have to work. And have to offer this semester's sacrifice of 101 Euro to the University of Stuttgart, may it burn in hell.

Keevan_Colton · Post by **Keevan_Colton** » 2004-01-27 08:25pm

Nah-nah-nah-nah!

I'm in Scotland...

Hah.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-01-27 10:37pm

Keevan_Colton wrote:Nah-nah-nah-nah!

I'm in Scotland...

Hah.

Fuck. You.

I tried to get a grant, but would they accept my half Scots heritage? Nooooooo!