Question for the young folk. (21 and under)

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-16 07:27am

As some of you know, I assist on a Sydney radio show. They've decreed that I can have airtime if I can speak on the concerns on young people, politically economically and such.

So for the young folk, what concerns you? Worries you? Makes you happy about the world?

Ooh I feel like a reporter.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-02-16 07:27am

Sex, i need sex.

Admiral Valdemar · Post by **Admiral Valdemar** » 2004-02-16 07:31am

Tuition fees.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-02-16 07:33am

The general public's ignorance on political and economical issues that really matter and will greatly affect their very future.

I'm sure you know what I'm talking about.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-02-16 07:36am

Admiral Valdemar wrote:Tuition fees.

may I take this opportunity to point and laugh?

Oh, and to tell everyone to NOT vote for that scumbag Blair EVER again.

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-02-16 07:37am

i hate tuition fee's, luckily the new system won't affect me... i just miss out thank god!!!

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-16 07:39am

Sorry for not being English here, but would someone be able to explain in more detail what's going on with your tuition fees?

Zac Naloen · Post by **Zac Naloen** » 2004-02-16 07:41am

Um... something to do with being raised from about 1000 a year, to 3000 a year but paid off over a longer period. Supposed to make uni's better BUT means bigger debts for the students in the long run.

Shinova · Post by **Shinova** » 2004-02-16 07:45am

I don't know how much that's in US dollars, but it can't possibly compare to our colleges' 24,000 to 35,000 dollar tuitions. Thankfully, mines is much much lower.

Gunshy · Post by **Gunshy** » 2004-02-16 07:49am

More white collar jobs going overseas...Hmmm...I guess that's more of an American problem, though. So while that worries me, I guess some of you overseas might be happy (Well, maybe only if you live in China, or India).

And this might sound really lame, but I'm happiest when I'm with my family.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-16 07:52am

Thanks guys, kick ass input. Keep it coming.

InnerBrat · Post by **InnerBrat** » 2004-02-16 07:57am

Shinova wrote:I don't know how much that's in US dollars, but it can't possibly compare to our colleges' 24,000 to 35,000 dollar tuitions. Thankfully, mines is much much lower.

And you have a tiered education system, with the rich getting the best education.

We're trying to close our class gaps with regards to education, not reinforce them.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-02-16 08:14am

InnerBrat wrote: And you have a tiered education system, with the rich getting the best education.

We're trying to close our class gaps with regards to education, not reinforce them.

State-funded higher education has never worked. We (us Americans I mean) got real lathered up about the fact that the USSR was pulling ahead in the technical sciences, graduating massive numbers of people with technical degrees, in fact Masters degrees or better, back in The Bad Old Days. Caused a bit of a scare on Congress, got a bunch of education acts passed.

Truth of the matter was that a Soviet citizen with a Master's degree in the sciences over there was so over-specialized and deficient in many categories of learning that, at least for the period, he or she might not be much more knowledgable than someone with a technical certificate over here. So much for state-funded free higher education. And then we go and implement massive funding support to meet this nonexistant gap, and of course our own education system gets worse and worse commisurate to the level that Congress plays around with it..

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-16 08:47am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: State-funded higher education has never worked.

Oh, but it does. Maybe not in the US, but in Germany, university education is free! They are trying to change that though - but the fees won't go to the universities, but to the state, to fix some budget holes that have nothing to do with that.

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2004-02-16 08:49am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:State-funded higher education has never worked.

Hmm strange and I thought we had doctors and stuff here in Sweden, guess I must be wrong then.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-02-16 09:07am

Faram wrote: Hmm strange and I thought we had doctors and stuff here in Sweden, guess I must be wrong then.

Well, public universities are one thing, but I should have specifically said free higher education for the whole populace. That was actually tried in California after a fashion but didn't work--all of the Community Colleges there were free once but they couldn't keep up any standards of quality and had to revert to fees for classes, though they are still rather small.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-16 09:40am

Economic status, for one. I.e., how hard/easy it is to find jobs in certain areas of the country.

Education standards. I.e., what standards young people have to look forward to in not only college, but as early as middle school.

Fine arts. I.e., how more and more schools are focusing on academics, and not giving the kids a chance to do anything outside of band and chorus. Orchestra is becoming a lost art, if you will.

~ver

Faram · Post by **Faram** » 2004-02-16 09:47am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:Well, public universities are one thing, but I should have specifically said free higher education for the whole populace. That was actually tried in California after a fashion but didn't work--all of the Community Colleges there were free once but they couldn't keep up any standards of quality and had to revert to fees for classes, though they are still rather small.

Well all education here is free, the only costs is that of living while geting the education and for some books.

Mr Flibble · Post by **Mr Flibble** » 2004-02-16 10:00am

Gandalf wrote:As some of you know, I assist on a Sydney radio show. They've decreed that I can have airtime if I can speak on the concerns on young people, politically economically and such.

So for the young folk, what concerns you? Worries you? Makes you happy about the world?

Ooh I feel like a reporter.

Although I am 22, so above your age group, one of my major concerns, which is Australia specific (and was when I was 21) is that something serious is not done about the Murray soon, we are gooing to lose large areas of our arable land to salt, we have to little arable land as it is, to waste it for short term economic gain.

muse · Post by **muse** » 2004-02-16 10:55am

It worries me that the province I live in is being ruined by an incompetant fool of a premier. It worries me that so many people voted for said idiot. I love where I live right now and there are many opportunities open to me in the future right now, but if things keep going the way they are that will no longer be true and I'll have to consider moving again.

BoredShirtless · Post by **BoredShirtless** » 2004-02-16 11:26am

Gandalf, I think you'll appeal more to your Sydney audience if you talk about issues which trouble Sydney's youth. For example, what's the big deal with building a skateboard ramp in Mosman? Is Mosman just a hive of pompous hags, or do they have legitimate concerns?

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-16 11:32am

State-funded higher education has never worked. We (us Americans I mean) got real lathered up about the fact that the USSR was pulling ahead in the technical sciences, graduating massive numbers of people with technical degrees, in fact Masters degrees or better, back in The Bad Old Days. Caused a bit of a scare on Congress, got a bunch of education acts passed.

Incidenatally, UGA has a whole row of buildings built in response to that.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-02-16 11:46am

Joe wrote: Incidenatally, UGA has a whole row of buildings built in response to that.

A quaint reminder, rather. *snerk* Speaking of which, have you ever heard of Why Johnny Can't Read: And what you can do about it? Great book to capture the feel of the period.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-02-16 11:50am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote: Well, public universities are one thing, but I should have specifically said free higher education for the whole populace. That was actually tried in California after a fashion but didn't work--all of the Community Colleges there were free once but they couldn't keep up any standards of quality and had to revert to fees for classes, though they are still rather small.

Hrm. Don't public European universities simply raise the bar to ensure that they don't get swamped with students?

Howedar · Post by **Howedar** » 2004-02-16 11:51am

I'm worried about jobs going overseas. I'm worried about what's going to happen when all of the heavily-in-debt people realize they can't retire, meaning more unemployment. I'm worried about how overall the US is breeding idiots, because there's no longer any natural selection. I'm worried about my GPA.

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