San Francisco Sues State Over Same-Sex Weddings

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-02-22 02:39pm

I also aplogize if I have offended anyone.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-22 02:42pm

Agent Fisher wrote:If the gays do win, which I hope they do. Could they please, and I say this with humility, stop the gay pride parades with half naked men prounceing around. And they can't have the "gay sheild" where someone can't fire them from a job, regardless of the reason of the firing, because their gay.

I can understand both your points.. As far as the "gay shield," I've never heard of that, but there should be (at least IMO) anti-discrimination laws... This works, of course, for both hetero- and homosexual people.

~ver

Agent Fisher · Post by **Agent Fisher** » 2004-02-22 02:49pm

I have heard of the gay sheild as Homosexuals who have less expeirnce to do a job than say a straight person. The employer tries to hire the more qualified person but can't because the Homosexual while say he was discriminated against.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-22 02:54pm

Fisher: While I agree that it's absurd to have gay parades the way they are now (people acting in ways they'd /never/ act in real life), just look at Carnival or Mardi Gras. It's not just gay parades where everyone acts like a fucking fruit. Cirque du Soleil anyone? When they start claiming to be the representatives of homonissity world wide, I'm a bit miffed, cause I am far from flaming, but if they want to do that for fun, whatever.

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-22 02:55pm

Oh, just to add: At my school we have a cross dress day where guys come in dressed like girls and vice versa. STRAIGHT guys are the ones who usually do it and it looks absurd. But no worse than any parades.

GySgt. Hartman · Post by **GySgt. Hartman** » 2004-02-22 06:44pm

What kind of school do you go to? Is there any deeper meaning to these days? Any reason? Like weeding out the kids who look like they might do this on a regular basis?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-22 07:06pm

GySgt. Hartman wrote:What kind of school do you go to? Is there any deeper meaning to these days? Any reason? Like weeding out the kids who look like they might do this on a regular basis?

It's just a normal high school, I'd presume. Both of mine did it, too. It's fucking stupid, too. Generally the ones who DO do it are the idiot football/basketball players (and in some case, soccer players). There's no reason to do it, other than some sort of participation in "Spirit Week," or what have you.

~ver

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-22 07:40pm

God, I remember that. I refused. And laughed at the class idiots. (The same ones who did this wore pastel colored tuxedos to prom.

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kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-22 08:11pm

verilon is correct, the kids who did it were the dumb idiots who think theyre the shit. they also, ironically, seem to be the ones most interested in going into the marines..

Knife · Post by **Knife** » 2004-02-22 09:02pm

kojikun wrote:verilon is correct, the kids who did it were the dumb idiots who think theyre the shit. they also, ironically, seem to be the ones most interested in going into the marines..

I don't think so.....

Post by **RogueIce** » 2004-02-22 10:05pm

kojikun wrote:verilon is correct, the kids who did it were the dumb idiots who think theyre the shit. they also, ironically, seem to be the ones most interested in going into the marines..

And were either never accepted or failed out of PI?

Just because they're interested in going into the Marines doesn't mean they made it. Or that they're even good (or even adequete) Marines. But, like everything else in life, I'm sure a few have slipped through the cracks...

kojikun · Post by **kojikun** » 2004-02-22 10:34pm

I don't know, they're still in highschool.

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-02-22 11:51pm

Agent Fisher wrote:If the gays do win, which I hope they do. Could they please, and I say this with humility, stop the gay pride parades with half naked men prounceing around. And they can't have the "gay sheild" where someone can't fire them from a job, regardless of the reason of the firing, because their gay.

We can definently do without the men riding giant phalic objects....

As far as the "gay shield" goes... Anyone that uses it is an asshole. Anti-discriination laws exist so a person has to hire on the basis of qualification.

Post by **Darth Wong** » 2004-02-22 11:55pm

I've never heard of this "gay shield". How do you know it actually exists, rather than simply being the dirty little office-politics rumbling that goes on when a gay guy gets hired and some people try to spread shit about him not being qualified for the job?

Post by **Alyrium Denryle** » 2004-02-23 12:27am

Darth Wong wrote:I've never heard of this "gay shield". How do you know it actually exists, rather than simply being the dirty little office-politics rumbling that goes on when a gay guy gets hired and some people try to spread shit about him not being qualified for the job?

That is what it is most of the time... Homophobic WASPS with persecution complexes. it DOES(undoubtedly) happen though, there are people oof all kinds who lack scruples.

The Duchess of Zeon · Post by **The Duchess of Zeon** » 2004-02-23 12:41am

Darth Wong wrote:Interesting how most of the progressive states are on the outside, eh? The inland portion of the nation looks very blue.

I think Wyoming hasn't banned gay marriage because after the Matthew Sheppard incident it became an "untouchable" political topic, if you will. Wisconsin has historical progressive leanings and has been the foundation state of several populist movements. Traditionally coastal (merchantile) areas are more open-minded in general than agrarian regions.

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-23 12:45am

The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Interesting how most of the progressive states are on the outside, eh? The inland portion of the nation looks very blue.
I think Wyoming hasn't banned gay marriage because after the Matthew Sheppard incident it became an "untouchable" political topic, if you will. Wisconsin has historical progressive leanings and has been the foundation state of several populist movements. Traditionally coastal (merchantile) areas are more open-minded in general than agrarian regions.

I'd like to try to explain away New Mexico. It makes NO SENSE. Yes, it was the home of a silver rush way back when, and yes it's an intrnational hot spot for vacation.. but that's about it..

~ver

SirNitram · Post by **SirNitram** » 2004-02-23 02:23am

verilon wrote:
The Duchess of Zeon wrote:
Darth Wong wrote:Interesting how most of the progressive states are on the outside, eh? The inland portion of the nation looks very blue.
I think Wyoming hasn't banned gay marriage because after the Matthew Sheppard incident it became an "untouchable" political topic, if you will. Wisconsin has historical progressive leanings and has been the foundation state of several populist movements. Traditionally coastal (merchantile) areas are more open-minded in general than agrarian regions.
I'd like to try to explain away New Mexico. It makes NO SENSE. Yes, it was the home of a silver rush way back when, and yes it's an intrnational hot spot for vacation.. but that's about it..

~ver

Perhaps, the utter lack of major things has allowed politicians with a spine and a code of ethics to spawn and mate there?

I mean, aliens landed there, anything can happen, right?

Post by **haas mark** » 2004-02-23 02:27am

SirNitram wrote:Perhaps, the utter lack of major things has allowed politicians with a spine and a code of ethics to spawn and mate there?

I mean, aliens landed there, anything can happen, right?

Well, consider the other controversies that have been covered in New Mexico.. the North Korean leader last year, the deal with Wen Ho Lee a few years back.. there's a lot of political influence in New Mexico, so it doesn't make any sense, especially considering the demographic (no race being majority [the only state like that] and a large portion of the religious people being Roman Catholic).

~ver

Wicked Pilot · Post by **Wicked Pilot** » 2004-02-23 11:23pm

Goddamnit! Blue is my favorite color. Must it be associated with the ratfucking homophobes? Can't we give them red or something?

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-23 11:27pm

Wicked Pilot wrote:Goddamnit! Blue is my favorite color. Must it be associated with the ratfucking homophobes? Can't we give them red or something?

[Keeper of the Bridge of Death] WHAT is your favorite color? [/Keeper of the Bridge of Death]