A vs movie??

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2004-02-02 12:14am

Episode 3.5- trek wars

I think if there was one, they would make them equal probably in power, wouldn't make it real interesting if one clobbered the other real quick, we'd see a few ISD's destroyed, a few trek ships, maybe some planets.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-02-02 12:16am

Why would they be equal in power?

Shrykull · Post by **Shrykull** » 2004-02-02 12:19am

Ghost Rider wrote:Why would they be equal in power?

just to make the movie more interesting, to drag it out, unless you made it like Wong's fic.

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-02-02 12:23am

Shrykull wrote:
Ghost Rider wrote:Why would they be equal in power?
just to make the movie more interesting, to drag it out, unless you made it like Wong's fic.

Does it do anything for story other then arbitraily drag it out?

This would be making say the TMNT vs Godzilla and making them equal in power for the sole sake of dragging the story out.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 12:32am

Drag out = BAD

Kazuaki Shimazaki · Post by **Kazuaki Shimazaki** » 2004-02-02 12:57am

Shrykull wrote:Episode 3.5- trek wars

I think if there was one, they would make them equal probably in power, wouldn't make it real interesting if one clobbered the other real quick, we'd see a few ISD's destroyed, a few trek ships, maybe some planets.

Please, don't make that canon.

A vs movie could be set up ST style. One ISD runs around rampaging. It keeps winning. They try everything, and it fails. Then comes the ST style deux-ex-machina: the Rebels fleet, which kills the ISD

Not very interesting, but at least it'd be consistent.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 02:04am

And then the Rebels go after the UFP in the cliffhanger ending...

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-02-02 02:33am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:And then the Rebels go after the UFP in the cliffhanger ending...

But by that time the UFP had time to develop a technobabble weapon against the Star Wars forces which causes their ships to hyperspace drive to engage and tear their ship apart.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-02 02:51am

Well, in that case, the Culture shows up and whoops up everybody.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-02 02:54am

*Puts on flameproof suit before opening mouth.* What is this Culture of which you speak?

Durandal · Post by **Durandal** » 2004-02-02 02:55am

Hasn't this been done to death already? Of course it has! Shrykull, the King of Redundancy, posted it.

We've all agreed that a Star Trek vs. Star Wars movie would suck ass precisely because Hollywood would have to make it "interesting" (read: ignore everything that will get in the way of the good guys winning).

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-02-02 02:56am

Rogue 9 wrote:*Puts on flameproof suit before opening mouth.* What is this Culture of which you speak?

In a series of books by one Iain M Banks he writes of about a group called the Culture.

Very powerful being...but fun books. Could google Iain M Banks for more.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2004-02-02 10:59am

Kazuaki Shimazaki wrote:
Shrykull wrote:Episode 3.5- trek wars

I think if there was one, they would make them equal probably in power, wouldn't make it real interesting if one clobbered the other real quick, we'd see a few ISD's destroyed, a few trek ships, maybe some planets.
Please, don't make that canon.

A vs movie could be set up ST style. One ISD runs around rampaging. It keeps winning. They try everything, and it fails. Then comes the ST style deux-ex-machina: the Rebels fleet, which kills the ISD

Not very interesting, but at least it'd be consistent.

Well, they could use technobabble to summon the Rebel fleet. That way, they *do* save the show, in a sort of way

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-02-03 02:17am

No, no movie. As fun as it would be to have this, there are simply too many elements and layers to both universes to be able to easily adapt it into a two-hour movie, at least in my humble opinion. That's why I'm worried about the live-action EVA movies.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-02-03 02:51am

JME2 wrote:No, no movie. As fun as it would be to have this, there are simply too many elements and layers to both universes to be able to easily adapt it into a two-hour movie, at least in my humble opinion. That's why I'm worried about the live-action EVA movies.

Hmm...well, if I made the movie, it would have to be a series of movies, like the Lord of the Rings. Agreeably, the concept is too large to fit into a singe movie.

The movie would come about due to the "quantum reality" theory Trek brought up in that one episode. In other words, the movies would be a crossover of both universes, but because of the "quantum reality" aspect, both "real" universes aren't affected. That gives some leeway for character deaths, overall galactic impacts, etc.

While making this movie, my goal would be to include as many aspects of both franchaise as possible. For example, would want examples of bounty hunters, smugglers, crime lords, Imperial might, etc, etc from Star Wars. And for Star Trek, you'd want to introduce as many aspects as possible from there as well. Like the Federation(of course), Romulans, Klingons, Cardassians, Breen...the Borg.

I'd also try to introduce some concepts for both franchaise that haven't been seen before, but only hinted at. One thing that comes to mind is a hand phaser set to maximum power, wide beam that supposededly can take out half a building. That would make for one hell of an impressive display(for consistency's sake, it would be mentioned said phaser was heavily drained and the Federation frowns heavily upon such destructive application of the weaponry). I'd also have a massive ground battle raging between two forces, and have a single ISD come in with the captain ordering "Bombard the surface, all guns, maximum firepower!". This would result in many dozens of square kilometers burnt and destroyed, with the fighting forces anhiliated.

(ironically, referencing the Star Wars movies only, this would actually be an impressive display)

Most definitely would have to have phaser beams deflected by lightsabers, Jedi and Sith involvement, etc. Just too many goodies I think.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-03 03:05am

Sadly, that would be about a trilogy all by itself. Although it would be awesomely awesome. Hmm. Can't exactly go low budget, the SFX bill would be enormous.

Thunderfire · Post by **Thunderfire** » 2004-02-03 09:56am

This could be considered a "vs" movie.

JME2 · Post by **JME2** » 2004-02-03 10:50am

Rogue 9 wrote:Sadly, that would be about a trilogy all by itself. Although it would be awesomely awesome. Hmm. Can't exactly go low budget, the SFX bill would be enormous.

Well, when one considers that Lucas owns ILM, cost means nothing.

Lt. Dan · Post by **Lt. Dan** » 2004-02-05 11:25pm

An ISD comes in destroying everything in sight. Picard hails the ISD. Captain Picard asks the ISD captin to stop. The ISD captin understands that he is doing something wrong and leaves.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-06 12:09am

JME2 wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Sadly, that would be about a trilogy all by itself. Although it would be awesomely awesome. Hmm. Can't exactly go low budget, the SFX bill would be enormous.
Well, when one considers that Lucas owns ILM, cost means nothing.

That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

Costs always mean everything.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-02-06 12:38am

Starcrossed is the answer to a verus movie

SecondStorm · Post by **SecondStorm** » 2004-02-06 08:08am

NO.

The franchise simply doesnt hold water together IMO.

darthdavid · Post by **darthdavid** » 2004-02-06 02:59pm

Bitch and bastard having the slightest chance at sinking their teeth into starwars? No fucking way.

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-02-06 04:27pm

Agent Fisher wrote:Starcrossed is the answer to a verus movie

Screw that! "Worlds Without End" all the way!

Techno_Union · Post by **Techno_Union** » 2004-02-07 12:00am

Conquest and Starcrossed would most definately be a good story. But the movie would not be a good one, mabye the books or a mini-series.

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