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It's official: Horowitz is a tin foil nutter

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His newest project, [url=hhtp://followthenetwork.org]followthenetwork.org[/url] (mirror site), will soon launch. Right now it's all the buzz on lefty blogs.
Horowitz wrote:Ben Johnson's lead feature on today's frontpagemag.com was made possible as the result of a new project we have been working on for almost a year and which will be ready for launch later this spring. The project is a massive database on the left to be called followthenetwork.org. The research that went into Ben's article was the work of many hands engaged in putting together this database, but in the immediate case Mike Bauer's more than others. Mike is part of a team of writers and editors that is currently engaged in putting together the aforementioned site -- a long time ambition of mine -- which I am convinced will be an invaluable aid to journalists, researchers and activists attempting to penetrate the labyrinthine networks and layered fronts through which the left is able to carry on its corrosive agendas.
The stats?
http://www.rmpn.org/weblog/archives/permalink/001104.cfm wrote:---10,000 records and 80 MB of data

---Massive numbers of individual academics across the nation. Clear proof that the academic bill of rights, and Horowitz, are all about McCarthy-ite blacklisting of academics.


--Virtually every GLBT group in the country, including the Gill Foundation in Colorado.

--Some weird choices blacklisted, such as the Adult Right to Read Program at Pike's Peak Community College

--Pinko funding organizations including the Pew Charitable Trusts, the Henry Kaiser Family Foundation, and the Ford Foundation all in the crosshairs
The left is out to get lil Dave. Check out some people on the list:
http://www.crookedtimber.org/archives/001337.html wrote: * Troy Duster. Described as a “Radical black sociologist.” Duster teaches at NYU is a past-president of the American Sociological Association.

* Jamal Ahmen Al-Fadl. Described as “bin Laden lieutenant, Sudanese … Helped Sudan’s ruling NIF build world’s then-largest complex of terrorist training camps.”

* Bruce Ackerman, “‘Progressive’ academic.” Ackerman is Sterling Professor of Law and Political Science at Yale University.

* Ben Ali Zinedine, ” President General of Tunisia’s democratic government.”

* Joan Baez, “singer, radical.”

* Osama Bin Laden, “Saudi Arabian financier … Issued fatwa calling for Muslims to kill Americans and Jews everywhere in the world. CIA notified Congress of this.”

* Barbara Reskin, “progressive academic.” Reskin is professor of sociology at the University of Washington and a former president of the American Sociological Association.

* Ahmad A. Ajaj, ” Associate of first WTC bombers. From Houston. Pizza deliveryman. ‘Mysterious connections and unlimited funds.’”

* Mary Waters, “‘Progressive’” academic. Waters is Professor of Sociology and Chair of the Department at Harvard University

* Mohammed Ali, “Special operations chief for Osama bin Laden in USA.”

* Michael Walzer, “political theorist.” Walzer is Professor at the Institute for Advanced Study.

* Ayman Al-Zawhiri is “Second in command of al-Qaeda.”
As we all know, big shots in middle eastern terrorist organizations are part of the Vast Left Wing Conspiracy :wink:

Remember, this is the same guy tagging along with the Students for Academic Freedom, which had this to say in one of their organizational pamphlets:

4. Curricula and reading lists in the humanities and social sciences will respect the uncertainty and unsettled character of all human knowledge in these areas and provide students with dissenting sources and viewpoints.

The codewording should be easy for all to decipher. In other words, conservative christians want to introduce religious propaganda into college courses, and blacklist the faculty when they don't get their way. Horowitz and his cohorts don't have an interest in equality on campuses, they wants things THEIR WAY, or it's the highway, blacklist style.
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and he more nutty than Noam Chompsky.... how, exactly?
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Just so you know, I'm a member of our campus SAF.

We see a problem with bias in the school, and we want to change it. We are working towards ending ALL bias, left and right. If some professor starts spewing crap by some radical rightist, then we'll go after them too, it just never seems to happen as much as people are spewing crap by radical leftists. Do you disagree that having bias in the classroom is a bad thing?

That RMPN site looks like a load of scheisse to me anyways. Horowitz is a Marxist? Riiiiiight... You might be able to call him alot of things, but Marxist is hardly the right term. I also like the name calling 'HorrorWitch'. Really looks nice and professional, and very objective, too.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:and he more nutty than Noam Chompsky.... how, exactly?
What's so nutty about Noam Chomsky?
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Vympel wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:and he more nutty than Noam Chompsky.... how, exactly?
What's so nutty about Noam Chomsky?
Noam Chompsky has made millions of dollars selling books and pamphlets whose purpose is to inform the reader that it is evil and wrong to make millions of dollars. hmmmmmm :roll:
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Odd, considering that Chomsky is supposed to be primarily a linguist...
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Col. Crackpot wrote:Noam Chompsky has made millions of dollars selling books and pamphlets whose purpose is to inform the reader that it is evil and wrong to make millions of dollars. hmmmmmm :roll:
Have you ever read any Chomsky?
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Odd, considering that Chomsky is supposed to be primarily a linguist...
A good one, too, but unfortunately he ventures out of his field quite a bit.
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Vympel wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:Noam Chompsky has made millions of dollars selling books and pamphlets whose purpose is to inform the reader that it is evil and wrong to make millions of dollars. hmmmmmm :roll:
Have you ever read any Chomsky?
some. I find him odd and self contraditory. He rails against athority and dominiation, even goes so far as to call himself a 'Classical Liberal'. But the ultimate form of decentralized free comerce, the capitalist free market, he finds supremely flawed and argues for more control. But how do you control it without authority. :roll:
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Chomsky is a left anarchist, as far as I'm aware, and implicit in left anarchism is a rejection of the profit motive. So it's hypocritical for him to profit from the sale of his books (which tend to be very highly priced, esp. for college students, I might add).
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Nathan F wrote:Just so you know, I'm a member of our campus SAF.

We see a problem with bias in the school, and we want to change it. We are working towards ending ALL bias, left and right. If some professor starts spewing crap by some radical rightist, then we'll go after them too, it just never seems to happen as much as people are spewing crap by radical leftists. Do you disagree that having bias in the classroom is a bad thing?
Make no mistake, I supported your efforts when you took action at your U. The problem is one can't end bias in the classroom by replacing it with one's own, which is what Horowitz and his cronies want.
That RMPN site looks like a load of scheisse to me anyways. Horowitz is a Marxist? Riiiiiight... You might be able to call him alot of things, but Marxist is hardly the right term. I also like the name calling 'HorrorWitch'. Really looks nice and professional, and very objective, too.
IMO, he earned names like Whorowitz and HorrorWitch because he's riding on the back of a noble cause in order to sneak his own biases into the system. I know that my source sets off alarms in your head, but Horowitz's site is right there for everyone to see. No lefty could or would fabricate this sort of monster.
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Col. Crackpot wrote:and he more nutty than Noam Chompsky.... how, exactly?
I don't know what kind of porter house steak you've been eating, man~ Whatever it is, I want a big huge marinated cut because the nutty enigma known as Chomsky has dick and squat to do with Horowitz
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Hamel wrote:
Col. Crackpot wrote:and he more nutty than Noam Chompsky.... how, exactly?
I don't know what kind of porter house steak you've been eating, man~ Whatever it is, I want a big huge marinated cut because the nutty enigma known as Chomsky has dick and squat to do with Horowitz
But he does. he's a nut of another variety.... the exact opposite variety to be precise. Making the bowl of nuts a tasty mix of cashews and almonds..... or anarchists and facists as it were. regardless, it evens out in the end. THAT is what's important.

and thanks for the steak. yum-my!
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How is this going to lead to McCarthyist blacklisting? Everyone knows its biased and whatnot--only other right-wing nutters are going to use it.

I fail to see what the big fucking deal is.
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If there's any conspiracy which is real and to be feared, it is not that "Eee-vil Commie Conspiracy" spoken of by Horowitz.

No, there's a very real and very important conspiracy involving the Edison Institute, General Electric and to some extent the Smithsonian Institution - together, they're working behind the scenes to remove all mention of Nikola Tesla from books and the museums. They have apparently succeeded in making most of the people benefiting from Tesla's inventions forget who enabled us to use AC power.... but General Electric nonetheless failed to stop the naming of a unit of measurement after Tesla, as well as the inclusion of Tesla coils and Tesla troopers in the "Red Alert" games. GO TESLA!

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BTW - while Horowitz is at it, why can't he just go the full 9 yards and shoehorn space aliens, the Vatican and all the usual suspects into his paranoid fantasies?
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Someone should tell Horowitz that when you make an enemies list and everybody's on it, maybe it's time to get into a new line of work.
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The codewording should be easy for all to decipher. In other words, conservative christians want to introduce religious propaganda into college courses, and blacklist the faculty when they don't get their way. Horowitz and his cohorts don't have an interest in equality on campuses, they wants things THEIR WAY, or it's the highway, blacklist style.
Bullshit. You're the one with the tin foil hat.

The Students for Academic Freedom are more interested in preventing biology teachers from assigning papers about why the War in Iraq was a terrible violation of human rights and international law. Their basis is certainly conservative, but that doesn't automatically make them Christian fundamentalists.

I also fail to see how "humanities" and "social sciences" could have been infiltrated by the espousers of Creationism, since that's a matter for the physical sciences.
What's so nutty about Noam Chomsky?
Quotes such as this:

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Talk about conspiracy theories ... :roll:
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Axis Kast wrote: Talk about conspiracy theories ... :roll:
As if that's something bad?

Conspiracy theories don't have to be paranoid fantasies about EEE-VIL commie conspiracies trying to take over the world, or the UN being a sinister plot to unify the world under a Satanist dictator.

My conspiracy theory about General Electric working to keep the public in ignorance of Nikola Tesla is most definately very plausible, considering that one of GE's founders were Tesla's arch-enemy Edison.
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The term "conspiracy theory" generally carries a negative connotation, as was the case when last I used it.

Most people tend to reject conspiracy theories on the basis of logical observation: the scale of the events in question (as well as, oftentimes, the resources and agenda necessary to effect them) are generally so massive and overarching as to defy coordination by the often shady or bungling groups indited for their supposed advocacy.

In any case ... what does it profit General Electric to bury Nikola Tesla?
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Axis Kast wrote:The term "conspiracy theory" generally carries a negative connotation, as was the case when last I used it.

Most people tend to reject conspiracy theories on the basis of logical observation: the scale of the events in question (as well as, oftentimes, the resources and agenda necessary to effect them) are generally so massive and overarching as to defy coordination by the often shady or bungling groups indited for their supposed advocacy.

In any case ... what does it profit General Electric to bury Nikola Tesla?
Read a little history, you'll realize why GE hates Tesla. Hatred tends to be the reason for alot of things, including getting names out of books.
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Axis Kast wrote:In any case ... what does it profit General Electric to bury Nikola Tesla?
Tesla was an employee of Westinghouse, which is a rival of General Electric.

AC power is - more than any other tech - to thank for the electrification of the world. During the 1880s and 1890s, Westinghouse promoted use of AC (as it was invented by Tesla) while GE tried to stop the introduction of AC. GE's efforts turned out to be in vain.

If GE could erase all memory of Tesla and Westinghouse's role in replacing DC with AC, it would look like GE didn't attempt to stop technological progress and GE, not Westinghouse, are to thank for the introduction of AC and the electrification of humanity.
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Spanky The Dolphin wrote:Odd, considering that Chomsky is supposed to be primarily a linguist...
A good one, too, but unfortunately he ventures out of his field quite a bit.
His constant scuffles with Skinner on the origins of linguistic knowledge in humans mad me dislike the guy every English Lang. lesson.
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Just got to rereading this, but how is this 'proof' of McCarthyism?
---10,000 records and 80 MB of data

---Massive numbers of individual academics across the nation. Clear proof that the academic bill of rights, and Horowitz, are all about McCarthy-ite blacklisting of academics.
Simply calling out professors on their BS is what it sounds like to me.
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Why the hell would General Electric carry on a ridiculous effort to defame a man whose significant is negligent considering their current position astide the U.S. energy market?!
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Axis Kast wrote:Why the hell would General Electric carry on a ridiculous effort to defame a man whose significant is negligent considering their current position astide the U.S. energy market?!
To make the public prefer General Electric over Westinghouse!

If they somehow can make it look like General Electric was responsible for electrifying the world, such an illusion would certainly be good "advertisement". And in order to make such an illusion work, they'll have to spread ignorance about Tesla and his cooperation with Westinghouse.
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