Your top three movie villains of all time...

Post by **Lagmonster** » 2004-02-26 10:15am

Hypnotoad wrote:If you are going to include villians from video games, you have to put SHODAN in their somewhere.

SHODAN was a lightweight next to the insane, genocidal, rearrange-the-face-of-reality, nuke-everyone, kill-little-kids, monument-to-destruction-and-chaos Kefka. The only fictional character I can think of more willing to damn the entire plane of reality to decay and suffering and death than Kefka was Kain from the Legacy of Kain series. Kefka was just nuts, but Kain knew full well that he was dooming everything to save his own skin.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-02-26 11:04am

Godzilla 2002 -- He's just bad and nasty.

Vermithrax -- Dragonslayer

Thulsa Doom - Conan the Barbarian

honorable mention: Clarence Bodaker the Third Robocop, Dick Jones Robocop, Cohagen Total Recall, the Predator Predator, the Jackal The Jackal (I really wanted him to fufill his contract and live happilly ever after on the $70 million).

Solauren · Post by **Solauren** » 2004-02-26 11:10am

Gabriel from Password: Swordfish

Luzifer's right hand · Post by **Luzifer's right hand** » 2004-02-26 11:15am

1. Keyzer Soze
2. Goldfinger
3. Hannibal Lecter

Robert Walper · Post by **Robert Walper** » 2004-02-26 12:06pm

Some really good choices in my opinion:

Choice #1 wrote: The two mountain men. Bill Mckinney, Herbert "Cowboy" Coward. "Deliverance" (1972)

"Now let's you just drop them pants." Undeniably the most terrifying words ever spoken on celluloid, that chilling command is delivered by Coward. But it's actually McKinney-a bona fide thespian trained at the actors studio-who cornholes squealing weekend warrior Ned Beattty in what is known by camping-trip-fearing guys everywhere simply as "the scene". Toothless, murderous hilbilly rapists? You bet your soiled overalls they're number one!

Choice #2 wrote: The Terminator. Arnold Schwarzennegger. "The Terminator" (1984)

Arnold doesn't need and high-tech wizardy to go upside your head. He's mean enough to beat your ass with a bag of oranges(fruity, yet painful). Plus, he hunts people down with a phone book, combining the terror of a robotic serial killer with the persistence of a telemarketer. That's scary.

Choice #3 wrote: The Predator. Kevin Peter Hall. "Predator" (1987)

He's completely invisible, and he's skinning folks and hanging em from trees. That's bad enough. But what's the scariest is the fact that this is just a sport to him. You're desperately clawing at his hideous face, trying to stay alive, and he's thinking to himself, After this last one, maybe I'll meet Frank over at the club for a couple of drinks.

Honorable mention #1 wrote: Bill Lumbergh. Gary Cole. "Office Space" (1999)

An unholy mix of Gordon Gekko, Leona Helmsley and that executive with that pointy hair from "Dilbert". As an impressively patronizing boss, Lumbergh utters what could very well be the most frightening line in recent cinematic memory: "I'm going to have to go ahead and ask you to come in on Sunday too..."

Honorable Mention #2 wrote: The Shark. Robert A. Mattey (creator). "Jaws" (1975)

Yes, it was eventually beaten by a lumpy scientist, a jittery cop and a drunken sailor. But until it was blown into a chum cloud, the deep sea terror dined on scuba divers, frolicking children and skinny-dippers. Spielberg named the beast Bruce, after his lawyer.

SoX · Post by **SoX** » 2004-02-26 12:13pm

1. Darth Vader
2. Agent Smith
3. Piter de Vried (mainly coz im reading Dune atm, but the one from the Lynch Film.)

Beaker · Post by **Beaker** » 2004-02-26 01:22pm

Robert Treder wrote:
Gandalf wrote:
Robert Treder wrote:Uh, Beaker, Jonathan Harris didn't play Dr. Zachary Smith in any movies, Gary Oldman did. Unless you want this to be favorite movie or TV villains.
Gary Oldman did a good Dr. Smith though.
I agree very much so, but Beaker posted a pic of Jonathan Harris.

The original pilot episode in 1965 was feature length and therefore qualifies as a film...and Gary Oldman was not a patch on Harris

Lord Pounder · Post by **Lord Pounder** » 2004-02-26 02:03pm

1. The Joker from the 1st Batman movie.

2. The Alien Queen from Aliens.

3. Pachino in the Devils Advocate.

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-02-26 04:53pm

Darth_Zod wrote:i'm not really sure i'd classify bester as a real villain . . . . Morden was actively working to derail things for everybody not with the Shadows, while Bester was more or less just looking to cover his own ass.

Is Morden really a villain? Depends on your point of view. Because by Season 4 of the series, it's not quite clear who the villain is anymore.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-02-26 04:54pm

you've got a point. and all Morden really did was help people, if you think about it. . . .

Post by **Dalton** » 2004-02-26 04:55pm

Darth_Zod wrote:you've got a point. and all Morden really did was help people, if you think about it. . . .

Exactly. You'll notice that we've never seen Morden actually do anything evil...

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-02-26 04:56pm

Darth Wong wrote:3. Tony Montana (Scarface)

No doubt Tony was a bad, bad man. But he was really the protanganist of that movie.

General Zod · Post by **General Zod** » 2004-02-26 04:56pm

Dalton wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote:you've got a point. and all Morden really did was help people, if you think about it. . . .
Exactly. You'll notice that we've never seen Morden actually do anything evil...

not directly, no. but his help usually wound up eventually ruining the lives around him that he helped to affect in some form or another.

Shaidar Haran · Post by **Shaidar Haran** » 2004-02-26 04:59pm

My list:

1) Darth Vader

2) Agent Smith

3) Hannibal Lecter

Sam Or I · Post by **Sam Or I** » 2004-02-26 05:47pm

[quote="Luzifer's right hand"]1. Keyzer Soze
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I agree. Even Vader could not kill his own son in cold blood.

Samuel Jacksons character in "Unbreakable".

And Hannibal Lecter (How can you not like him)

Runners up include: (in no order)
Two Face
Grand Admiral Thrawn
Vader
Palpitine
Khan
Gary Oldmans character in the Professional
Griffith
Denzel Washington in Training Day

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-02-26 05:51pm

Dalton wrote: Exactly. You'll notice that we've never seen Morden actually do anything evil...

Except for paying that guy to kill Londo's lover with the intention that Londo would think it was Refa who had it done.

In later eps it also looked like he bribed his way onto B5 but then killed the guy he was paying and took the payment back.

Montcalm · Post by **Montcalm** » 2004-02-26 05:56pm

Tsyroc wrote:
Dalton wrote: Exactly. You'll notice that we've never seen Morden actually do anything evil...
In later eps it also looked like he bribed his way onto B5 but then killed the guy he was paying and took the payment back.

In that case its not like he killed someone important,and did he do the killing if you recall there were always two shadows with him at all time.

Tsyroc · Post by **Tsyroc** » 2004-02-26 06:01pm

Montcalm wrote: In that case its not like he killed someone important,and did he do the killing if you recall there were always two shadows with him at all time.

If you go by some of the books it looks like Morden may have been mentally controlled by the Shadows to a certain extent. I think he still voluntarilly entered their service and often chose questionable paths all on his own but it seems pretty clear that when necessary the Shadows can have heavy influence on him.

Mlenk · Post by **Mlenk** » 2004-02-27 12:13am

Darth Vader
Tony Montona
Hannibal Lecter

Perinquus · Post by **Perinquus** » 2004-02-27 01:42am

Kaiser Soze

The Dane, from "Miller's Crossing"

Michael Corleone, from "The Godfather, Part II"

Master of Ossus · Post by **Master of Ossus** » 2004-02-27 01:54am

1. Vader.
2. Corleone.
3. Colonel Kurtz

Honorable Mention: Commandant Goethe

Stofsk · Post by **Stofsk** » 2004-02-27 02:00am

Dalton wrote:
Darth_Zod wrote:you've got a point. and all Morden really did was help people, if you think about it. . . .
Exactly. You'll notice that we've never seen Morden actually do anything evil...

Assassinating Londo's chick, lying about it to Londo - to his face - all so he can manipulate him into rejoining the Shadows, with one indirect result of which ends up costing Refa his life (Londo killed him under the impression he was responsible for his chick's death, Refa deserved to die surely - but he was innocent of that crime).

Also, we never see Morden do it, this is true - but that doesn't matter. Is the mob boss who orders a hit on someone less evil than the hitman? The fact of the matter is Morden is an evil bastard. He didn't help anyone, not in the slightest - his "help" bombed Narn to the stoneage, his "help" allowed the Centauri to attack bordering League worlds like the Drazi and Pak'ma'ra, his "help" tore up the Centauri capital when everyone said "Fuck this shit, let's a burn the Centauri!" in season 5...