Uranium Enrichment Materials found in Iran

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-02-19 07:05pm

This can't be good for Middle East stability.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-02-19 07:22pm

Master of Ossus wrote:This can't be good for Middle East stability.

It's like a mini cold war ... Israel vs Iran, go!

Xenophobe3691 · Post by **Xenophobe3691** » 2004-02-19 07:34pm

Crown wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:This can't be good for Middle East stability.

It's like a mini cold war ... Israel vs Iran, go!

That's way too scary to think about...

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-02-19 08:57pm

Fuck.

Fuck fuck fuckity fuck.

Fuck, fuck, fuck.

North Korea will likely collapse instead of fire(Thankfully), Iraq obviously had no such weapons, but while alot of people are very secure that Iran will reform soon, this is sounding like it will be bad before the reform is complete...

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-19 09:08pm

Actually, the reformists in Iran have recently had to deal with setbacks. Things are looking worse now than they were last summer.

Uraniun235 · Post by **Uraniun235** » 2004-02-19 10:20pm

Feh. All a nuclear-armed Iran means is that we'd have to be a lot more careful if we were to attempt any military action on them. They know if they try tossing nukes around they'll get burned twice as hard for it.

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-02-19 10:26pm

Uraniun235 wrote:Feh. All a nuclear-armed Iran means is that we'd have to be a lot more careful if we were to attempt any military action on them. They know if they try tossing nukes around they'll get burned twice as hard for it.

There probably won't be a war if they have nuclear weapons.

Gunshy · Post by **Gunshy** » 2004-02-19 11:16pm

Maybe Israel will attack them, like they did back in 1981 with Iraq and its nuclear facility. Afterall, Iran is still the only middle eastern country that refuses Israel's right to exist.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-02-20 02:36am

Gunshy wrote:Maybe Israel will attack them, like they did back in 1981 with Iraq and its nuclear facility. Afterall, Iran is still the only middle eastern country that refuses Israel's right to exist.

Iran is way outside Israel's ability to strike them ... unless they get refuelled mid flight over Iraq by America.

And what a nice hornets nest that would stir!

PrinceofLowLight · Post by **PrinceofLowLight** » 2004-02-20 02:40am

*Turns on fan*

*Places a shitpile on catapault*

*Aims it at fan*

*Waits patiently to cut cord on counterweight of catapault*

Gunshy · Post by **Gunshy** » 2004-02-20 02:48am

Crown wrote:
Gunshy wrote:
Iran is way outside Israel's ability to strike them ... unless they get refuelled mid flight over Iraq by America.

And what a nice hornets nest that would stir!

I'd forgotten about those pesky things called "geography" and "distance." Iran...Iraq...both crazy fucking countries that should end in vowels.

Sarevok · Post by **Sarevok** » 2004-02-20 03:00am

Crown wrote:
Gunshy wrote:Maybe Israel will attack them, like they did back in 1981 with Iraq and its nuclear facility. Afterall, Iran is still the only middle eastern country that refuses Israel's right to exist.
Iran is way outside Israel's ability to strike them ... unless they get refuelled mid flight over Iraq by America.

And what a nice hornets nest that would stir!

Israel could use nuclear armed ballistic missiles to strike Iran. But that is very unlikely due to the possible consequences.

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-02-20 03:12am

evilcat4000 wrote:
Crown wrote:Iran is way outside Israel's ability to strike them ... unless they get refuelled mid flight over Iraq by America.

And what a nice hornets nest that would stir!
Israel could use nuclear armed ballistic missiles to strike Iran. But that is very unlikely due to the possible consequences.

I doubt that Israel is that stupid. There best bet is to talk Turkey into striking first, or allow Israeli planes to strike from Turkish soil.

The Islamic Republic and the Turkish Republic don't have the best friendship in the region.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-20 07:21am

It's the reasonable thing to do for Iran, since it's the only way for them to protect themselves from
(a) a US invasion
(b) an Israeli strike
I don't think it's a good that Iran has nuclear weapons, but then I don't think Israel should have them either, and I think you shouldn't do an invasion without UN consent. Every state has a right to protect itself, but nuclear weapons in the hand of religious fanatics...

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-02-20 07:40am

Crown wrote:
evilcat4000 wrote:
Crown wrote:Iran is way outside Israel's ability to strike them ... unless they get refuelled mid flight over Iraq by America.

And what a nice hornets nest that would stir!
Israel could use nuclear armed ballistic missiles to strike Iran. But that is very unlikely due to the possible consequences.
I doubt that Israel is that stupid. There best bet is to talk Turkey into striking first, or allow Israeli planes to strike from Turkish soil.

The Islamic Republic and the Turkish Republic don't have the best friendship in the region.

But Turkey wants to get in the EU, and Germany has quite good standings with Iran (as a safe bet I'd say a good portion of Iranian technology is via some way or the other German....).
So I doubt Turkey will do anything stupid

CJvR · Post by **CJvR** » 2004-02-20 07:51am

Crown wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:This can't be good for Middle East stability.

It's like a mini cold war ... Israel vs Iran, go! :)

Threatening a religous fanatic with MAD isn't always enough deterrent...

Crown · Post by **Crown** » 2004-02-20 07:56am

CJvR wrote:
Crown wrote:
Master of Ossus wrote:This can't be good for Middle East stability.

It's like a mini cold war ... Israel vs Iran, go!
Threatening a religous fanatic with MAD isn't always enough deterrent...

Are we talking about Iran or Israel?

(sorry couldn't resist)

Ace Pace · Post by **Ace Pace** » 2004-02-20 02:30pm

Crown, despite what it looks from the outside, there is NOTHING in commen in Iran and Israel....

Anyway, possible nukes a spitting distance away from me, with me being inside a likly target.. This sounds like a POS situation to me.

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-02-20 03:11pm

Dahak wrote:But Turkey wants to get in the EU, and Germany has quite good standings with Iran (as a safe bet I'd say a good portion of Iranian technology is via some way or the other German....).
So I doubt Turkey will do anything stupid

if proof were leaked that Germany helped Iran develop nuclear weapons not only would every shread of German diplomatic credibility be destroyed for decades, i'd imagine the German public would demand Schroder's head on a pike.... and they'd get it.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-02-20 03:21pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Dahak wrote:But Turkey wants to get in the EU, and Germany has quite good standings with Iran (as a safe bet I'd say a good portion of Iranian technology is via some way or the other German....).
So I doubt Turkey will do anything stupid
if proof were leaked that Germany helped Iran develop nuclear weapons not only would every shread of German diplomatic credibility be destroyed for decades, i'd imagine the German public would demand Schroder's head on a pike.... and they'd get it.

You underestimate us

As a matter of fact, several Pakistani, who later on became involved in high positions of the Pakistani nuclear program, went through education about nuclear technology in Germany.
A report suggests that might have been poltical reason in order to reduce the status of France and the UK, being nuclear powers and all.

German companies helped Saddam build up his bunkers and weapons industry. As long as there's money to be made with, some german company *will* sell it, regardless any embargoes or the like...

Col. Crackpot · Post by **Col. Crackpot** » 2004-02-20 03:24pm

Dahak wrote:
if proof were leaked that Germany helped Iran develop nuclear weapons not only would every shread of German diplomatic credibility be destroyed for decades, i'd imagine the German public would demand Schroder's head on a pike.... and they'd get it.

You underestimate us

As a matter of fact, several Pakistani, who later on became involved in high positions of the Pakistani nuclear program, went through education about nuclear technology in Germany.
A report suggests that might have been poltical reason in order to reduce the status of France and the UK, being nuclear powers and all.

German companies helped Saddam build up his bunkers and weapons industry. As long as there's money to be made with, some german company *will* sell it, regardless any embargoes or the like...[/quote]

You find it the least bit hypocritical? Selling materials that is. Studying nuclear physics in and of itself ins't a crime.

Dahak · Post by **Dahak** » 2004-02-20 03:40pm

Col. Crackpot wrote:
Dahak wrote:
if proof were leaked that Germany helped Iran develop nuclear weapons not only would every shread of German diplomatic credibility be destroyed for decades, i'd imagine the German public would demand Schroder's head on a pike.... and they'd get it.
You underestimate us

As a matter of fact, several Pakistani, who later on became involved in high positions of the Pakistani nuclear program, went through education about nuclear technology in Germany.
A report suggests that might have been poltical reason in order to reduce the status of France and the UK, being nuclear powers and all.

German companies helped Saddam build up his bunkers and weapons industry. As long as there's money to be made with, some german company *will* sell it, regardless any embargoes or the like...
You find it the least bit hypocritical? Selling materials that is. Studying nuclear physics in and of itself ins't a crime.

Not nuclear physics. They were educated on the then-top-of-the-line equipment for reprocessing and other high-end equipment. With government financial aid.
Knowledge that inadvertedly led to the Bomb.

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