Verdict in on The Passion

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-25 01:21am

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/ThePass ... t-1129941/

So far, scoring a 51% on the Tomatometer. Attack of the Clones had 60 percent.

Guess all those advance reviews were hype.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-25 01:22am

Wait. It doesn't come out until tomorrow.

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-02-25 01:25am

Rogue 9 wrote:Wait. It doesn't come out until tomorrow.

Rotten Tomatoes rates movies based on critical review. Movie critics get to see movies before they come out.

jenat-lai · Post by **jenat-lai** » 2004-02-25 01:29am

"Mel Gibson shows once again that he's skilled at depicting violence. But you'd be hard pressed to find evidence of 'tolerance, love and forgiveness' that the producer-director-co-writer insists he's trying to communicate."

is that a movie review? or some piss weak excuse for one?

Post by **fgalkin** » 2004-02-25 01:32am

I'm seeing with a bunch of freinds on Friday. I intend to give it the MST3K treatment (and cheer every time something bad happens to Jesus.

)

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Joe · Post by **Joe** » 2004-02-25 01:34am

jenat-lai wrote:"Mel Gibson shows once again that he's skilled at depicting violence. But you'd be hard pressed to find evidence of 'tolerance, love and forgiveness' that the producer-director-co-writer insists he's trying to communicate."

is that a movie review? or some piss weak excuse for one?

You gotta click on the links to read the full reviews.

Rogue 9 · Post by **Rogue 9** » 2004-02-25 01:34am

fgalkin wrote:I'm seeing with a bunch of freinds on Friday. I intend to give it the MST3K treatment (and cheer every time something bad happens to Jesus. )

Have a very nice day.
-fgalkin

Are you looking for forty lashes yourself, son? Because that's about what you'll get if you're in a theater with rabid fundies. (If its people more like me, I'd just sigh, get tired of it after a while, and signal for the usher.) Are you really that sadistic?

Oh wait. Horseman. Forgot. Never mind, just forget I said that. >_<

jairyn_1 · Post by **jairyn_1** » 2004-02-25 01:38am

Excuse my naïveté, but what exactly is MST3K?

Robert Treder · Post by **Robert Treder** » 2004-02-25 01:39am

jairyn_1 wrote:Excuse my naïveté, but what exactly is MST3K?

Mystery Science Theater 2000. It was a TV show which showed bad movies and had people comment on them humorously. It roxored.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-25 02:08am

While we're on the subject, what does roxored mean?

Psycho Smiley · Post by **Psycho Smiley** » 2004-02-25 02:33am

"leet" for rocked or kicked ass.

Jargon File wrote:Here is a brief guide to cracker and warez d00dz usage:

Misspell frequently. The substitutions phone → fone and freak → phreak are obligatory.

Always substitute ‘z’s for ‘s’s. (i.e. “codes” → “codez”). The substitution of ‘z’ for ‘s’ has evolved so that a ‘z’ is now systematically put at the end of words to denote an illegal or cracking connection. Examples : Appz, passwordz, passez, utilz, MP3z, distroz, pornz, sitez, gamez, crackz, serialz, downloadz, FTPz, etc.

Type random emphasis characters after a post line (i.e. “Hey Dudes!#!$#$!#!$”).

Use the emphatic ‘k’ prefix (“k-kool”, “k-rad”, “k-awesome”) frequently.

Abbreviate compulsively (“I got lotsa warez w/ docs”).

TYPE ALL IN CAPS LOCK, SO IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE YELLING ALL THE TIME.

The following letter substitutions are common:

a → 4
e → 3
f → ph
i → 1 or |
l → | or 1
m → |\/|
n → |\|
o → 0
s → 5
t → 7 or +

Thus, “elite” comes out “31337” and “all your base are belong to us” becomes “4ll y0ur b4s3 4r3 b3l0ng t0 us”, Other less common substitutions include:

b → 8
c → ( or k or |< or /<
d → <|
g → 6 or 9
h → |-|
k → |< or /<
p → |2
u → |_|
v → / or \/
w → // or \/\/
x → ><
y → '/

The word “cool” is spelled “kewl” and normally used ironically; when crackers really want to praise something they use the prefix “uber” (from German) which comes out “ub3r” or even “|_|83r”

These traits are similar to those of B1FF, who originated as a parody of naive BBS users; also of his latter-day equivalent Jeff K.. Occasionally, this sort of distortion may be used as heavy sarcasm or ironically by a real hacker, as in:

> I got X Windows running under Linux!

d00d! u R an 31337 hax0r

The words “hax0r” for “hacker” and “sux0r” for “sucks” are the most common references; more generally, to mark a term as cracker-speak one may add “0r” or “xor”. Examples:

“The nightly build is sux0r today.”
“Gotta go reboot those b0x0rz.”
“Man, I really ought to fix0r my .fetchmailrc.”
“Yeah, well he's a 'leet VMS operat0r now, so he's too good for us.”

ArchMage · Post by **ArchMage** » 2004-02-25 03:53am

L337 tends to be more common then 3l337

all moronic though. like ebonics for the internet.

Hethrir · Post by **Hethrir** » 2004-02-25 04:54am

Stofsk wrote:While we're on the subject, what does roxored mean?

rocks=rox=rox0r=r0x0r1z3d=r0x0r1z4710n

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2004-02-25 07:33pm

Equilibrium = 31%
Boondock Saints= 11%
Blair Witch Project= 85%

'nough said

phongn · Post by **phongn** » 2004-02-25 07:41pm

Metacritic has it holding at 50%.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-02-25 09:14pm

Regardless of where your religious beliefs lie, parents should think more than twice about taking little kidlets to see The Passion of the Christ. Two hours of gruesome, sadistic, stomach-turning and hard core graphically violent torture detached from any background information is not something to expose kids to, regardless of religion. Kids of a slightly older age may ask "Mommy? Why is Jesus a punching bag?" and then you can explain all the stuff about "dying for your sins," and inflict enough psychological terror on the kid to require a good twenty years of therapy. Or you can blame the Jews which, intended or not, is the message the film delivers as Gibson caps the piece with all the high priests standing at the foot of the cross, looking, ah, regretful.

Heheh, I realized this earlier today. It's especially funney when I realized that these aren't just normal easily tramatized children, they're the kind of children who have parent's who screen everything they watch and have never been exposed to violence. Tomorrow will be wonderous when I get to hear all of my friend's who had to explain everything to their siblings.

*Sits evily laughing upon a throne*

Seggybop · Post by **Seggybop** » 2004-02-25 09:59pm

That reminds me of why I think so many morons were brought to tears by the film. This audience is the exactly the type who've never in their entire lives seen a violent movie/tv show/anything like that. Suddenly, they're exposed to this. Having them watch 'Kill Bill' would probably be hilarious.

Andrew J. · Post by **Andrew J.** » 2004-02-25 10:07pm

I think I've seen it said here on this board a lot that if parents fairly applied their standards for kid-friendliness and lack of violence, they wouldn't let their children read the bible.

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-02-25 10:12pm

Seggybop wrote:That reminds me of why I think so many morons were brought to tears by the film. This audience is the exactly the type who've never in their entire lives seen a violent movie/tv show/anything like that. Suddenly, they're exposed to this. Having them watch 'Kill Bill' would probably be hilarious.

Funny though how "Kill Bill" brought up talks of being rated NC-17, while I've heard nothing of the sort about "Passion"

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-25 10:24pm

What is it's rating?

Post by **Gandalf** » 2004-02-25 10:26pm

Stofsk wrote:What is it's rating?

I think it's R here.

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-25 10:50pm

Gandalf wrote:
Stofsk wrote:What is it's rating?
I think it's R here.

Good-oh.

The Dark · Post by **The Dark** » 2004-02-25 10:56pm

I'll probably go in a few weeks once all the furor's died down. Actually, some of us here in the religion department are wanting to go see how much he pulls from other Gospels (IIRC, Gibson said it was based off Mark), and also see how he interprets certain things. The only concern of mine is the long (45 minute?) beating scene, since I'm a wee bit squeamish.

It's drivel, but it'll be fun to critique. The whole department's basically treating it like a car crash...gruesome, but it has to be seen to learn the lesson of what not to do.

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi · Post by **Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi** » 2004-02-25 10:57pm

justifier wrote:
Regardless of where your religious beliefs lie, parents should think more than twice about taking little kidlets to see The Passion of the Christ. Two hours of gruesome, sadistic, stomach-turning and hard core graphically violent torture detached from any background information is not something to expose kids to, regardless of religion. Kids of a slightly older age may ask "Mommy? Why is Jesus a punching bag?" and then you can explain all the stuff about "dying for your sins," and inflict enough psychological terror on the kid to require a good twenty years of therapy. Or you can blame the Jews which, intended or not, is the message the film delivers as Gibson caps the piece with all the high priests standing at the foot of the cross, looking, ah, regretful.

Heheh, I realized this earlier today. It's especially funney when I realized that these aren't just normal easily tramatized children, they're the kind of children who have parent's who screen everything they watch and have never been exposed to violence. Tomorrow will be wonderous when I get to hear all of my friend's who had to explain everything to their siblings.

*Sits evily laughing upon a throne*

Would it be ironic if some of the people who took their kids to see it were up in arms over Janet Jackson't halftime stunt?

justifier · Post by **justifier** » 2004-02-25 11:04pm

Asst. Asst. Lt. Cmdr. Smi wrote:
justifier wrote:
Regardless of where your religious beliefs lie, parents should think more than twice about taking little kidlets to see The Passion of the Christ. Two hours of gruesome, sadistic, stomach-turning and hard core graphically violent torture detached from any background information is not something to expose kids to, regardless of religion. Kids of a slightly older age may ask "Mommy? Why is Jesus a punching bag?" and then you can explain all the stuff about "dying for your sins," and inflict enough psychological terror on the kid to require a good twenty years of therapy. Or you can blame the Jews which, intended or not, is the message the film delivers as Gibson caps the piece with all the high priests standing at the foot of the cross, looking, ah, regretful.

Heheh, I realized this earlier today. It's especially funney when I realized that these aren't just normal easily tramatized children, they're the kind of children who have parent's who screen everything they watch and have never been exposed to violence. Tomorrow will be wonderous when I get to hear all of my friend's who had to explain everything to their siblings.

*Sits evily laughing upon a throne*
Would it be ironic if some of the people who took their kids to see it were up in arms over Janet Jackson't halftime stunt?

Hell most of the people I know had parents up in arms of Harry Potter

*Grins at the thought of tortured innocent minds*