Stewie commentary

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-20 03:48pm

Wait for Mike to take him apart in round IV.
If Steward lasts long enough for Round V, then Mike can give him in his final reply a stronger Imperial Smackdown than the last time. Hopefully this will turn him away then.

Cromag · Post by **Cromag** » 2004-02-20 03:57pm

nightmare wrote:
Stewart from SDI wrote:I propose to use and ordinary auto exposure 110 camera, photographing an ordinary rubber ball, in ordinary sun light, to duplicate the effects seen.
Thanks, Stewart. I had such a bad mood today and then you cheer me up with such hilarious stuff.

I gotta wonder about where he's going to get a scaled-down turbolaser to duplicate his Albedo Effect.

Stewart at SDI · Post by **Stewart at SDI** » 2004-02-20 04:03pm

Phantom5 wrote:I hate to defend an idiot, but his target shooting claims are not beyond belief (I don't personally believe them, but they're not impossible).

His claim:
"I will bet $100 US, that I can get more hits than misses on a standard sillowet or B-5 target, at 100m, in front of witnesses, with either my .22 or .45 pistol."

Truth, that's not impossible...for a good marksman. He just said "more hits than misses", which means a bullet anywhere on the silhouette is a hit...and a standard silhouette is fairly big. He'd just have to keep his shots within about 12-18" horizontally and as much as 2-3 feet vertically. He'd be holding waaay high, but he could use his pistol like a mortar and do it, if he's good. Take a couple misses to get the range and elevation, then lob 'em in. He has a large margin for error.
He said more hits than misses out of a magazine, so that's 4 out of 7 hits he needs. A good enough shot could do it.

True, maximum effective range is only 30-60 yards. But cartridges CAN be fired beyond their effective range by a skilled marksman...Skeeter Skelton hit targets at ranges as far 600 yards with his .44 magnum. All the maximum effective range indicates is the maximum range at which the round is likely to be accurate when used by an ordinary shooter. A .45 ACP round is not TOTALLY inaccurate at 100 yards...it's just harder to aim than normal.

All that said, I don't believe for a minute that he can do it...he'd have to be one of the finest pistol shots in the country. Further, his claim here comes nowhere NEAR the difficulty of some other claims...I believe one email claimed a "head shot at 109 meters"? Now THAT is impossible.

P5

Thanks for standing up for the troll, meening me. I am that good. I use one of three Para Ordinance .45's. A P-12 pocket pistol, with an 11 round magazine that I have won similar bets on, A stock P-14 Limeted with 13 and 15 round magazines or a custom Para P-14 by Steve Barlow's custom guns in Salt Lake City. It has a 6" slide with a 6.5" barrel that has a 2.5" multi baffle muzzle break screwed to the last half inch, micromiter click sight and a 2.5 pound trigger. If I do my job right, it shoots 1.25 to 1.625" groupes at 50 yards. If you know what a "Race" gun cost's, then you might suspect what it's owner can do with one. As to the effective range if the gun is zerroed at 100m, it will certainly print right on at that range. With the +P ammo that I use I only need 30" or so of hold over to shoot 200 yards. The custom gun is used with +P+ ".45 super" ammo at 1450F/S. I have never tried to shoot it 200 yards but think it will require less hold over.

I have several High Standard .22 pistols. Any one would cost more than a typical .45 that the other posters cite. It will shoot groupes less than 1" at 50 yards with the $7 a box match ammo but the cheepest shit I can find at K-Mart will shoot 2.5" or less at that range. 100m is nothing for that gun. A 200m shot needs about 45-50" of hold over and I typicaly get 6-8 hits on the gong at that range from a load of 11 rounds. (10 in the mag and one up the spout.) It is not as hard as it sounds and I can teach almost any "normal" person to do it at 100m.

As to iron sights not being accurate, all I can say about that is Camp Perry and the Leach cup. (47th when I was a kid.) I was hoping to make a few bucks off of the other posters on this site as I once did it with my friend George's 2" barreled Raven. But the people here will attack you without any knowledge at all on the subject. It just goes to proove my point, what has the qualifications to do with the argument?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-02-20 04:24pm

Hey Stewie, did you say you got a purple heart in the argument thread?

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2004-02-20 04:40pm

Stewart, when will you stop dodging and answer CmdrWilkens' challenge? He has posted his challenge numerous times now, its a perfect opportunity for you to show that you have no fuckin..... i mean that you arent bullshitting. Stop fucking dodging and answer chicken shit.

I find it funny how you claim that people attack you without any knowledge on the subject. It seems that the only one who doesnt have a fucking clue is you, not us. Personally i have consulted both the Master of the Field of my army time posting camp and several of my friends from army times. That combined yet with personal experience AND specifications from reliable sources, tells me you are plain out spitting bullshit.

Also yet regarding this fantasy "Strategic Defense Institute" of yours. Its nice how you try to dodge the entire goddamn point with the picture. Which is basically that the address you gave for your "company" is a sub-urban house. And that this company of yours doesnt exist in the form of web presence or practically any form in which every real company exists.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-20 04:42pm

Can we all point and laugh now?

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-20 05:00pm

Mike should make him the newest Village Idiot.

FOG3 · Post by **FOG3** » 2004-02-20 05:03pm

Let's see he claims to be an insanely good shot, and to have 'passed' college with relative ease in a shorter period of time then had ever been done before, but he still has a lot of glaring spelling errors. Such as "deffeeted." My the super prodigy effect must have worn off or he's full of it. Personally I'm leaning towards he's full of it.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-20 05:05pm

Tribun wrote:Mike should make him the newest Village Idiot.

Yeah, we said that. This would beat RevPrez's record. So, where's the poll? Wanna bet it'd be however many people vote to one?

Straha · Post by **Straha** » 2004-02-20 05:07pm

Tribun wrote:Mike should make him the newest Village Idiot.

No, we need a title far more damaging and ironic. Might I suggest

"Dyslexic Gillave Diot"

(So? My Humour sucks, do I care?)

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-20 05:29pm

Hey, I found a picture of Stewart!

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-02-20 05:42pm

Tribun wrote:Mike should make him the newest Village Idiot.

Mike usually doesn't title people while they're engaged in a debate with him. After the debate is over, you may petition the mods to open a thread, open the thread in the HoS, and then take a poll of users to name him a VI.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-02-20 05:43pm

Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:Also yet regarding this fantasy "Strategic Defense Institute" of yours. Its nice how you try to dodge the entire goddamn point with the picture. Which is basically that the address you gave for your "company" is a sub-urban house. And that this company of yours doesnt exist in the form of web presence or practically any form in which every real company exists.

Obviously, it's the most advanced form of company in existence: the Stealth Company. So stealthy that you can't find it in the phone book, the Yellow Pages, or the Web

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-02-20 05:52pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:Also yet regarding this fantasy "Strategic Defense Institute" of yours. Its nice how you try to dodge the entire goddamn point with the picture. Which is basically that the address you gave for your "company" is a sub-urban house. And that this company of yours doesnt exist in the form of web presence or practically any form in which every real company exists.
Obviously, it's the most advanced form of company in existence: the Stealth Company. So stealthy that you can't find it in the phone book, the Yellow Pages, or the Web

And so secret that they can't even give you an example of their field of work unless you submit a written proposal to them and agree to pay for their time (ie. no free consulting).

J · Post by J » 2004-02-20 05:57pm

Rogue 9 wrote:Hey, I found a picture of Stewart!

Sorry for poaching the picture off you...As my sis' BF says:

The Kernel · Post by **The Kernel** » 2004-02-20 05:59pm

Oh Stewart, just for kicks, I checked out your "Strategic Defense Insitute" with both the Better Business Buerau and the state of Illinois (which has records of all L.L.C.'s, S-CORPS and C-CORPS. Surprise, surprise, neither of them have heard of your little establishment.

Aparently, you are either a liar or engaged in tax evasion.

Gunshy · Post by **Gunshy** » 2004-02-20 06:08pm

Straha: Yes, he did say he had a purple heart.

I needed the promotion points to go with my third child, as I had already maxed out on all other factors in a time of reduction in force that was in effect then. The only avenue open to me was "Civilian Education", where I could add up to 125 points out of 1000 possable. My only other aria that was not maxed out was "Awards and Decorations" only 50 possable, and I had some of those already. (VNS, Purple Heart, Good Conduct(3) and Presidential Unit Citation, asbout 24-25 total IIRC) My high school diploma was worth practicly nothing on the CE scale but a "colledge degree" was worth 75 points, more than enough to boost me over the promotion threshold at that time.

And you know...I hope to God he's not lying about that. A Purple Heart means you've shed blood on the battlefield. My grandfather got his purple hearts during WWII, care of the Germans. I don't have to tell any of the active duty, and retired military on the board what kind of insult it is if he is lying.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-20 06:14pm

You don't even have to tell those of us who aren't military. I would never dream of claiming that decoration falsely.

Tribun · Post by **Tribun** » 2004-02-20 06:18pm

For Steward, we need something new.

In round V, Mike should now use the "Ultimate Imperial Smackdown" to finish the debate, thus showing us in color what an idiot and moron Steward is.

Dark Hellion · Post by **Dark Hellion** » 2004-02-20 06:18pm

So, who wants to call the IRS.

Oh, and Stewart, as you obviously didn't realize that I was giving you good advice, here we go.

You see Stewart, I have this little problem. I have plenty of money to pay with (10,000 -20,000 in a trust) and so could easily afford your service. Now, you see, the problem is, whenever I sit in front of my computer, I get this horrible pain in my ass. Now, I want this pain eliminated at all costs. I will allow you the use of any means you want, including your vaunted sharpshooting ability to remove this pain. You see, this idiot, he keeps posting worthless bullshit on the internet. I want him eliminated, quickly. He is completely incompetent on almost all of physics and yet is constantly thinks that he is outthinking my comrades and I. Now this is totally unexceptable. Now, this pain in the ass, he goes only by an internet handle, but with the immense resources of your company you should have not problem tracking him down. I can even provide an address 4801 Barreville Rd. Crystal Lake, Il. 60012. He goes by the handle Stewart at SDI, and he is retarded. Please eliminate him.

Rightous Fist Of Heaven · Post by **Rightous Fist Of Heaven** » 2004-02-20 06:21pm

Darth Wong wrote:
Rightous Fist Of Heaven wrote:Also yet regarding this fantasy "Strategic Defense Institute" of yours. Its nice how you try to dodge the entire goddamn point with the picture. Which is basically that the address you gave for your "company" is a sub-urban house. And that this company of yours doesnt exist in the form of web presence or practically any form in which every real company exists.
Obviously, it's the most advanced form of company in existence: the Stealth Company. So stealthy that you can't find it in the phone book, the Yellow Pages, or the Web

Ofcourse! Why didnt i see that. What a fool i am. Ofcourse, that leaves the problem of how clients are going to find this SDI...hmm...telepathy perhaps? Or perhaps they just spread fliers all over the place.

"Strategic Defense Institute! Solutions to your problems! Having trouble with the neighbors cat shitting to your lawn? We'll take care of that for a reasonable price! No problem is too big for us. Just give us your money and we'll solve your problem.
One time offer only, two problems at the price of one for mondays and fridays.
Dont miss your chance to have your problems fixed!"

Perhaps Stewart & Co are afraid of industrial espionage or foreign spies so they need a Stealth Company

Phantom5 · Post by **Phantom5** » 2004-02-20 06:26pm

Entirely peripheral to the main argument, but what the hey...

The claim was 100 meters, not 100 yards. And the maximum effective range of a 45ACP falls far short of 100 meters, very far short.

What's your point? 100 meters is roughly 110 yards...big diff. And did you read my post? The maximum effective range is NOT the maximum range at which any marksman can hit any target. It is the maximum range at which the average marksman can hit the average target. A weapon CAN fire accurately at ranges beyond the maximum effective range...that stat is used to determine the usefulness of a weapon in war/conflict, NOT the maximum range it can be used to hit targets.

To Stew:

Stewart from SDI wrote:If I do my job right, it shoots 1.25 to 1.625" groupes at 50 yards.

That's world-class competitor range. Why aren't you on the pro-pistol circuit, famous as hell? Oh...probably because you're making this up.

With the +P ammo that I use I only need 30" or so of hold over to shoot 200 yards.

The best 200 yard figures I've seen were 49" of hold over at that range.

The custom gun is used with +P+ ".45 super" ammo at 1450F/S. I have never tried to shoot it 200 yards but think it will require less hold over.

Should have clarified that...the .45 Super is NOT a .45 ACP. The two cartridges are apples and oranges. That's more a magnum class pistol, so duping Skeeter's feats is more reasonable.

But again...just because it's possible doesn't mean YOU can do it. And frankly, you've made so many bullshit claims I'm hard-pressed to buy this one.

Shooting like this can be done, with expirimentation, firing slow controlled shots, where you have the luxury of a lot of margin for error. VERY different from shooting quickly, at a small target, under combat conditions...what about that 100 yard headshot you claimed? Ed Fucking McGivern couldn't make that shot...no way in hell you can.

P5

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aerius · Post by **aerius** » 2004-02-20 06:26pm

Hey Stewie, you wouldn't happen to have a few Ernie Emerson CQC-6's and a Panerai watch lying around would you? And an Innova X-5 and Surefire E2e to go along with all those fancy guns?

Post by **Ghost Rider** » 2004-02-20 06:39pm

Why call the IRS...children at a certain age cannot file unless he's earned a certain amount in dividends...and they can still be handled by the parent.

So Stewie here is either some low end wage slave working at McD's longing for the day he becomes fry cook or a Gerbil molester because it's the only form of compaionship he can get since he's gotten blisters on his hand from not enough KY jelly.

Ryoga · Post by **Ryoga** » 2004-02-20 06:43pm

Have I mentioned recently that I love this board?

Seriously, I go away for a little while and *BAM!* The most entertaining troll shows up. It's like reality TV, except less grating.

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