Al Franken beats up heckler at Dean Rally!

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-01-27 03:59pm

Franken was a wrestler?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-27 04:05pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Is anyone else reporting it? Because that sounds too surreal to be real. Any other confirmations that this happened, as the New York Post isn't precisely known for it's journalism.

That is a good point. I'd expect this to be a blurb on several websites, if not a major story.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-01-27 04:09pm

Franken said he's not backing Dean but merely wanted to protect the right of people to speak freely.

Isn't attacking a heckler the opposite of protecting free speech?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-01-27 04:29pm

Howedar wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:Is anyone else reporting it? Because that sounds too surreal to be real. Any other confirmations that this happened, as the New York Post isn't precisely known for it's journalism.
That is a good point. I'd expect this to be a blurb on several websites, if not a major story.

Not even Drudge Report is carrying this. I call fake.

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-01-27 04:31pm

Now that I think of it, it wasn't Franken who wrestled in college, it was his brother. He spent part of a chapter in Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot describing his brother's quest to lose 25 pounds so he could be graded 4-F on his draft physical

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-01-27 05:05pm

Iceberg wrote:
Howedar wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:Is anyone else reporting it? Because that sounds too surreal to be real. Any other confirmations that this happened, as the New York Post isn't precisely known for it's journalism.
That is a good point. I'd expect this to be a blurb on several websites, if not a major story.
Not even Drudge Report is carrying this. I call fake.

Drudge has a link to it, but it isn't the top story or anything. It just links directly to the NYP article.

Drooling Iguana · Post by **Drooling Iguana** » 2004-01-27 05:37pm

* wonders who would win in a fight between Al Franken and Jean Chretien *

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-01-27 05:43pm

Shaidar Haran wrote:
Howedar wrote:Inappropriate, but I'm sorta disgusted that some of the posters are blaming Dean for this.
I don't think any one is blaming Dean. Just noting the irony of a heckler being beaten at one of his rallies by one of his supporters.

Franken isn't a Dean supporter. Didn't you read the article?

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-01-27 05:45pm

Gil Hamilton wrote:Is anyone else reporting it? Because that sounds too surreal to be real. Any other confirmations that this happened, as the New York Post isn't precisely known for it's journalism.

CNN is reporting that Franken was involved in removing a group of hecklers, but doesn't say how he did it.

Howedar: I don't think anyone's blaming Dean for it, it seems everyone's just laughing at Franken's bullshit excuse that he was defending free speech by attacking the speakers.

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-01-27 05:45pm

Cnn article on what really happened

MANCHESTER, New Hampshire (CNN) -- Followers of perennial presidential candidate Lyndon LaRouche interrupted a campaign event for former Vermont Gov. Howard Dean on Monday before being drowned out by Dean supporters and removed from the room with the assistance of comedian Al Franken.

As Dean was addressing a crowd in Manchester, the fans of LaRouche -- who is something of an outcast in the Democratic Party for his extremist views -- began screaming that Dean is "a liar" and not a Democrat. They said the only candidates telling the truth are LaRouche and Sen. John Kerry, the apparent front-runner in the race.

The crowd began cheering "Howard Dean, Howard Dean," drowning out the LaRouche supporters as they were removed from the room.

Franken, a comedian and self-described liberal well-known for his attacks on the Bush administration and conservative-leaning media, helped carry out one of the disrupters. In the process, Franken's glasses were knocked off his face and broke in two.

Putting them back together with electrical tape, he quipped he had been "deputized" by Dean's security.

LaRouche supporters also heckled Sen. Joe Lieberman at a town hall meeting at Milly's Tavern in Manchester Monday evening.

Observers said the LaRouche crowd was forcibly removed by Lieberman supporters and Capitol Hill security staff who guard the senator.

Several people in the audience said they were completely unaware that there had been any disruption, but the Manchester Police were summoned to the scene and responded en masse.

Earlier, at a Kerry event, a woman asked the candidate, "Will the Democratic candidates tell us about the American situation in the global economy? Will you? And if not, why?"

"I think you've asked that question about three different places we've been, on behalf of Lyndon LaRouche," Kerry responded before stating his stances on international trade and domestic job growth.

CNN's Jeanne Meserve and Sasha Johnson contributed to this report.

Nothing about Franken attacking somebody. NYP is just being its usual print equivalent of Faux News.

Gil Hamilton · Post by **Gil Hamilton** » 2004-01-27 06:17pm

Howedar wrote:That is a good point. I'd expect this to be a blurb on several websites, if not a major story.

It's just that I'd expect FOXNews to be all over this. I mean, there is alot of bad blood between FOXNews and Al Franklin. I immediately turned on FOXNews to see what they had to say, expecting the full bottom the screen to be filled with "AL FRANKEN ASSAULTS MAN FOR TALKING!" in flashing red letters, but bam, nothing.

Glocksman · Post by **Glocksman** » 2004-01-28 03:00am

Earlier, at a Kerry event, a woman asked the candidate, "Will the Democratic candidates tell us about the American situation in the global economy? Will you? And if not, why?"

"I think you've asked that question about three different places we've been, on behalf of Lyndon LaRouche," Kerry responded before stating his stances on international trade and domestic job growth.

Christ, it looks like I agree with the LaRouche nutjobs on one issue.

Oh well, even a broken clock is correct twice a day.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-01-28 05:21am

Iceberg wrote:Now that I think of it, it wasn't Franken who wrestled in college, it was his brother. He spent part of a chapter in Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot describing his brother's quest to lose 25 pounds so he could be graded 4-F on his draft physical

In "Lies and the Lying Liars Who tell Them" , Franken says that he wresteld in high school

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-01-28 05:25am

Just a side note: the last time I've seen a Larouche supporter, he tried to convinve me that Edgar Alan Poe was working with Alexander Hamilton and the CIA to reatore democracy in Cuba.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-01-28 09:49am

fgalkin wrote:Just a side note: the last time I've seen a Larouche supporter, he tried to convinve me that Edgar Alan Poe was working with Alexander Hamilton and the CIA to reatore democracy in Cuba.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Wasn't Poe a child when Hamilton was killed? And if so, did you bother telling him that?

Iceberg · Post by **Iceberg** » 2004-01-28 10:58am

fgalkin wrote:
Iceberg wrote:Now that I think of it, it wasn't Franken who wrestled in college, it was his brother. He spent part of a chapter in Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot describing his brother's quest to lose 25 pounds so he could be graded 4-F on his draft physical
In "Lies and the Lying Liars Who tell Them" , Franken says that he wresteld in high school

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Really?

Which chapter? *shrug* Probably just missed it or skimmed it.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-01-28 02:53pm

The Kernel wrote:
Shaidar Haran wrote:
Howedar wrote:Inappropriate, but I'm sorta disgusted that some of the posters are blaming Dean for this.
I don't think any one is blaming Dean. Just noting the irony of a heckler being beaten at one of his rallies by one of his supporters.
Franken isn't a Dean supporter. Didn't you read the article?

He says he's neutral in the race. But that doesn't mean his sympathies aren't with Dean.

And frankly, you don't tackle a guy like he did for nothing.

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-01-28 03:34pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
fgalkin wrote:Just a side note: the last time I've seen a Larouche supporter, he tried to convinve me that Edgar Alan Poe was working with Alexander Hamilton and the CIA to reatore democracy in Cuba.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Wasn't Poe a child when Hamilton was killed? And if so, did you bother telling him that?

No. Edgar Alan Poe hasn't been born yet. Also, the CIA wasn't around, either. And yes, I did tell him that.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-01-28 03:36pm

Iceberg wrote:
fgalkin wrote:
Iceberg wrote:Now that I think of it, it wasn't Franken who wrestled in college, it was his brother. He spent part of a chapter in Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot describing his brother's quest to lose 25 pounds so he could be graded 4-F on his draft physical
In "Lies and the Lying Liars Who tell Them" , Franken says that he wresteld in high school

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin
Really?

Which chapter? *shrug* Probably just missed it or skimmed it.

"I challenge Rich Lowry to a Fight".

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-01-28 03:39pm

Shaidar Haran wrote:
The Kernel wrote:
Shaidar Haran wrote: I don't think any one is blaming Dean. Just noting the irony of a heckler being beaten at one of his rallies by one of his supporters.
Franken isn't a Dean supporter. Didn't you read the article?
He says he's neutral in the race. But that doesn't mean his sympathies aren't with Dean.

And frankly, you don't tackle a guy like he did for nothing.

He didn't tackle the guy. Hamel already posted What really happened

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-01-28 04:22pm

Just a slight difference there

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-01-28 05:09pm

Celebrities are above the law, don'cha know?

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-01-28 08:46pm

Howedar wrote:Just a slight difference there

Could something like what the New York Post did be considered libel? After all, beating someone up for doing something that's pretty much normal at any rally is far worse than assisting several supporters in chasing the hecklers out.

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-01-29 12:59am

Col. Crackpot wrote:Don't fuck with Stewart Smally, be-otch!

Lies and the lying liars, WHO WILL FEEL MY MIGHTY WRATH!!!!
By Al "The ACLU warrior" Franken

Darth Fanboy · Post by **Darth Fanboy** » 2004-01-30 04:15am

Iceberg wrote:Now that I think of it, it wasn't Franken who wrestled in college, it was his brother. He spent part of a chapter in Rush Limbaugh is a Big Fat Idiot describing his brother's quest to lose 25 pounds so he could be graded 4-F on his draft physical

Franken wrestled in High school IIRC and He helped his brother lose all that weight playing squash and through weight loss techniques they learned from wrestling

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