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Darth Wong wrote:It depends on which minority you're talking about. The group most often penalized by college ethnic quotas is actually Asians. One of the California universities reported a sharp spike in the increase of Asian students when they dropped their affirmative action programs. As a rather amusing side-note, this spike came largely at the expense of white students whose parents lobbied furiously for the change :lol:
Point taken. I guess I was envisioning the hispanic and african-american minorities. They seem to face more economic difficulties than the average asian minority, I would guess. I guess what I'm primarily getting at is that in most cases, the minorities are faced with more economic disadvantages that make college an unrealistic option for the alot of people. It's important that they have the same opportunity as a white kid or an asian kid, and far too often they don't get that opportunity. That is something that needs to be corrected.
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Then award scholarships on the basis of economic need, not race.
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Black and hispanic students face two major hurdles getting into college that whites typically don't (I can't comment on Asians because I don't know much about their demographics). First, they're more likely to be poor, and second, because they're more likely to be poor, they're more likely to live in a shitty neighborhood with a shitty school. When California's minority enrollment rates plunged after affirmative action was outlawed, it should have had people screaming about the pisspoor condition of the public schools in poor neighborhoods. Instead, they wail about affirmative action being taken away, because apparently it's better to slap a bandaid on a deep and serious social problem than to address the causes.
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RedImperator wrote:... apparently it's better to slap a bandaid on a deep and serious social problem than to address the causes.
Actually, if the problem is severe it's better to do both at once. Underlying causes must be dealt with, but remedies from such actions are long in coming, and in the meantime, one must look at the present situation.

I see much the same argument coming from some of the idiots here in the city with regard to the youth gang problem. They argue that police enforcement is just a band-aid solution and that the underlying problem is social and educational. That's wonderful, but all the social and educational programs in the world won't do jack shit for the gangs that are operating right now. We need cops. Call it a Band-Aid, but when you have a deep wound, you wrap something around it until you can get to the hospital.
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