alliances 2

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-14 03:02pm

) What are the alliances that form between powers?

2) What alliance wins?

Each power is in there own separate galaxy(s)and forst meetings happen by various means. Ex. Wormholes, slipstream drive, and etc.

B5: After formation of Instellar Alliance.
Star Wars: Empire at its peak.
Federation: Ditto
Commonwealth: Pre-Thud
warhammar 40K: modern era, end of gothic war.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-14 03:13pm

Rampage as the Necrons find the Fed, B5 and CW Unvierses

Damn with 40k in there your just asking for insane hijinks

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-10-14 03:17pm

The WH40k Empire and the SW Empire could possibly make a good and powerful alliance if their interests in extra-galactic issues don't conflict.
Federation would probably side with Commonwealth, B5 interstellar alliance could go with all of them I guess.

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-14 03:29pm

Lol I forgot about that

The Emperor and the Emperor of man could have been old Collage Roomies by all indications

I see these two Empires REALY hitting it off

I see Space Marines and Stormys out on the Range, The Stormys wanting that Armor, The Marines wanting those guns

I can see the Emperor of man and Papy both telekenictly playing Golf, talking about how the Kids are doing and ordering the destruction of the Commonweath

Seriously with the Imperium backing up the Empire... Who could they NOT take on?

Cpt_Frank · Post by **Cpt_Frank** » 2002-10-14 03:38pm

Just what I thought

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-14 05:14pm

what about the Chaos hordes finding this rich new place to attack

A Big Flying Fish · Post by **A Big Flying Fish** » 2002-10-14 05:46pm

hmm, a meeting of 40K IOM with any of the others.
Inquisitor: "Worship the God Emperor of Mankind and be saved"
Everyone else: "The who?"
Inquisitor to Space marines, titan legions, imperial guard etc.: "Imperial Inquisition! Burn the Heathan Scum!"
general background noises of screams, bolter fire and general blood splatter.
and thats if the inquisition is feeling nice, which down't happen too often

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-14 05:59pm

"Worship the God Emperor of Mankind and be saved"

Stormys:Hail the Emperor!(Let them find out later they ment THIER Emperor

I'm not kidding I so easily see the Emperor of Man-Kind and The Emperor hitting it off

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-14 06:19pm

On the face of it they have much in common, and indeed I can see many people's view that they would get on. However one must bear in mind that first and foremost the inquistion would insist on having the oppertunity to examine both Vader and the Emporer, and any other Dark Force users in their employ. They would be looking for signs of possesion and loss of control, that the 'Force' had brought about a change in a persons personality making them, for example more violent.

Vader.... Lets see, goes from admittadly arrogant but still essentially Good Kid too (I.E Anakin) to Vader all because he fell victum to the influance of the dark Side of the Force. Does this hint at Demonic possesion as a part of the Dark Side of the force?

Already then we start to see fractures appear in the alliance and they continue to spread, can you see the Imperium accepting anyone being an independent head of a galaxy wide Empire calling himself Emporer?

No My friends the alliance is not so easy to imagine it has holes and gaps, Gaps that can be exploited and made to grow, and their exist within the 40K universe just the species to see this, just the species to maybe see the flaws and exploit them, when they need to, this alliance is weaker than it at first appears. I forsee a shaky alliance starting well, but slowly the stresses become more apparent and when/if the Eldar are in need... it breaks apart.

Why might the Eldar interfere, many times many reasons, if they could break the alliance apart, and aid the Rebellion the Rebellion will owe them a Debt, and the Farseer's of the Eldar like to have people owing them debts... at least one Navigator family within the Imperium owes the Eldar a Debt, and the Eldar have used this Debt 6 times to prevent catastrophe... they have one more call up. maybe it's time to gather new debts...

Post by **Kuja** » 2002-10-14 06:22pm

Long live the Emperor...er, both of them!

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-14 06:25pm

Already then we start to see fractures appear in the alliance and they continue to spread, can you see the Imperium accepting anyone being an independent head of a galaxy wide Empire calling himself Emporer?

No the Emperor is smarter than that(The Emperor not the God Emperor), This is the same guy who manvoired the entire Jedi order plus the couple of thousands of Senators into doing EXACTLY what he wanted.

Papletine would happly trade Vadar as a sacfice to optain the services of the Imperium

Think about it this way Skelron, The Empire has massive amounts of ships, a stable galalxy free of the plauges of the Warp, untold richs and a manfuacturing Capacity that is rivaled only by CW and they have SIX Galaxys and still are not that far ahead of the Empire

Furthermore the Imperium has tons of useful and intresting technologys plus a Ruler who knows how useful the Empire would be just as the Empire knows how useful the Imperium is.

The Eldar could try all they want but if Papy is behind this, if he WANTS it the Allance to Succded it can and will

He's played second class fiddle before don't forget that...

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-14 06:26pm

Now then I want to know what the other parts of this discussion would view of the Eldar, can you imagine for example Sheridan's reaction first time he see's an Eldar show up...

'Damn it I thought the First Ones had all left!'

Or The Federation Captain trying to explain to the Eldar Farseer why the Human/Federation way is better...(They always do after all) 'Mon-Keigh, I have felt and thought more in a day than you will in your life time, my mind as a Child Grasped concepts your cleverest Scientists would fail to comprehend, do not tell me of your ways supperiority, for you are as Children, grasping at a universe you cannot hope to understand...'

Come on People theres more to 40K than the Imperium of man, no matter how much fun being able to say 'Exterminus' is...

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-14 06:36pm

Mr Bean wrote:
Already then we start to see fractures appear in the alliance and they continue to spread, can you see the Imperium accepting anyone being an independent head of a galaxy wide Empire calling himself Emporer?
No the Emperor is smarter than that(The Emperor not the God Emperor), This is the same guy who manvoired the entire Jedi order plus the couple of thousands of Senators into doing EXACTLY what he wanted.

Papletine would happly trade Vadar as a sacfice to optain the services of the Imperium

Oh I freely admit he would, no doubt about it... but that wasn't the point I was making well not directly. (I'll admit rereading my post it did come out as you interpreted it sorry)I ment to say that exposure to the Dark Side of the Force corrupted and Altered Vader. The Inquistion would have no problems with WHO Vader is... but would be worried at the change that becoming a Sith made in Vader. Or Rather what these Changes hinted at as too the Nature of the Dark Side of the Force, it isn't Vader himself but the change in a person that becoming a dark Sider causes.

Think about it this way Skelron, The Empire has massive amounts of ships, a stable galalxy free of the plauges of the Warp, untold richs and a manfuacturing Capacity that is rivaled only by CW and they have SIX Galaxys and still are not that far ahead of the Empire

Furthermore the Imperium has tons of useful and intresting technologys plus a Ruler who knows how useful the Empire would be just as the Empire knows how useful the Imperium is.

The Eldar could try all they want but if Papy is behind this, if he WANTS it the Allance to Succded it can and will

He's played second class fiddle before don't forget that...

Nobody out manouver's the Eldar. That Debt I talked about was started before the Founding of the Imperium. The Eldar saw they would need the services of the Navigator family seven times, in the future and so acted, at the time of the setting of most of the 40K fluff... (And taking in account the events of Farseer the book where the Debt was brought up) They had traded in 6 of them, thats several thousand years of planning...

The Emporer may want to keept the alliance up... but he's not playing with the Rebublic anymore, the Rebublic was corrupt, the defender's of it... had become arrogant and complacent. The Imperiam is suspicious of everyone and everything, it'll take all of Palpy's skill to keep them in check normally... especially in light of the suspicions they will have about the Dark Side, when/if a race of people who are called Subtle by the Inquistion, who even Deamon Princes respect for their cunning and subtlety in manipulating events enter's the picture... can Even Palpy keep up?

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-14 07:15pm

what about the roving Tyranid hordes and the Chaos forces

Skelron · Post by **Skelron** » 2002-10-14 07:24pm

Ohh Roving Chaos and Nid's they are a major randomn element, they may well force cooperation between the Feds, B5 and the Commonwealth. (Well more so than they would originally have anyway) but of B5 and the feds I doubt they have the power or the will to resist. Unsure on the Commonwealth, they might have the power, but do they have the will do too what is necersary?

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-14 07:31pm

Mr Bean wrote:Think about it this way Skelron, The Empire has massive amounts of ships, a stable galalxy free of the plauges of the Warp, untold richs and a manfuacturing Capacity that is rivaled only by CW and they have SIX Galaxys and still are not that far ahead of the Empire

What? you mean the CW has anything near the industrial raw power of the empire? Where?

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-14 08:04pm

What? you mean the CW has anything near the industrial raw power of the empire? Where?

Its Pred-Thud so its possible, if we add in the Magag too I guess

His Divine Shadow · Post by **His Divine Shadow** » 2002-10-14 08:12pm

Mr Bean wrote:
What? you mean the CW has anything near the industrial raw power of the empire? Where?
Its Pred-Thud so its possible, if we add in the Magag too I guess

*shrug* I dunno, I mean the imperial fleet at ANH equalled half the destrucive power of the DS's main gun and before TESB they had nearly doubled in strenght, thats not something to take lightly.
And easily building the deathstars in secret and so on too.

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-15 09:51pm

Ohh Roving Chaos and Nid's they are a major randomn element, they may well force cooperation between the Feds, B5 and the Commonwealth. (Well more so than they would originally have anyway) but of B5 and the feds I doubt they have the power or the will to resist. Unsure on the Commonwealth, they might have the power, but do they have the will do too what is necersary?

Warhammar 40k has many races I still have not mentioned, those crazy orks and their waaagh rampages for one, NTM the dark eldar who would torture the hell out of anyone who opposes them

Post by **Mr Bean** » 2002-10-15 10:31pm

Warhammar 40k has many races I still have not mentioned, those crazy orks and their waaagh rampages for one, NTM the dark eldar who would torture the hell out of anyone who opposes them

One of the reasons this one is so intresting is because there are so many strong races out there in 40k who nomraly are to busy beating on each other to notice anything else

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-15 11:44pm

One of the reasons this one is so intresting is because there are so many strong races out there in 40k who nomraly are to busy beating on each other to notice anything else

like the fact the imperium and Chaos hate each other's guts but are entrenched in conflict, this addition of new battlegrounds would give them other places to wreck

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-16 12:16am

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let them face one these or

starfury · Post by **starfury** » 2002-10-16 12:17am

my stupid images link kept breaking down.

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-10-16 02:48am

starfury wrote:my stupid images link kept breaking down.

Youe second link doesnt work because your not going it correctly. The first tag should be

Your just repeating

Post by **Sea Skimmer** » 2002-10-16 02:50am

Sea Skimmer wrote:
starfury wrote:my stupid images link kept breaking down.
Youe second link doesnt work because your not going it correctly. The first tag should be Your just repeating

Well playing around with your ULR doesnt seem to help, there was a * on the end of it. Now that I think about it though, I dont think anglefire allows for remote linking.

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