A TIE rams a Federation ship...

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-17 04:28am

What would happen is a TIE fighter were to ram a Federation ship, something along the lines of a GCS or a Soverign.

I remember that A-Wing did some damage to the Executor, so a TIE, which is not as strong, might screw up a Federation ship.

Any ideas?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-17 04:30am

The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-17 04:31am

Well, if we take the original X-wing to be any indication, ramming a TIE does less to a Y-wing than taking a proton torpedo or even concussion missile.

But that doesn't really count. Depends on the ship, I'd say. A Sovereign could likely take the impact. Maybe the Defiant because its just so darn tough. It'd really screw up a Constitution or early Excelsior, though.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-02-17 05:01am

and what about the ships shields than?

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-17 05:36am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.

After the Executors bridge deflector was shot down.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-17 06:29am

It would burst against the shields, doing no real damage.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-17 06:46am

GySgt. Hartman wrote:It would burst against the shields, doing no real damage.

Are you sure, we often see Jem' Hadar ramming ships that have taken no damage. No shields stop them.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-17 07:13am

Jemhader attack ships are bigger and much heavier than TIE fighters.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-17 07:14am

A TIE might be able to destroy an unshielded GCS if it can hit one of the nacelles.

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-17 07:14am

Yes but you never see any reactions with the shields.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-17 09:45am

HRogge wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.
After the Executors bridge deflector was shot down.

That didn't have anything to do with my point, thanks.

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-02-17 11:31am

It would depend on the model of Tie Fighter, it's speed, and where it hit

The best way to figure it out is, how fast do the bastards go, and what's there mass?

In my opinion, the order of damage would be (lowest damage to highest)
Tie Bomber (unloaded) Heavy, but slow
Tie Fighter
Starwing Gunboat
Tie Interceptor
Starwing Missilegoat
Tie Advanced/Avenger
Tie Defender
Skipray Blastboat
MissileBoat after it's shields are fully charged, lasers fully charged, Tractor Beam fully charged, with all power to engines and SLAMS on, while pumping shield power into the lasers to drain into the SLAM
(I've gotten a MB up to that speed before It was at 4.5X the speed of a Tie Fighter, or roughly 3 1/2 that of an A-Wing)

Ma Deuce · Post by **Ma Deuce** » 2004-02-17 11:40am

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.

You must also remember that that A-wing probably had at least a partial load of concussion missiles on board (A-wings can carry up to 12). TIE Fighters or Interceptors (at least the OT ones) don't carry any warheads.

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-02-17 02:27pm

Solauren wrote:Snip
Starwing Missilegoat

The empires new secret weapon?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-17 02:32pm

Ma Deuce wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.
You must also remember that that A-wing probably had at least a partial load of concussion missiles on board (A-wings can carry up to 12). TIE Fighters or Interceptors (at least the OT ones) don't carry any warheads.

And? What about them? They didn't have anything to do with the actual ramming.

wautd · Post by **wautd** » 2004-02-17 02:32pm

if it is as lethal as it sounds...

*shivers*

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-17 02:55pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Ma Deuce wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:The A-wing rammed Executor's bridge window, just to clarify.
You must also remember that that A-wing probably had at least a partial load of concussion missiles on board (A-wings can carry up to 12). TIE Fighters or Interceptors (at least the OT ones) don't carry any warheads.
And? What about them? They didn't have anything to do with the actual ramming.

No, but it means that there are explosives onboard that would also go off when the fighter blew up. This adds to the explosive power.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2004-02-17 02:57pm

But not to the actual ramming.

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-17 03:49pm

Rogue 9 wrote:No, but it means that there are explosives onboard that would also go off when the fighter blew up. This adds to the explosive power.

Not all kind of warhead/bombs explode when the vehicle explodes... a fusion bomb would NOT explode ( as an example ).

Ender · Post by **Ender** » 2004-02-17 04:10pm

Depends entirely on the speed at which it hits and the mass of a TIE, both of which are unknown.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-17 04:27pm

HRogge wrote:
Rogue 9 wrote:No, but it means that there are explosives onboard that would also go off when the fighter blew up. This adds to the explosive power.
Not all kind of warhead/bombs explode when the vehicle explodes... a fusion bomb would NOT explode ( as an example ).

Concussion missiles are not fusion bombs. I know that nuclear devices don't just go off by accident, but are concussion missiles nuclear?

HRogge · Post by **HRogge** » 2004-02-17 05:07pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Concussion missiles are not fusion bombs. I know that nuclear devices don't just go off by accident, but are concussion missiles nuclear?

We don't know how Conc. missiles work, so we have no idea if they would detonate. Everything requiring some kind of complex activator would not explode...

Kamakazie Sith · Post by **Kamakazie Sith** » 2004-02-17 06:14pm

Gandalf wrote:
GySgt. Hartman wrote:It would burst against the shields, doing no real damage.
Are you sure, we often see Jem' Hadar ramming ships that have taken no damage. No shields stop them.

They are also a bit larger than a TIE

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-02-17 07:48pm

Gandalf wrote:What would happen is a TIE fighter were to ram a Federation ship, something along the lines of a GCS or a Soverign.

I remember that A-Wing did some damage to the Executor, so a TIE, which is not as strong, might screw up a Federation ship.

Any ideas?

Honestly like Ender said...Mass and speed of object because without either...I could say it shreds through the ship or does nothing but create a smudge on the shields.

SPOOFE · Post by **SPOOFE** » 2004-02-17 09:43pm

Well, hell... just figger out a TIE's max acceleration (probably several thousand G's, like other small SW craft), its mass, and then all you need is to calculate how long it needs to accelerate 'fore dealing a killing blow to a GCS. How fast would it need to be going before, say, its KE was roughly equivalent to a 600-megaton blast?

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