The SDnet Presidential Election

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Who?

Bush
27
25%
Kerry
69
63%
Third Party
3
3%
Independent
2
2%
None of the above
9
8%
 
Total votes: 110

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Rogue 9 wrote:
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Tribun wrote:Hm... Sd.net seems to be overflooded by Democrats...... :lol:
I'm not a Democrat or a Republican. I voted Kerry because he looks to be the Not-Bush vote. As sad as it sounds, I find myself voting against people I really loathe rather than for people I support.

Can you even imagine what the fundies will do once Bush is reelected and doesn't have to worry about appeasing all sides for four years? Fuckin' fundies have to be stopped somewhere or my life is essentially forfeit.
Actually, my government teacher always told us that if there's no one you really agree with then vote against whoever you disagree with most. :wink:
My government teacher told me, "My country, right or wrong!" He along with all my other teachers (this was a PUBLIC high school, mind you) wanted creationism and organized prayer in schools. Then he made us watch Bill O'Reilly shows and refused to hear any legitimate criticisms of any of the idiocy that we heard on the show (not that he stopped me from saying them, but he didn't listen to me). And he enjoyed making girls cower before his grand five-foot height and was quite confused when not only was I not afraid of him, but I mocked him and everything he said to his face in the middle of class. And made good points.

I don't put much stock in anything government teachers have to say. :P

At least Kerry doesn't look to be a fundie nutcase, and that's all the agreement I need.
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He'll have another term to look forward to if he performs well, so he'll have greater incentive not to piss people off.
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Where'd you go to HS in Georgia, Maya?
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Joe wrote:Where'd you go to HS in Georgia, Maya?
You know where Commerce is? It's north up 441 when you leave Athens, about twenty miles. I don't know if you know much about the shopping scene but it's where the big outlet malls are. That's how most people know about the town.
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Yeah, Commerce. I've been up 441 a couple of times.
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I say we take Jon Stewart's suggestion and storm the Bastille! :P Although that was in response to the general messed up qualities of the whole system and not just against bush.
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Well my government teacher was awesomeness incarnate. So there. :P
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Hamel wrote:Your thoughts on that would be wrong,
Prove it. Oops.
but I doubt the lack of evidence to support your conclusion would change your mind.
Likewise.
Iraq didn't attack the US. Did you lose your marbles at CPAC or something?
Manson didn't put the knife into Sharon Tate either. And I didn't say Iraq attacked the U.S. Reading is fundamental.
I'm sure you don't give a flying fuck about the facts either.
I'm sure I don't give a flying fuck what you think of my opinions on the matter. Oh, and when you can point to absolute, 100% proof that Iraq had never dealt with terrorists, or couldn't possibly have access to WMDs, let me know.
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The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Devil you know Vs. devil you don't.
More as I see it, Devil you know who won't have to worry about reelection Vs. Devil you don't who will have to worry about reelection.
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Oh, and when you can point to absolute, 100% proof that Iraq had never dealt with terrorists, or couldn't possibly have access to WMDs, let me know.
Poe, I agree with you and all, but that's asking for proof of a negative.
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Rogue 9 wrote:
Oh, and when you can point to absolute, 100% proof that Iraq had never dealt with terrorists, or couldn't possibly have access to WMDs, let me know.
Poe, I agree with you and all, but that's asking for proof of a negative.
Exactly.
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Lord Poe wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:Poe, I agree with you and all, but that's asking for proof of a negative.
Exactly.
Huh? Are you aware that he's pointing out a fallacy?
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Darth Wong wrote:Huh? Are you aware that he's pointing out a fallacy?
Yes, I am.
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Poe must've had a bag of expired doritos
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Okay, there's a disconnect in here somewhere. :?
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Nope, its quite simple. I've been watching the news, reading the papers. I've yet to see one report where there's 100% proof Bush lied about WMD in Iraq. I've yet to see one bit of 100% conclusive proof that Bush invaded Iraq because he felt like it. If we're going to nitpick one another over absolute facts, let's do it evenly.

But that's neither here nor there. I gave my opinion like everyone else.
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Andrew J. wrote:I say we take Jon Stewart's suggestion and storm the Bastille! :P Although that was in response to the general messed up qualities of the whole system and not just against bush.
That tears it, I need to watch more daily show.
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SyntaxVorlon wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:I say we take Jon Stewart's suggestion and storm the Bastille! :P Although that was in response to the general messed up qualities of the whole system and not just against bush.
That tears it, I need to watch more daily show.
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Going for Kerry, just because CA will have zero chance of going with a Republican anyway. So... let's just be cynical and make it a landslide for Kerry in the Golden state.
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RedImperator wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:I say we take Jon Stewart's suggestion and storm the Bastille! :P Although that was in response to the general messed up qualities of the whole system and not just against bush.
That tears it, I need to watch more daily show.
"America is as the point where it's too late to change the system from within and too early to hang the bastards." I really wish I remember who said that.
I know Claire Wolfe said something similar, "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards."
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Lord Poe wrote:Nope, its quite simple. I've been watching the news, reading the papers. I've yet to see one report where there's 100% proof Bush lied about WMD in Iraq. I've yet to see one bit of 100% conclusive proof that Bush invaded Iraq because he felt like it. If we're going to nitpick one another over absolute facts, let's do it evenly.
One can come to a conclusion without a black/white demand for "100% conclusive proof". There isn't 100% conclusive proof that OJ Simpson isn't still searching for the real killers either, but that doesn't mean you can't come to a conclusion.
But that's neither here nor there. I gave my opinion like everyone else.
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If only we could use the breakthroughs in genetic research to make an unholy hybrid of Kerry and Bush.
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RedImperator wrote:
SyntaxVorlon wrote:
Andrew J. wrote:I say we take Jon Stewart's suggestion and storm the Bastille! :P Although that was in response to the general messed up qualities of the whole system and not just against bush.
That tears it, I need to watch more daily show.
"America is as the point where it's too late to change the system from within and too early to hang the bastards." I really wish I remember who said that.
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I'll probably vote Kerry, but that's subject to serious change before November.
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