A good scenario for the Borg.
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A good scenario for the Borg.
The commanders of the Black Sword fleet have failed to retreat, but Nil Spaar and his team of commandos have failed too. They were killed before reaching the control room of the Super Star Destroyer Intimidator, but when the Intimidator tried to flee from the orbit of N-Zoth, the explosives seeded inside the SSD by the Yevetha did explode. Now, an unarmed mobile imperial shipyard with eight damaged Star Destroyers on it orbits an undefended planet with four hundred million of tech geniuses.
By an act of luck (or of Q, you choose), ten Borg cubes do appear around every one of the thirteen undefended worlds of the Yevethan protectorate. What does happen after this?
By an act of luck (or of Q, you choose), ten Borg cubes do appear around every one of the thirteen undefended worlds of the Yevethan protectorate. What does happen after this?
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At the point I am talking about, the yevetha were untrusted slaves of paranoid imperials. To prevent rebellion, the empire had prevented the Yevetha from using FTL communications among their very worlds. Until Nil Spaar explored the nearby stars with an old imperial frigate three years after the uprising they had no frigging clue about the existence of non-yevethans in the Koornacth cluster. At this point of time they have 0 fleet, 0 planetary defenses and 0 regular ground troops. At best, some member of the resistance will have some hand blaster, but none of the heavy stuff. The point is: after the much needed boost, are the borg still laughable?
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-0 Fleet?Murazor wrote:At the point I am talking about, the yevetha were untrusted slaves of paranoid imperials. To prevent rebellion, the empire had prevented the Yevetha from using FTL communications among their very worlds. Until Nil Spaar explored the nearby stars with an old imperial frigate three years after the uprising they had no frigging clue about the existence of non-yevethans in the Koornacth cluster. At this point of time they have 0 fleet, 0 planetary defenses and 0 regular ground troops. At best, some member of the resistance will have some hand blaster, but none of the heavy stuff. The point is: after the much needed boost, are the borg still laughable?
-0 Planetary defences?
-0 regular ground troops?
Sounds like it will be a pretty easy victory for the Borg. They'll just beam up victims to their heart's content and assimilate them. Based upon my upper limit calculations, ten Borg cubes could easily accomodate over 2 billion drones. That would significantly deplete a Earth sized population.
The only problem could be the hyperdrive speed. If one one of the persons on the planet manages to call for help ( and is contacting someone taking him seriously ), reinforcements might arrive before the borg have assimilated the planet.Robert Walper wrote:-0 Fleet?
-0 Planetary defences?
-0 regular ground troops?
Sounds like it will be a pretty easy victory for the Borg. They'll just beam up victims to their heart's content and assimilate them. Based upon my upper limit calculations, ten Borg cubes could easily accomodate over 2 billion drones. That would significantly deplete a Earth sized population.
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Quite possible I suppose. However, one would think the Borg should be able to detect any craft leaving the planetary surface and be able to intercept it. Heck, the Enterprise D routinely did planetary wide scans, one would think ten Borg cubes could accomplish the same feat.HRogge wrote:The only problem could be the hyperdrive speed. If one one of the persons on the planet manages to call for help ( and is contacting someone taking him seriously ), reinforcements might arrive before the borg have assimilated the planet.Robert Walper wrote:-0 Fleet?
-0 Planetary defences?
-0 regular ground troops?
Sounds like it will be a pretty easy victory for the Borg. They'll just beam up victims to their heart's content and assimilate them. Based upon my upper limit calculations, ten Borg cubes could easily accomodate over 2 billion drones. That would significantly deplete a Earth sized population.
I'm talking about someone taking a hypercom and calling for help, maybe sending a few pictures of the borg as a proofe.Robert Walper wrote:Quite possible I suppose. However, one would think the Borg should be able to detect any craft leaving the planetary surface and be able to intercept it. Heck, the Enterprise D routinely did planetary wide scans, one would think ten Borg cubes could accomplish the same feat.
radio for help and several hours later the borgs may get company.
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It'd depend on how badly damaged/incomplete the ISDs are. If it's minor damage/almost finished, they may still be sufficient to beat a mere 10 Borg Cubes even with a skeleton crew. As long as their engines, shields, and weapons are functioning--even at half capacity or so--8 ISDs are going to stomp 10 cubes. If they're completely unmanned or have no weapons or shields, then the Cubes win--assuming also that all the orbital shipyard's fixed gun emplacements are destroyed or otherwise nonfunctional.
While this is a good scenario for the Borg--as in, it gives them a chance to win--it's also ridiculously one-sided depending on interpretation. You're basically saying "If we give the Borg every possible advantage, can they win?"
While this is a good scenario for the Borg--as in, it gives them a chance to win--it's also ridiculously one-sided depending on interpretation. You're basically saying "If we give the Borg every possible advantage, can they win?"
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They are the borg !Kerneth wrote:While this is a good scenario for the Borg--as in, it gives them a chance to win--it's also ridiculously one-sided depending on interpretation. You're basically saying "If we give the Borg every possible advantage, can they win?"
Most likely they will do something stupid, maybe triggering the ISDs self destruct or internal defense mechanisms while trying to learn how to activate the ship...
the only thing more stupid than the borgs in ST ( post bobw ) are redshirts !
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Re: A good scenario for the Borg.
One presumes the Borg will easily assimilate the population. The knowledge of these "tech geniuses" added to the collective should allow the Borg to repair the damage done to the Star Destroyers.Murazor wrote: *Snip* undefended planet with four hundred million of tech geniuses.
With that added knowledge and the shear difference in the levels of technology I imagine the Borg scrap their cubes for parts to add to the Star Destroyers or use them to setup mining facilities for more resources.
I will confess I have not heard of this race. How can they be tech geniuses if they were repressed untrusted slaves of the Empire? Surly if they are such geniuses they would have FTL communication to call for help? Or have been forming a resistance against the Empire or something.
Well. It seems that avalaible information about the Yevetha is a bit sketchy around here. I will try to explain some things for future replies.
The Yevetha were the most extended intelligent species of those few born in the Koornatch cluster, in the Farlax sector, near the Core region. Before the arrival of the empire they had colonized twelve worlds at nearby stars without FTL technology. At this point, the empire started the exploration of Koornatch and found of the Yevetha. And conquered them.
In a very similar way to the Mon Calamari, the Yevetha managed to make a leap in technology of thousands of years at a prize. Being enslaved by beings from beyond the stars. The yevetha culture was based in honour and bloody revenge were it to be destroyed and soon they started to prepare their revenge against the empire.
The yevetha proved to have as an species incredible skills in engineering that the empire decided to use. Three mobile shipyards and the whole Black Sword Fleet was stationed in Koornatch. Shortly after Endor, the empire decided to retreat from the cluster with the only working ship left in the Black Sword fleet: the SSD Intimidator.
In the original timeline, the resistance leader Nil Spaar took control of the ship and the imperial citizens were slaughtered. In this timeline, Nil Spaar has failed and so had done the empire and out of an act of Q, the Borg have appeared in that very moment.
The question is... after the much needed bost and with the resources of thirteen worlds at their disposal, can the borg do something against the Galaxy from their position at the Core?
The Yevetha were the most extended intelligent species of those few born in the Koornatch cluster, in the Farlax sector, near the Core region. Before the arrival of the empire they had colonized twelve worlds at nearby stars without FTL technology. At this point, the empire started the exploration of Koornatch and found of the Yevetha. And conquered them.
In a very similar way to the Mon Calamari, the Yevetha managed to make a leap in technology of thousands of years at a prize. Being enslaved by beings from beyond the stars. The yevetha culture was based in honour and bloody revenge were it to be destroyed and soon they started to prepare their revenge against the empire.
The yevetha proved to have as an species incredible skills in engineering that the empire decided to use. Three mobile shipyards and the whole Black Sword Fleet was stationed in Koornatch. Shortly after Endor, the empire decided to retreat from the cluster with the only working ship left in the Black Sword fleet: the SSD Intimidator.
In the original timeline, the resistance leader Nil Spaar took control of the ship and the imperial citizens were slaughtered. In this timeline, Nil Spaar has failed and so had done the empire and out of an act of Q, the Borg have appeared in that very moment.
The question is... after the much needed bost and with the resources of thirteen worlds at their disposal, can the borg do something against the Galaxy from their position at the Core?
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Well, putting forth a best case scenario, the Borg assimilate every being on those planets. Lots of manpower anyhow.Murazor wrote:Well. It seems that avalaible information about the Yevetha is a bit sketchy around here. I will try to explain some things for future replies.
The Yevetha were the most extended intelligent species of those few born in the Koornatch cluster, in the Farlax sector, near the Core region. Before the arrival of the empire they had colonized twelve worlds at nearby stars without FTL technology. At this point, the empire started the exploration of Koornatch and found of the Yevetha. And conquered them.
In a very similar way to the Mon Calamari, the Yevetha managed to make a leap in technology of thousands of years at a prize. Being enslaved by beings from beyond the stars. The yevetha culture was based in honour and bloody revenge were it to be destroyed and soon they started to prepare their revenge against the empire.
The yevetha proved to have as an species incredible skills in engineering that the empire decided to use. Three mobile shipyards and the whole Black Sword Fleet was stationed in Koornatch. Shortly after Endor, the empire decided to retreat from the cluster with the only working ship left in the Black Sword fleet: the SSD Intimidator.
In the original timeline, the resistance leader Nil Spaar took control of the ship and the imperial citizens were slaughtered. In this timeline, Nil Spaar has failed and so had done the empire and out of an act of Q, the Borg have appeared in that very moment.
The question is... after the much needed bost and with the resources of thirteen worlds at their disposal, can the borg do something against the Galaxy from their position at the Core?
But inevitably a fighter or escape pod will wander into the system and dust the entire Borg fleet. At which point the pilot could casually inform the Imperials about the Borg infestation, and a bored ISD commander with a few minutes to spare can obliterate the entire bunch of them some time later.