Secret Societies...

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2004-02-05 09:41pm

On CNN right now, they say that Kerry is a member of the 'Skull & Bones' organization. Shrubby's also a member of this. Hearing something like that makes me extremely paranoid.

First, based on their name alone, they sound like a pretty messed up group. Skeletal remains don't normally symbolize positive things. Then there are all of the unsubstantiated rumors about their procedures.

In any case, that many influential people are part of such a strange organization is very disconcerting to me. I don't want the supreme leader of the world to be part of a weird secret group. Any thoughts?

Shogoki · Post by **Shogoki** » 2004-02-05 09:48pm

They just dress up and talk like pirates in their gatherings.

EmperorSolo51 · Post by **EmperorSolo51** » 2004-02-05 09:54pm

Seggybop wrote:On CNN right now, they say that Kerry is a member of the 'Skull & Bones' organization. Shrubby's also a member of this. Hearing something like that makes me extremely paranoid.

First, based on their name alone, they sound like a pretty messed up group. Skeletal remains don't normally symbolize positive things. Then there are all of the unsubstantiated rumors about their procedures.

In any case, that many influential people are part of such a strange organization is very disconcerting to me. I don't want the supreme leader of the world to be part of a weird secret group. Any thoughts?

From what I have heard, it is nothing more than a weird college fraternity at Yale.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-05 09:57pm

ES is right. It's just an ordinary Yale fraternity.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-02-05 10:01pm

Real secret societies are not advertised like this.

The Illuminati that is a secret society.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-02-05 10:05pm

Seggybop wrote:On CNN right now, they say that Kerry is a member of the 'Skull & Bones' organization. Shrubby's also a member of this. Hearing something like that makes me extremely paranoid.

First, based on their name alone, they sound like a pretty messed up group. Skeletal remains don't normally symbolize positive things. Then there are all of the unsubstantiated rumors about their procedures.

In any case, that many influential people are part of such a strange organization is very disconcerting to me. I don't want the supreme leader of the world to be part of a weird secret group. Any thoughts?

Congratulations to you; you've joined the ranks of the world's conspiracy theorists.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-02-05 10:09pm

Some information on the Skull and Bones can be found at the following:

60 Minutes

There are five Bonesmen in Bush's administration, out of roughly 800 that are alive. They were founded in 1832, and have selected 15 students a year at Yale to join the organization. William Taft was a Bonesman, as was the founder of Time magazine.

I can't find anything more that's any more reliable than pure conspiracy theory using a quick search, but that might give you something to go off of.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-05 10:10pm

"Here's a tip; aluminum foil makes a lovely hat, and it blocks the government's mind control rays."

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2004-02-05 10:39pm

x_X

I only thought it was strange that someone who was a member of something that sounds rather evil-sounding would be the leader of the world. I never had any real belief that they're some planetary domination supervillan like thing, but I don't fully trust someone who's a member of something named like this to be the most powerful guy in the world.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2004-02-05 10:53pm

When Joshua Jackson portrays a member in a secret organization in a movie there really isn't anything to worry about.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-05 10:58pm

neoolong wrote:When Joshua Jackson portrays a member in a secret organization in a movie there really isn't anything to worry about.

What if that's part of the plan though?

Have the idea of secret societies seem ludicrous in the eyes of the public. That way no one will question you about it.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-02-05 10:59pm

Seggybop wrote:x_X

I only thought it was strange that someone who was a member of something that sounds rather evil-sounding would be the leader of the world. I never had any real belief that they're some planetary domination supervillan like thing, but I don't fully trust someone who's a member of something named like this to be the most powerful guy in the world.

Why? Would it make it any different if it were called Smiles and Hugs or Tappa Kegga Bru? It's a fraternity and there's been no substantial proof offered otherwise.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-02-05 10:59pm

Gandalf wrote:
neoolong wrote:When Joshua Jackson portrays a member in a secret organization in a movie there really isn't anything to worry about.
What if that's part of the plan though?

Have the idea of secret societies seem ludicrous in the eyes of the public. That way no one will question you about it.

And what the hell makes you think there is something to it?

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2004-02-05 11:43pm

Shaidar Haran wrote:
Seggybop wrote:x_X

I only thought it was strange that someone who was a member of something that sounds rather evil-sounding would be the leader of the world. I never had any real belief that they're some planetary domination supervillan like thing, but I don't fully trust someone who's a member of something named like this to be the most powerful guy in the world.
Why? Would it make it any different if it were called Smiles and Hugs or Tappa Kegga Bru? It's a fraternity and there's been no substantial proof offered otherwise.

There are two annoying qualities that it has. Its operations are secret, and it's name references things generally regarded as not good. If it were either of these alone, it would be of no concern at all. I'm pretty sure that they aren't doing anything too screwed up, but I'm sufficiently paranoid that I don't completely trust them to run the planet.

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-02-06 12:08am

Fools the Patriots control the government they must be stopped.

Oh no they found me.

SPREAD THE WORD!!

HELP!!

BlkbrryTheGreat · Post by **BlkbrryTheGreat** » 2004-02-06 12:23am

Just remember, no matter who you vote for the Government wins.

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-02-06 10:16am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Congratulations to you; you've joined the ranks of the world's conspiracy theorists.

[Dave Mustaine]
Possibly I've seen too much, Hangar 18, I know too much...
[/Dave Mustaine]

Seriously though - while The Skull And Bones Society actually just is a Yale fraternity pretending to be a Freemason-style secret order, there are certain conspiracies which certainly exist.

For example, I am strongly convinced that General Electric, The Edison Institute and the Thomas Edison Foundation are conspiring to keep people in ignorance of Nikola Tesla.

BACK ON TOPIC - if any secret society should be likely to practice "cronyism" and have political influence, it's probably the Freemasons. (but their influence is probably dwarfed by bigger lobby groups)

Hamel · Post by **Hamel** » 2004-02-06 10:20am

The Committee of 300 have their hands in this, of that, there is no doubt

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-02-06 10:27am

Simon, the Freemasons are just a bunch of old men with white aprons and fancy handshakes that sit around and drink beer and scotch one wednesday a month. I am/was a Master Mason.

Bob McDob · Post by **Bob McDob** » 2004-02-07 03:56am

I'm pretty sure they meant Rumsfeld, not Kerry.

(Rumsfeld makes it smooth)

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-07 04:14am

BlkbrryTheGreat wrote:Just remember, no matter who you vote for the Government wins.

And are we saying this over the CB radio in our little basement bunker?

Peregrin Toker · Post by **Peregrin Toker** » 2004-02-07 05:27am

Col. Crackpot wrote:Simon, the Freemasons are just a bunch of old men with white aprons and fancy handshakes that sit around and drink beer and scotch one wednesday a month. I am/was a Master Mason.

I thought that some masonic lodges were business organizations as well?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-07 05:35am

Not the last time I checked.

Axis Kast · Post by **Axis Kast** » 2004-02-07 06:05am

This stuff is almost as good as my father's recollections from life in Soviet-dominated Romania.

All the school systems there espoused the supposed discoveries of a man named Mitchurin, who was apparently responsible for every scientific advance from the wheel to the space shuttle.

In any case, here's an interesting fact: Masonic lodges once admitted Jews. What does this mean? If lodges were admitting persons generally reviled throughout Europe and thought to have agendas of their own by a rather uninformed society, one can basically squash the suppositio that there was any kind of very terrible conspiracy that had to be hidden from everybody else.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2004-02-07 08:41am

Secret Orginizations are fun, though secret orginizations based out of Collages rarley get as much done as open lobbiests who bury senators in wheel-barrels full of money has alot more infulence

(Intresting side note, The Tobaco group uses the worlds greatest Orgami master to construct wheel-barrels out of money thus the greatest money to wheel-barrel ratio is acived)

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