Speculative Trek Weaponry

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-09 07:08pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:
Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote: Why not? Define "pure energy", please. Electrons? A positron is the antimatter equivalent, if I'm not mistaken.
Magnetic or electric field
Okay, magnetic field, no reaction. But electric, yes. Remember, electic fields are fields of electrons (or so I assume) and electrons will react with anielectrons, or positrons.

a electric field is setup by a charge but it doesn't actually contain charged particles.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-09 07:10pm

Really! Dang! How does that work?

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-09 07:27pm

Raoul Duke, Jr. wrote:Really! Dang! How does that work?

The Electric Field is the affect by the charge on a positive test charge

tharkûn · Post by **tharkûn** » 2002-10-09 07:52pm

A few new ones to add to the mix:
Cloaked smart mines that wait for enemy sheilds to go down before impacting and detonating. Sheilds are active systems ... cloaked vessels have no trouble with passive sensors. Especially useful for places like DS9 (largely imobile star bases that routinely lower sheilds as part of SOP).

Relativistic KE weapons. Fill a shuttle/missile with DLi, loads of dense metal, and as much sheilding as you can get on board. Use the DLi as fusion propulsion and accelerate the thing to hideous speed, let slam into fixed targets (planets, space stations) ... if you can use warp drive/impulse to maneuver without effecting the KE at impact ... shread enemy ships. Cheap, powerful, and deadly ... always a good combo. You could use M/AM to power the thing, but that leads to a hideous weakness if the enemy breaches your containment system.

Trans universe I&E. Use the transporter to go over to the mirror universe like was done in DS9, once there transit to your target, beam back. If you can manage to get ships there and back, well now the concept of battefront dies (assuming the enemy can't do the same or you can pick any of thousands of universes).

The best idea I've seen is some type of long range missile.

After that better fighters (with designated "carriers").

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2002-10-09 09:32pm

A more efficent warp core: Doesn't bleed off the majority of the energy produced. Energy saved could be used to increase phaser power, shield power, or both.

More ergonmic hand phasers: Common sense, people.

Better equipped ground troops: Common sense again. Besides, 20th century forces were better equipped.

Before implementing new, exciting tech, implement common sense.

Raoul Duke, Jr. · Post by **Raoul Duke, Jr.** » 2002-10-09 09:51pm

Shit, they could probably achieve all that by having enclosed warp nacelles again. God knows what that blue glow is, but if energy is escaping out the side of the fucking nacelle, it isn't getting used properly...

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-10 11:26pm

Isolder74 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Let's see;

A gattling photon launcher (someone suggested it earlier...)
That would be me!

A tractor-Repulsor beam (ala SFB Andors-alternating attraction-repulsion in the same beam, shakes the target to peices)
Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

A mine that makes an artificial gravity well/hypermass/blackhole. Trigger it and get sucked in.
Ouch! Your merciless

And for the ground forces, something simple: Transporter artillery. (thanx again to SFB for that one)
Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

How about a kinetic energy missle? no warhead; just rams you at lightspeed. Simple physics does the work for you.
Yes, but adding a warhead makes it much worse. A 200 kg object at c has KE of(ignoring Relitivity cause i don't have time to do the calcs) = 9 x 10^18 Joules add a warhead with 20 kg of anti-matter gets you and extra 3.6 x10^18 Joules.

The Kinetic energy missle with no warhead: SAFETY No live amunition to worry about-something Star Blech would need for a plot device...smack.

Yeah, I play SFB and know it's not cannon. But it's OK to dream.

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-10 11:33pm

Oh, and using phase *turrets*, and not phaser strips.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-10 11:54pm

Trekkie wankfest?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-11 12:29am

VF5SS wrote:Trekkie wankfest?

Umm, I am missing the point...

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-12 02:41pm

EmperorMing wrote:
VF5SS wrote:Trekkie wankfest?
Umm, I am missing the point...

if tyou did so did I

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-12 03:16pm

Some of this speculative weaponry just seems rather outlandish, that's all...

Vendetta · Post by **Vendetta** » 2002-10-12 04:05pm

The Kinetic energy missle with no warhead: SAFETY No live amunition to worry about-something Star Blech would need for a plot device...smack.

These appear a lot in Peter F. Hamilton books. Particularly effective for planetary bombardment, as a kinetic harpoon attack causes seismic shockwaves. (possibly not the most deadly of weapons, but one of the most satisfying things you can do to a planet)

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2002-10-12 06:31pm

kojikun wrote:I know what would be really useful. A gun that uses actual bullets, and officer training that teaches them to AIM FOR THE FUCKING HEAD

You don't want to aim for the head though, you want to aim for the torso. The head is a much smaller target. Hence why they teach "aim for the center mass"

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-12 07:00pm

EmperorMing wrote:
Isolder74 wrote:
EmperorMing wrote:Let's see;

A gattling photon launcher (someone suggested it earlier...)
That would be me!

A tractor-Repulsor beam (ala SFB Andors-alternating attraction-repulsion in the same beam, shakes the target to peices)
Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

A mine that makes an artificial gravity well/hypermass/blackhole. Trigger it and get sucked in.
Ouch! Your merciless

And for the ground forces, something simple: Transporter artillery. (thanx again to SFB for that one)
Unfortianatally SFB is total uncanon as is all of the cool ST stuff

How about a kinetic energy missle? no warhead; just rams you at lightspeed. Simple physics does the work for you.
Yes, but adding a warhead makes it much worse. A 200 kg object at c has KE of(ignoring Relitivity cause i don't have time to do the calcs) = 9 x 10^18 Joules add a warhead with 20 kg of anti-matter gets you and extra 3.6 x10^18 Joules.
The Kinetic energy missle with no warhead: SAFETY No live amunition to worry about-something Star Blech would need for a plot device...smack.

Yeah, I play SFB and know it's not cannon. But it's OK to dream.

I play it too. Yes we all can dream, BTW do you have Star Fleet Command?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-12 07:13pm

Yup. 1,2 and Orion Pirates.

Isolder74 · Post by **Isolder74** » 2002-10-12 07:20pm

EmperorMing wrote:Yup. 1,2 and Orion Pirates.

Cool do you play online?

EmperorMing · Post by **EmperorMing** » 2002-10-12 07:40pm

I haven't played online yet. Been more into deathmatch...

I need fragaholics anonymous.