Dead Poets Society

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-01 10:17pm

Who's seen this movie?

I think it is a fantastic movie. Wveryone should watch it, particularly students. Especially students.

Raxmei · Post by **Raxmei** » 2004-02-01 10:21pm

Saw it years ago with my sister. I think it was during the nineties. It was a sad movie, but I don't remember why. Did someone die?

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2004-02-01 10:24pm

Seen it many times, dont think too much of it.

Well acted, but contrived and cheesy as hell. I always think of the Family Guy parody where they have Robin Williams jumping on the desks like a buffoon saying "look at me, i'm a free-spirit, i'm standing on a desk!"

I guess its encouraging for students, and it has a positive message, but its very overrated. It aint bad, but it seems that every film that pushes the "books are good" angle gets undue praise.

The Aliens · Post by **The Aliens** » 2004-02-01 10:30pm

We watched it in English class, but damned if I can remember how it ended, I believe I was investigating the belly-button ring of an attractive peer hands-on at the time...

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-02-01 11:18pm

Great movie.

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

SyntaxVorlon · Post by **SyntaxVorlon** » 2004-02-01 11:44pm

Saw it, I prefer Stand and Deliver.

Post by **Vympel** » 2004-02-02 12:00am

It's pretty enteraining.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-02-02 12:39am

It was a good crappy movie, just like Minority Report and Matchstick Men.

It's a great movie, until you think about it, and realize all the horrible plot elements.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-02-02 01:05am

Since part of this thread got split, I just wanted to repeat that I love Dead Poets' Society, and one of the guys (Josh Charles, who played Knox Overstreet) is my best friend's cousin.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-02-02 01:06am

Yeah, that it pretty much is. There are some movies you can just ignore the plot holes and implausibilities because they're so damn good.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-02 01:08am

kojikun wrote:Who's seen this movie?

I think it is a fantastic movie. Wveryone should watch it, particularly students. Especially students.

Yeah, I agree completely. I saw this when I was young and didn't remember much of it, other than Robin Williams - who wasn't playing a "funny" role, and at my young age I noticed that right away - and the final scene at the end, and although I didn't understand why the kids were standing up on the desks I could tell it was significant and sad at the same time.

It wasn't until I went to high school and saw for myself just what the movie was about, and almost experienced it for myself as well. I had a teacher who was uncannily the same as Mr. Keating (Robin Williams's character) - he was a lit teacher, he had this manner of teaching that was both entertaining and challenging, and he was fun - unlike the depressing majority of my other teachers. The only difference between the two was my teacher was old, and Keating is supposed to be the new, young kid who walks into the stuffy, traditionalist school full of boring old men.

I point this out because my school wasn't oppressive like the one in the film, but it was just as mundane and boring. They had a tendency to put too much value on things which, to my mind, were trivial (like religious "chapel" services which were supposed to be compulsory - those who took a sickie came in the next day with a detention; the "sports" report almost every weekly assembly, and sports days; finally the boring curriculum - I got As consistently in English yet at no point did I feel even remotely challenged).

Anyway the movie resonated for me in a way that went beyond the role of a mere form of entertaiment - it gave me a sense of perspective on my school and life, and made me appreciate a few things - like my teacher - and also allowed me to recognise my school's faults.

zombie84 · Post by **zombie84** » 2004-02-02 01:18am

Stofsk wrote:Anyway the movie resonated for me in a way that went beyond the role of a mere form of entertaiment - it gave me a sense of perspective on my school and life, and made me appreciate a few things - like my teacher - and also allowed me to recognise my school's faults.

I think Fast Times At Ridegemont High did that better than Dead Poets. It wasnt a cliched mess of self-importance that rivaled Matrix Reloaded.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-02 01:29am

zombie84 wrote:
Stofsk wrote:Anyway the movie resonated for me in a way that went beyond the role of a mere form of entertaiment - it gave me a sense of perspective on my school and life, and made me appreciate a few things - like my teacher - and also allowed me to recognise my school's faults.
I think Fast Times At Ridegemont High did that better than Dead Poets. It wasnt a cliched mess of self-importance that rivaled Matrix Reloaded.

That may be true, although I haven't seen the movie you cite. I only ever saw Dead Poets maybe twice, one time not all the way through (recent), and the other time I only remember the "good" bits, I guess (when I was a kid), so I concede it may not be the best movie that can depict what I was trying to say in my above post, but it was nevertheless a good film for me.

DPDarkPrimus · Post by **DPDarkPrimus** » 2004-02-02 01:35am

The thing about DPS is that the ending is completely stupid. The kid committed suicide over a trivial matter that had nothing whatsoever to do with the teaching.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-02-02 01:43am

DPDarkPrimus wrote:The thing about DPS is that the ending is completely stupid. The kid committed suicide over a trivial matter that had nothing whatsoever to do with the teaching.

Deal with parents who expect you to do everything they say just because they tell you to and then call that trivial. The ending was non-Hollywood. It was exactly right.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-02-02 01:51am

DPS was a brilliant, moving film.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-02 01:52am

Dalton wrote:DPS was a brilliant, moving film.

Aye. The last scene had tears running down my cheeks. First movie in YEARS to get me to do that.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-02-02 01:55am

kojikun wrote:
Dalton wrote:DPS was a brilliant, moving film.
Aye. The last scene had tears running down my cheeks. First movie in YEARS to get me to do that.

After I saw that film I wanted to get up and stand on my desk.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-02 01:57am

My English teacher made us watch it when I was a high school freshman. Ze goggles did nothing.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-02-02 02:10am

It makes us teachers feel warm and fuzzy, because we all (well, all the good ones, anyway) aspire to affect our students like that. It really does happen, and it's the most amazing feeling.

And Dalton, that kicks major fucking ass.

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-02-02 02:13am

zombie84 wrote: Well acted, but contrived and cheesy as hell. I always think of the Family Guy parody where they have Robin Williams jumping on the desks like a buffoon saying "look at me, i'm a free-spirit, i'm standing on a desk!"

That wasn't Robin Williams, it was Darma from Darma and Greg.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-02 02:19am

Zaia wrote:It makes us teachers feel warm and fuzzy, because we all (well, all the good ones, anyway) aspire to affect our students like that. It really does happen, and it's the most amazing feeling.

And Dalton, that kicks major fucking ass.

Wait a minute.

Post by **Zaia** » 2004-02-02 02:24am

Rogue 9 wrote:Wait a minute.

Hmmm?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-02 02:30am

Just that I'd never have pegged you for a teacher.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 02:31am

Rogue 9 wrote:Just that I'd never have pegged you for a teacher.

You didn't know that Zaia was a teacher?

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