The Trade Federation VS Milky Way Galaxy

[Techno_Union]

You are the commander of a Trade Federation fleet during the Cone Wars, your fleet consists of 100 Trade Battleships, which are fully loaded and armed for war (all have the military command towers). As you prepared to make a jump to lightspeed in preparation of an attack on a Republic outpost, a subspace rift launches you 500 million light-years and into the Delta Quadrant of the Milky Way Galaxy. Your assignment, after realizing that you cannot get home, is to create your own niche in this new galaxy and to make the greatest amount of profit while building your own empire.

Trade Federation Fleet's Assets:

Space Forces-100 Trade Federation Battleships (42 Quadlaser Cannons, 280 light defense lasers on the main sphere-per Battleship-), 150,000 Droids Starfighters (1,500 fighters a battleship, 4 blaster cannons and 2 energy torpedoes launchers-per fighter-), 5,000 C-9979 Landing Crafts (50 for every battleship, 2 wing tip lasers and 4 turret mounted cannons-per lander-)

Ground Forces-55,000 MTTs (550 MTTs for every battleship, 4 anti-personnel ball turrets-per MTT-), 625,000 AAT (6,250 for every battleship, primary turret laser cannon, twin lateral lasers, twin lateral anti-personnel lasers, 6 energy shell launchers-per AAT-), 6,160,000 troops (61,600 troops for every battleship, 1 blaster-per troop-)

As for the control signals, it is 16,500km or 10,300 miles but some of the reading materials that came out after ATC said that Command Troopers can be the control signal so that the battleships can leave or something like that. And since the battleships have on board factories, as long as they have the materials they can continue production.

So you decide how the Trade Federation will react in this new galaxy. Since they are in the DQ will they go to war with the Borg and take their empire from them? Or will they go for some peace with the Feds of that galaxy and become the new Ferengi? Will they see that all of that galaxy is barbaric and simply take over what they want in order to make the most profit, if they could make a profit?

[Lancer]

You are the commander of a Trade Federation fleet during the Cone Wars, your fleet consists of 100 Trade Battleships, which are fully loaded and armed for war (all have the military command towers). As you prepared to make a jump to lightspeed in preparation of an attack on a Republic outpost, a subspace rift launches you 500 million light-years and into the Delta Quadrant of the Milky Way Galaxy. Your assignment, after realizing that you cannot get home, is to create your own niche in this new galaxy and to make the greatest amount of profit while building your own empire.

Trade Federation Fleet's Assets:

Space Forces-100 Trade Federation Battleships (42 Quadlaser Cannons, 280 light defense lasers on the main sphere-per Battleship-), 150,000 Droids Starfighters (1,500 fighters a battleship, 4 blaster cannons and 2 energy torpedoes launchers-per fighter-), 5,000 C-9979 Landing Crafts (50 for every battleship, 2 wing tip lasers and 4 turret mounted cannons-per lander-)

Ground Forces-55,000 MTTs (550 MTTs for every battleship, 4 anti-personnel ball turrets-per MTT-), 625,000 AAT (6,250 for every battleship, primary turret laser cannon, twin lateral lasers, twin lateral anti-personnel lasers, 6 energy shell launchers-per AAT-), 6,160,000 troops (61,600 troops for every battleship, 1 blaster-per troop-)

As for the control signals, it is 16,500km or 10,300 miles but some of the reading materials that came out after ATC said that Command Troopers can be the control signal so that the battleships can leave or something like that. And since the battleships have on board factories, as long as they have the materials they can continue production.

So you decide how the Trade Federation will react in this new galaxy. Since they are in the DQ will they go to war with the Borg and take their empire from them? Or will they go for some peace with the Feds of that galaxy and become the new Ferengi? Will they see that all of that galaxy is barbaric and simply take over what they want in order to make the most profit, if they could make a profit?

this is assuming you don't run into the Krenim timeship, right? Universe-shields and a temporal weapon that simply deletes your fleet from existence can't be good news.

[Techno_Union]

Ya, assuming that they don't run into any of that stuff.

[Lancer]

Ya, assuming that they don't run into any of that stuff.

They'd probably run into another subspace rift that sends them home. After which they tell their story with a glorified version of "here thar be monsters".

[Rogue 9]

Ya, assuming that they don't run into any of that stuff.

They'd probably run into another subspace rift that sends them home. After which they tell their story with a glorified version of "here thar be monsters".

Erm... No. He said "They can't get home." And even if they did, it wouldn't be "Here there be monsters," it'd be "Here there be easy pickings."

[Aaron]

I'd find a nice world to setup shop on. Then I'd hire my forces out to the highest bidder.

[StarshipTitanic]

They could easily establish a massive empire. Once they get some minor shipyards running, they'd eventually take control of the galaxy.

[TurboPhaser]

While 100 Ships cannot defeat an entire Galaxy (Yay, Borg, 8472, Dominion, Voth......etc), I believe that the intial force would be plenty to halt anyone from bothering them while they set up an empire.
However, materials might be a problem. The necessary materials for building extra ships etc might not be available in the Trek Galaxy.
Hypermatter springs instantly to mind. Tibanna gas (Is that spelt right?) or whatever they use in those Laser type cannons might also not be around.

Assuming that they do build a nice fleet and begin their little killing spree (Kill the Talaxians first) and the other species gets wind of this and assuming that these species can communicate and travel VERY VERY FAST (You did say Galaxy right?), I'm not sure the Trade can win.
The other species may attack before they build too many ships or not.
But if you get every fleet from every useful species in the Galaxy vs however many the Trade can build from whatever they can capture, i still dont see how they can win.
The Trade would have to buckle down for a few centuries and build, build, build. Assuming the Galaxy doesnt attack them. Even with their superior weapons technology (Although I'm not entirely convinced of this) they would a ridiculously large fleet to take over the Galaxy. That is if they dont run out of resources. If they do, and they need to attack others to get some, war starts early, Galaxy come in before the Trade are ready.......

Its all a big swirly mess......... I need rest now.

[Techno_Union]

What would happen if the Trade Fed decided to "take out" the Ferengi so they could be the dominate corporate types of the galaxy, instead of just some empires? But would people like the Romulans or Klingons want to steal the TF technology? And if so, how well could the TF defend against the Romulans and Klingons and even the UFP?

[FTeik]

You are the commander of a Trade Federation fleet during the Cone Wars, your fleet consists of 100 Trade Battleships, which are fully loaded and armed for war (all have the military command towers). As you prepared to make a jump to lightspeed in preparation of an attack on a Republic outpost, a subspace rift launches you 500 million light-years and into the Delta Quadrant of the Milky Way Galaxy. Your assignment, after realizing that you cannot get home, is to create your own niche in this new galaxy and to make the greatest amount of profit while building your own empire.

Trade Federation Fleet's Assets:

Space Forces-100 Trade Federation Battleships (42 Quadlaser Cannons, 280 light defense lasers on the main sphere-per Battleship-), 150,000 Droids Starfighters (1,500 fighters a battleship, 4 blaster cannons and 2 energy torpedoes launchers-per fighter-), 5,000 C-9979 Landing Crafts (50 for every battleship, 2 wing tip lasers and 4 turret mounted cannons-per lander-)

Ground Forces-55,000 MTTs (550 MTTs for every battleship, 4 anti-personnel ball turrets-per MTT-), 625,000 AAT (6,250 for every battleship, primary turret laser cannon, twin lateral lasers, twin lateral anti-personnel lasers, 6 energy shell launchers-per AAT-), 6,160,000 troops (61,600 troops for every battleship, 1 blaster-per troop-)

As for the control signals, it is 16,500km or 10,300 miles but some of the reading materials that came out after ATC said that Command Troopers can be the control signal so that the battleships can leave or something like that. And since the battleships have on board factories, as long as they have the materials they can continue production.

So you decide how the Trade Federation will react in this new galaxy. Since they are in the DQ will they go to war with the Borg and take their empire from them? Or will they go for some peace with the Feds of that galaxy and become the new Ferengi? Will they see that all of that galaxy is barbaric and simply take over what they want in order to make the most profit, if they could make a profit?

This will only work, if the Krenim-Timeship is able to attack Neimodia, whichis 500 million lightyears away in this scenario.

this is assuming you don't run into the Krenim timeship, right? Universe-shields and a temporal weapon that simply deletes your fleet from existence can't be good news.

[Isolder74]

was there any point to that last post?

The Trade Federation has the ships and ground army to cause any one power in the Star Trek Galaxy major problems but I doubt they can take on everyon at once. It would majorly tax their resources to attack just the Borg. They might be able to take them out and there is a possibility that the Federation army will imune to Asimiliation by the vurtue of them being mechanical in nature. other than that I see tham becoming the dominate trade organization in the Trek Galaxy suplating the Feringi, Perhaps the Feringi would side with them as sort of brothers in arms.

[Techno_Union]

If the Trade decided to invade the Klingons or Romulans, lets say for more resources, would they be able to do it? Mabye not holding all Klingon/Romulan territories but mabye some valuable planets. Would the Romulans/Klingons be able to stop them? And how involved will the UFP get?

[Sarevok]

Klingons and Romulans would have some advantages due to their cloaking technology. But in a battle their ships would be outclassed by Trade Federation battleships.

[Dorsk 81]

Due to the Federations banishment of money, then that would take a good chunk out of their profit margines in the Alpha Quadrant, although, if they went to the Dominion, I'm sure they'd pay handsomely for some of the Trade Feds technology, as would alot of other of the ST galaxies groups.

Seeing how they'd be placed in the Delta Quadrant, no doubt the borg would detect them and there'd possibly be a small war with them, due to the number of TF battle ships then I'd say the borg would get their asses whipped, but it would take a bit of time.
After that, the galaxy would thank them for getting rid of the borg, after that, the galaxy is their oyster.

[Sarevok]

Due to the Federations banishment of money, then that would take a good chunk out of their profit margines in the Alpha Quadrant, although, if they went to the Dominion, I'm sure they'd pay handsomely for some of the Trade Feds technology, as would alot of other of the ST galaxies groups.

The Dominion does not use money I think.

[Dorsk 81]

Due to the Federations banishment of money, then that would take a good chunk out of their profit margines in the Alpha Quadrant, although, if they went to the Dominion, I'm sure they'd pay handsomely for some of the Trade Feds technology, as would alot of other of the ST galaxies groups.

The Dominion does not use money I think.

I don't think they do, no, but "pay handsomely" doesn't necessarily mean money and as the Dominion is more of a take-over-the-galaxy type, I think they'd be prepeared to trade more for the tech.
The Federation have their peace and freedom thing so they might be willing to trade quite a bit for superior tech so they can keep peace, depends on the mindset and if they were at war with anyone, like the dominion at the time the Trade Fed came to the ST galaxy.

[Sarevok]

Good point. The Dominion could for example sell their poloran beam technology in exchange for hyperdrive technology.

[Dorsk 81]

Good point. The Dominion could for example sell their poloran beam technology in exchange for hyperdrive technology.

Or clonning, as we know, clones are superior to droids, so the Trade Fed may want some Jem Hadar (sp?) in their armies.

[Crown]

While 100 Ships cannot defeat an entire Galaxy (Yay, Borg, 8472, Dominion, Voth......etc), I believe that the intial force would be plenty to halt anyone from bothering them while they set up an empire.

Indeed, if they are far enough away from the Borg, they can set up shop quite easily.

Remember 2 Ferengi became world leaders in one Voyager ep.

However, materials might be a problem. The necessary materials for building extra ships etc might not be available in the Trek Galaxy.
Hypermatter springs instantly to mind. Tibanna gas (Is that spelt right?) or whatever they use in those Laser type cannons might also not be around.

Tibanna gas exists in Gas Giants in the SW universe, whether this is true in the Milky Way is a question that can go unsolved. However that is neither here nor there.

With 100 ships (assuming like the Acclamators which can go 100,000 ly before refueling), they have more than enough ships to build a small Empire (by SW standards that is), spanning a few 1000 ly. By ST standards they would be considered are real power.

Also the TF would be wise to use indeginous ship design and encourage their member worlds to build fleets of their own. Not only does this quickly reduce the impact to the TF's core ships, but it dramatically increases their power base.

Assuming that they do build a nice fleet and begin their little killing spree (Kill the Talaxians first) and the other species gets wind of this and assuming that these species can communicate and travel VERY VERY FAST (You did say Galaxy right?), I'm not sure the Trade can win.

What are you talking about? The TF hasn't shown that it has genocidal tendancies (well from a SW perspective that is). They are an empire built on trade. Why would they go around wiping out entire species?

And what Trek species can communicate and travel 'VERY VERY FAST'?

The other species may attack before they build too many ships or not.
But if you get every fleet from every useful species in the Galaxy vs however many the Trade can build from whatever they can capture, i still dont see how they can win.

You're not making sense. Who don't you think could win? You used too many pronouns and not enough proper nouns. If you are saying that you don't believe that the TF can win, you are clearly delusional. Because how is 'every fleet from every useful species in the Galaxy' in the delta quadrant? Which is the only time the TF would be suseptable.

By the time they reach the Gamma, Beta and Alpha Quadrents they would have already secured their base of operations.

The Trade would have to buckle down for a few centuries and build, build, build.

Yes and no. Well certainly not 'for a few centuries', decades perhaps.

Assuming the Galaxy doesnt attack them.

3/4 of 'the Galaxy' would take anywhere between 70 - 10 years to marshal their forces to the TF in the Delta Quadrent, and that assumes that they can marshal a force large enough to trouble SW shields and weapons.

Even with their superior weapons technology (Although I'm not entirely convinced of this)

Than show us why you aren't convinced of this.

they would a ridiculously large fleet to take over the Galaxy.

Yes, but who said that fleet had to be the original 100? They would form the core certainly, but the rest can be made of natives that have been successfully cultivated.

That is if they dont run out of resources. If they do, and they need to attack others to get some, war starts early, Galaxy come in before the Trade are ready.......

WHAT 'Galaxy' are you talking about? The same 'galaxy' that requires 70 years to cross 3/4 of the Milky Way?

Its all a big swirly mess......... I need rest now.

Yes you do.

[Dorsk 81]

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Crown (despit the creppy av) makes may good points.
The TF are in Delta Quadrant, the Borg are the major power there. The TF could simply outrun them if they didn't want to fight them. After that, there are no real powers that would try and take down and empire that thrives on trade. If they decided to go to the Aphla quadrant then seeing how they want nothing but profit, then they'd simply go to the Ferengie (sp?)!
As we've seen in numerous Voyager episodes, there are a number of outposts that thrive of trade. In such places the TF could make an Empire for themselves quite soon with the tech they have to offer. That is if they stay in the Delta Quadrant.

[Sarevok]

Good point. The Dominion could for example sell their poloran beam technology in exchange for hyperdrive technology.

Or clonning, as we know, clones are superior to droids, so the Trade Fed may want some Jem Hadar (sp?) in their armies.

Jemhaders outfitted with Star Wars technology would be a formidable force.

[Techno_Union]

What other species would try and make an alliance with the Trade? Also, exactly what would the cloning tech be good for? Creating an army from the people they conquer could help but they are definatly not going to clone Nemoidians. Also, they have a vast amount of droids which, could be destroyed, but their vast number help them. If the Trade Federation could find a way to make good quality droids using ST resources, then hey could simply keep building their vast armies.

[Darth Sephiroth]

from what I understand, the Trade Federation has little desire for world domination, they're just in it for the credits, they'd most likely take over a system or two and start building a powerbase and only pick on those that tick them off. The Ferengi would be different due to competition and be blown away. But they are cowards and normally retreat. They move in and get trade treaties signed and move on.

[Mayabird]

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Note for the future: read the announcements and leave month old threads alone. Heck, over a week would almost be considered necromancy.

A mod will be here shortly to lock this thread, I suppose.

[Ghost Rider]

Okay I'm Shifting an annoucement since apprently it's never being read by some newbies.