Evangelion

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2002-10-14 12:45pm

hey

I just heard about this anime, and I was wondering if somebody could just give me a general overview of the plot, and what the Angels actually are(and what they look like)

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 12:48pm

Any description of the plot would contain spoilers.

Any explenation of the Angels would be spoilers.

The Angels varry in their appearence. From bipedal monsters, to gigantic cubes, to huge rings.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 12:53pm

Okay, basically it's 2015, 15 years after Second Impact, which killed half the world population and changed the axial tilt of the Earth, so it's perpetually Summer worldwide.

The UN sponsored organisation known as NERV uses the Evangelion androids, which are based on the Angels and piloted by 14 year old children, to fight them, to prevent Third Impact from occuring.

Anything else would be spoilers.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-14 12:53pm

Have an honest review of Evangelion.

http://www.nothing-sacred.net/articles/1/109/

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 12:55pm

Boy, is that guy clueless. And bitchy.

Nice that he payed enough attention to fuck up so many facts.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-14 01:18pm

Not everybody who watches Evangelion for the first time has someone handy who has seen the movies, read the White Cross book, and been around the fan community to explain everything. This guy watched it cold turkey and that's what you get. I've seen the show, I understood it, and I still think its terrible!

Tatterdemalion · Post by **Tatterdemalion** » 2002-10-14 01:26pm

Thus proving that you really need to watch the series at least twice over to get a vague idea of the greater plot. (Since many scenes explaining the relevent details our whiney friend bitched about are in a complex and often unclear order.)

It helps to get a vague understanding of what happens in the movie after you've watched the series too.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2002-10-14 01:33pm

Well does the show really have religious elements, or is it just superficial?

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 01:34pm

The religious elements used in the show and the films are just for thematic/plot purposes. They are not used in any pro/anti-religious way.

neoolong · Post by **neoolong** » 2002-10-14 01:39pm

VF5SS wrote:Not everybody who watches Evangelion for the first time has someone handy who has seen the movies, read the White Cross book, and been around the fan community to explain everything. This guy watched it cold turkey and that's what you get. I've seen the show, I understood it, and I still think its terrible!

What's the White Cross book?

Oh and I've seen Evangelion and think that I understand most of it. The only thing that I don't get is how if only a select number of people can be pilots, that they don't strike unless they get paid a huge amount of money. I mean I would ask for my own fricking mansion with a bunch of servants and shit. That and if I was piloting the most powerful weapon in the world(pretty much) I would be demanding a huge salary or else I would go Godzilla on their asses.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-14 01:40pm

Shinj is too much a wuss to demand anything. Hell he's just a ripoff of Amuro Ray, only much more pussified.

Guardsman Bass · Post by **Guardsman Bass** » 2002-10-14 01:44pm

How I became interested in this anime is kind of interesting(to me) I saw the music video for Weird Al's "I think I'm a Clone Now" which uses Evangelion anime for it. I didn't know what anime it was that he used, so I looked around and found out about it.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 01:56pm

He means the Red Cross Book; the unofficial name for the End of Evangelion program that was sold when the film premired in Japan.

If you strike, they'll just fire/kill you and find another pilot. Good Eva pilots are hard to find, so they force them to do it. If you were given the choice of "Pilot the Eva to prevent the end of the world, or we'll kill you," what would you choose?

Besides, if you decided to rebel while piloting, they could just switch to the Dummy Plug or just remotely kill you.

I'm going to try not to get involved in an anime discussion, since I happpen to get really defensive about it.

Slartibartfast · Post by **Slartibartfast** » 2002-10-14 03:05pm

VF5SS wrote:Have an honest review of Evangelion.

http://www.nothing-sacred.net/articles/1/109/

It's a nothing but set up with no payoff.

Indeed, how true. I really can't understand why so many anime fans think Evangelion is la créme de la créme.

IMO, the Japanese should have stopped right after the original Macross (or a couple of years afterwards, at most) and then start working on their acting skills to make decent shows instead of Liveman

. I mean these guys were 100% responsible for the creation of the Power Rangers! gackk...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-10-14 03:28pm

Eva is all about the the consequences of the failure to communicate. A happy ending would have been inappropriate.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 03:39pm

Durran Korr wrote:Eva is all about the the consequences of the failure to communicate. A happy ending would have been inappropriate.

What? What makes you think that's what it's about?

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-14 03:43pm

I saw the first Evangelion (subtitled, mind you) at DragonCon about 5 years ago. I found in very interesting. When I saw it was going to come on WB, I had to see it. I was thoroughly disappointed.

I have not watched it since and haven't tried to see the "real" version. Eva is good, but don't ever think about watching the US version. It reeks.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 03:53pm

Wait, you mean Evangelion's actually been aired?

When was this? I thought Eva was unairable.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-10-14 03:56pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:Eva is all about the the consequences of the failure to communicate. A happy ending would have been inappropriate.
What? What makes you think that's what it's about?

Look at Shinji; throughout the series, he is constantly afraid of communicating with others for fear of being betrayed and hurt, but in a twist of irony, it is this isolation that ends up prolonging his sadness and misery even further. Rei has the same problem; she is even more lonely and communication-impaired than Shinji.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-14 04:00pm

Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Wait, you mean Evangelion's actually been aired?

When was this? I thought Eva was unairable.

Neon Genisis Evangelion.

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2002-10-14 04:03pm

Kelly Antilles wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Wait, you mean Evangelion's actually been aired?

When was this? I thought Eva was unairable.
Neon Genisis Evangelion.

Yeah, they're the same thing, we just shorten it to Eva whenever we talk about it.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-14 04:13pm

ok, then yeah. WB got ahold of it and cut it all to hell.

Spanky The Dolphin · Post by **Spanky The Dolphin** » 2002-10-14 04:29pm

Durran Korr wrote:
Spanky The Dolphin wrote:
Durran Korr wrote:Eva is all about the the consequences of the failure to communicate. A happy ending would have been inappropriate.
What? What makes you think that's what it's about?
Look at Shinji; throughout the series, he is constantly afraid of communicating with others for fear of being betrayed and hurt, but in a twist of irony, it is this isolation that ends up prolonging his sadness and misery even further. Rei has the same problem; she is even more lonely and communication-impaired than Shinji.

I can see your point. While that's an integral part of the series, I don't think it's the main theme.

Kelly: Weird. I still stand that Eva is unairable, though.

Kelly Antilles · Post by **Kelly Antilles** » 2002-10-14 04:35pm

I agreee, Spanky. I was unable to follow it at all.

VF5SS · Post by **VF5SS** » 2002-10-14 05:32pm

Eva can't be shown on America because it is borderline child porn. Fanservice can be a bad thing...